I'm thinking about getting a Nuvi 3790T and retiring my Nuvi 660 because by the time I update the maps on the unit and replace the internal battery, I will have paid for nearly half of the 3790T. So my question is, has anyone heard anything good or bad about the new unit?
You may want to do a search of this site for 3790T as there are a couple of threads already on this topic.
They will not be available until probably August in the US.
There is a hands on review at http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/articles.asp?id=277.
Thanks! I'll check it out ..I saw a few reviews online but wanted to know if anyone here had anymore information. In addition, Amazon says June 10th as the ship date.
Other online GPS stores are also reporting mid-June deliveries.
Garmin has posted a manual for the device at:
Edit on 6/3/2010: Amazon has now moved shipping to a more specific date of July 10, 2010.
Garmin shipped the 3790T to it's North American dealers on Monday, June 21. They should be showing up for purchase very soon.
GPScity.com is showing the 3790T as shipping by 6/24/10. Amazon is still showing July 10. MegaGPS is showing "early July". I am hoping that will change soon given this new information and confirmation that at least one seller is shipping.
still waiting patiently
It has a built-in speaker.
I will be getting mine tomorrow from GPScity... Will report back.
Can't wait to get some feedback from one of the members on the 3790.The reviews looks good.
It seems that all the major GPS sites now have the 3790T in stock and are shipping. I am waiting for mine which shipped yesterday but will take until next Thursday to reach me. I guess they are sending it via pack mule.
Clint, check out this link that takes you to Amazon. Near the top of the listing, you will see (2 customer reviews). Of the 2 current reviews posted, it does not look like Garmin has done much testing on the 3790T. Both reviews are from three days ago, and the last one also has a link to You Tube that shows how messed up the unit is at voice commands.
Buyer beware once again.
Wouldn't put much faith in those 2 reviews. The first one is mainly complaining about the current lack of support for ecoRoutes HD which 99 out of 100 people wouldn't care about anyway. The Routing Transfer from Mapsource issue is well known and will be corrected in the first firmware update.
The second review is from a person that either has the worst luck in the world or knows nothing at all about a Garmin GPS. Some of the comments left by Amazon readers also question whether this guy actually has a 3790T. I suspect that he does but he looks like a bit of "cluts" in those videos
You'll get a lot better idea about how well these units work, or don't work, from real users like the folks from Europe that have posted at http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=134671
The Routing Transfer from Mapsource issue is well known and will be corrected in the first firmware update.
ah yes. Garmin's favorite quote - "It will be fixed in the next firmware update"
"We have had no other reports of that problem.", usually given after another user has been given the favorite quote stated by GadgetGuy2008.
Well I have jad my Nuvi 3790 for acouple of days now, and I must say it is a real nice unit.
The major problem I have is the traffic reception is horrible. I have yet to get a solid signal in area where my other nuvi's with the free traffic perform stellar.
I don't know if it is a software glitch or a problem with the new traffic power cord. The 3790 uses a new GTM 35 power cable. I tried switching it with my GTM 25 from my nuvi 1490 but it is not compatible.
I've been trying to get a hold of Garmin, but we all know what that's like. When I do I'm sure I'll get Garmins favorite quotes and have to wait for a solution.
The good thing is I have 60 days to return this unit.
The power cord contains the FM antenna. If you can move the cord to different places in your car by stretching it out in different directions it may help. Also, for me, I have much worse FM reception where I live on the outskirts of Philadelphia this time of year. My traffic reception also suffers this time of year until I get much closer to the city. I found that if I string the power cord over my rear view mirror it helps but that is not a great solution. Reception for both my radio and GPS traffic improve as we get away from the summer solstice.
We were coming up on Atlanta Sunday thoroughly stuck in traffic. My new 3760 showed no traffic reception at all. I pulled out my old 755T and turned it on. I didn't even place it close to the windshield and had full traffic updating. I am disappointed with the traffic reception but am not at all disappointed with about anything else on the Nuvi 3760T.
Not may experience. Took the 3790T out for the first time today and got very good traffic reception. At least as good as what I get on the Nuvi 1490.
I don't even have the traffic receiver stretched out. In fact it is tied up the same way it came in the box.
... the last one also has a link to You Tube that shows how messed up the unit is at voice commands.
This is actually humorous. I heard it said once that the definition of insanity is to repeat the same action over and over, expecting a different result. "Hmm, it doesn't seem to recognize the command 'Exit'." Try saying it again. And again. And again. And.....
Maybe he thinks it will learn it if he says it often enough.
> The power cord contains the FM antenna. If you can move the cord to different places in your car by stretching it out in different directions it may help.
You can also try getting an extension cord from Radio Shack or equivalent. That should allow you even more flexibility in positioning the FM receiver. I too have trouble with FM reception in my car (couldn't seem to use MSN Direct that well at all, once upon a time), but not in my wife's car.
> by the time I update the maps on the unit and replace the internal battery, I will have paid for nearly half of the 3790T.
On the other hand, you can save 50% by changing the battery and updating your maps! (grin) I've not tried to change the battery myself, though I have done it on a UPS once. Wasn't too big of a deal, but I admit no experience with the Garmin... Well, I'd be tempted by getting a new GPS, too.
I recently purchased a 3790T and have nothing but pure praise for the extremely small footprint it occupies. Its has a glass front on it, instead of the usual Garmin plastic screen. With my other Garmin, I could use a stylus to activate the screen, with the glass on the 3790T it does not seen to want to accept the stylus. I have had absolutely no problem whatsoever in using the voice prompts. Iam still experimenting with this unit, so I do not have a great deal more to report on. So far I am impressed, time will tell? Roboni
Could you comment on the dual speakers? How clear does it sound and tell us about the volume levels please. Have you had any other Garmins units that you can compare it to?
I have bought two 3790T's. So far so good. The latest maps 2010/2011 are great. Only bug so far. In the line Proximity Points. I wanted to uncheck the Garmin Radar warning file and use my own which I had previously uploaded. However, if you hit the SAVE button te thing will default to the Garmin file. If you just hit cancel after you checked your own file unchecking Garmin's it will work and keep the new setting. I have not yet checked the Voice feature.
The aux speaker is in the holder of the gps. It can't be any larger than an inch in diameter, however it is a high quality speaker and there is little if any distortion. However, the speaker output would face the windshield of the vehicle, I can hear it with no problem. Volume levels are adequate, not great but they can be heard without straining your hearing. Speaking commands to the unit is very directional, so the unit should be mounted relatively close, windshield or front of dash is fine. Voice commands are somewhat limited as compared with other Garmin voice units. However it does have what is needed and keep in mind it is also touch activated. The aesthetics are beautiful in my opinion and it has that shinny, black piano finish. The screen can be vertical or horizontal, depending on its position... Okay, if anyone needs more information, please contact me. Inexpensive it is not but in all consumer electronics eventually it will come down in price... Cya
I have had a GPS since 2004. First a StreetPilot, then a nüvi 650 with an added traffic receiver. Today I got the 3790t have been thoroughly impressed. The high screen resolution and fast graphics make for a whole new experience. The addition of the terrain map and intelligent auto-zooming to the standard Garmin map display add a lot of functionality. The screen is much clearer and less bothered by sunlight than the 650.
I have an iPhone 4 and the 3790T gives the same feeling of high quality design. The 3790 paired easily with the iPhone. Receiving calls was easy and with good sound quality. The additional mount speaker allows the unit to function quite well as a speakerphone. The Voice Command did not work so well for dialing out as there was no confirmation of who it was dialing, and sometimes it would start playing an iPod song instead of dialing anyone. Voice Command for navigation worked very well. It responded to all my commands without a hitch.
I imported my poi.gpi and current.gpx file from the 650 with no problem. Favorites and Extras worked as expected.
I was very impressed with the traffic reception. I rarely got traffic info on my GTM-20 in my far suburban location outside Philadelphia. This unit received the traffic info not only quickly but in much more detail and usability. The antenna is in the black plastic housing on the cord near the GPS end. I expect that housing should be kept higher in the car if possible to aid reception.
This is an expensive GPS considering that so many units are available for well under $200 but the 3790 is the state of the art right now. I think the 3790 will create new expectations of how a GPS should look and perform. I am pleased with my purchase so far. It may have been pricey but I think I got what I paid for.
I've owned the 3790 for more than a week and I have to say the display is awesome, bright and clear. It shows the upcoming street on the green bar and it has the "extra" information on the screen similar to the 1490t. It's expensive but it's a gem regarding it's looks. So far so good. Having the speaker and the power connected to the bracket is a blessing since on my 1490t I have to disconnect the power from the unit.The external speaker is loud. Still doesn't have the avoiding certain roads like the 800 series but it's a great piece of engineering.
A day after getting the 3790T I took a trip from Philadelphia to Maine over the Independence Day weekend. The only problem I encountered was using the trip planner. It suggested I go through some roads near the George Washington Bridge in NYC that I knew from past experience was not a a good idea on a holiday weekend. So I stopped the planner and went my usual way over the Tappan Zee Bridge. The problem I ran into was that when I restarted the trip planner in Connecticut the GPS wanted me to backtrack to an earlier waypoint I programmed. There seemed to be no way to ignore it. I ended up just plugging in Portland, Maine as the destination and going from there.
The other bigger problem I have encountered is that my POIs are not loading. I use the POI Loader, get a success message, and even see the large 15MB poi.gpi on the GPS when mounted on my computer. But when I try to open Extras it says they are not loaded. I have sent an e-mail support request but have received no reply for the past week. I also called phone support. They asked me to e-mail my poi.gpi file, which I did last Wednesday, but have received no response on that either.
My problem may be unique as I can find no other similar complaint on the forums here or on other GPS sites.
If that problem can be resolved I will be very happy as I am very pleased with the performance, display, traffic, Voice Command, and Bluetooth phone connection.
wow, another new one? awesome toy to check out based on the reviews!
I received an email today from Amazon that they have the new Garmin 3790T in stock and ready to ship now.
Looks like a heck of a nice unit and some nice features.
I was able to get my POI folder to load and display on the 3790T by doing a master reset:
1. Start with the unit turned OFF and unplugged from power
2. Power ON the device
3. When the copyright screen appears press and hold the lower right hand corner of the touchscreen
4. Remove your finger from the touchscreen when a message appears that says Erase all user data?
5. Touch YES
It took several attempts to get the master reset dialog to appear. After resetting I went back to POI Loader and reinstalled my POIs. After restarting the nüvi the POIs appeared. However, when I tried to modify my computer's POI folder and reload, the nüvi went back to saying I had no Extras. It seems that I can only load POIs if I am willing to erase all user settings and files each time.
It should be noted that the 3790 (only this model was tested) has an issue with *Win7 64-bit* when writing files to the nuvi drive. When certain files are copied to the 3790 (as far as I tested, poi.gpi and temp.gpx; my POIs and favorites file from my other units) and the nuvi is *safely removed* using the task bar icon, the files mentioned above are not actually written to the nuvi drive even though Windows Explorer shows them as being copied over. If you then disconnect the nuvi drive from the PC and then reconnect it, you'll see that the files were not actually transferred over at all. I was trying for hours to transfer my POIs and favorites over to the 3790 with no success.
I feel this is a *Win7 64-bit* issue and it's cacheing of writes to the nuvi drive. Win XP (x86) does NOT exhibit this behavior. The Win7 cache settings for the nuvi under Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Computer Management/Storage/Disk Management when it's connected is also not changeable. It's unknown for certain if this is a 37xx series issue or if the issue is with Win7 64-bit. It may be that the file size copied over makes a difference since I had no issue with copying the larger vehicles files and other larger files over...it almost seems as if *small files below a certain size* are the ones not being copied over. My temp.gpx is 24k while my poi.gpi is under 500k.
There is a solution however if you're experiencing this...after the copying of files is finished, do *not* safely disconnect the nuvi from the PC...just disconnect it from the cable. Yes, it seems very incorrect/odd after safely disconnecting devices after so many years but this does actually solve the problem. After doing so, I had no more issues.
This may be the root of why some are not seeing their POIs or favorites on the unit after they have copied them over from the PC.
I am currently unable to test this or any other issues since the unit is no longer in my possession.
brentrn, or you could just have POIloader save to "Custom Folder (Advanced)" and save the poi.gpi file to your PC. Then copy the file from the computer to the POI directory on the Nuvi or the MicroSD card.
Doing it this way, at least until Garmin figures out what's wrong, will work fine and you'll get your POI's permanently under Extra's - Custom POIs with out having to reset the Nuvi.
I copied my temp.gpx and several .gpi files from my PC to the 3790T. Never had your problem but on the other hand I just pulled the cable out of the Nuvi which would tend to confirm your workaround.
Using Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
Try to copy the same files (especially the smaller temp.gpx) over again to the nuvi except this time, safely disconnect the nuvi from the task bar, then unplug it...see if the files are there when you reconnect the nuvi to the PC.
My temp.gpx file is to big for your test so I created a small 5Mb gpx file and transfered it. Safely Removed the Nuvi and then reconnected it and my gpx file appears in the GPX folder.
That was a great idea but, sadly, it did not work. Only a master reset will allow a functioning POI.gpi.
That was a great idea but, sadly, it did not work. Only a master reset will allow a functioning POI.gpi.
If you're running Win 7 64-bit (or even 32-bit as one user reported this problem with the 32-bit version as well), try copying the file from Windows Explorer to the nuvi but do *not* safely disconnect the nuvi from the taskbar and then unplug it. Instead, just unplug the nuvi after the file copies over. Don't use the safely eject icon on the task bar before unplugging.
See my post regarding this issue above.
I use a Mac but I could try the same thing. Pulling the USB of any flash drive with first ejecting gives a dire warning that the drive could be corrupted.
If the problem exists with your unit using a Mac, then it would seem to be 37xx series unit specific rather than a Win7 issue.
As I stated before though, I had no file transfer issues when using WinXP 32-bit...this is an odd one
My POIs had no problem transfering to the new 3790T. I also use the same POIs on my 1355T. The problem that I am having is that some of the POI icons will display but most won't (Red light traffic cameras, stores, etc.) They all display on the 1355T. There is no rhyme or reason for what displays and what doesn't. Using POI Loader - I have loaded them by their individual group name (Auto, Bank, etc.) I then loaded them so that they are all under poi.gpi - same results. Anyone have the same problem and if you did or don't what did you do to load the pois?
The only icons I see on the 3790 are my Favorites. I don't think I've seen a Custom POI at any time other than the Red Light and Speed Camera warning icons, which pop up as expected.
I see some of my custom POI Icons but not all. When driving I will come up to a Redlight Camera location and it is announced by the wave file I have for it but the icon will not appear. This happens with the majority of my custom POIs, when approaching the area they are announced but no Icon. I have compared the Icons that do appear with the ones that don't and there are no differences. This is a real poser trying to figure out, I is with the 3790T as the same custom Pois all appear on my other nuvis.
either of you have posted about the 3790T. Do you have any new things to relay to us about its performance/problems/operation ?
I'm giving it some thought about replacing my 1490T with the 3790T.
Your comments would be greatly appreciated.
I experience the same weirdness with Custom POIs/Icons. The only icon I've seen so far is Target Stores and not for all of the Targets I pass. I get the alert for some others, but not all. I spoke to a Garmin rep. about this and she said that custom POIs, being a third party product, can behave differently on different nuvis. So, therefore she said it's not a problem with the 3790. All the POI files I've loaded on the 3790 are exactly the same as on my 885 where they work perfectly.
Just be patient and it will pay off. Never buy just released Garmin (and I think you know that already) you will save not your money only...but lots of headaches too. I made the same mistake buying 765T, what a piece of crap...now after 1 and half year after ver. 4.0 software update it finally works...
I made the same mistake buying 765T, what a piece of crap...now after 1 and half year after ver. 4.0 software update it finally works...
I am interested in the range of feelings about the 765T. I have this unit and have been quite satisfied. My previous GPS was from a German company called Becker. This unit satisfied my needs but did not offer any way to update maps - so became it became so out of date I opted for a Garmin 765T. I say this only to say that I am not comparing a Garmin unit to a Garmin unit which I assume is what many others are doing.
Could there be a difference between 765T units bought in the US versus those bought in Canada? I have noticed that many of thise who hate the unit are from Canada.
Not thrilled with the 3790T. Looks nicer and is lighter weight, but not a great unit. Voice commands is awful. You can try pronouncing the name slowly, quickly, loudly or softly and it gives you choices nothing like you're looking for. Tried to get it to register "Chicago" as the city with repeated failures. Then out of frustration used Chee ka goo and it got it right. Unbeliveable. Also has trouble syncing POI factory redlights with garmin redlights and as far as I can tell, it does not use the mp3 voice so you just hear, or don't hear, the tone.
I bet your Becker GPS was dependable, didn't brick on you and the one worked as advertised... that's not true with GARMIN...
I don't know, for how long you own your 765T and how you use the one, if it bricked on you, when you depended on it the most and if you had to contact tech. support numerous times just to get it goin'... or did you have to replace a few 765T's just because even they couldn't fix it remotely?
Beside that some features don't work in Canada at all... and ...you say that mostly Canadians are "bitching" for no aparrent reason??? Sounds like it is inappropriate to expect the device to work the way as advertised!!!
Didn't mean to set you off. Evidently you have had a bad experience with Garmin.
I did not use the word "bitching" as you seem to imply. I simply asked if there "could" be a difference in the units. This might take the form of maps or firmware or combinations thereof because of difference in when and/or where units were manufactured.
If differences were found, it would make it easier to make a more informed judgment about units.
I do think that units ought to perform as advertised. What I was trying to get at is whether what people "thought" was advertised is indeed what was advertised. For example, my 765T has lifetime traffic. I knew when I bought the unit that "traffic" was not available where I live - although I hope that someday it will be. The Garmin website had links to take me to the Navteq traffic coverage map and so I knew that I would not have traffic in my area. Someone else might have bought a similar unit based only on the fact that there was lifetime traffic and then be mad because there was not traffic facilities in their area.
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