California allows windshield mounts effective 1/1/09
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SB 1567 just signed by governor will be effective 01/01/2009 allows limited use of gps windshield mount.
SB 1567, Oropeza. Windshield: GPS device.
Existing law prohibits any person, except as specified, from driving any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or upon the vehicle that
obstructs or reduces the driver's clear view through the windshield or side windows.
This bill would additionally exempt from these provisions a portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be mounted in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver or in a 5-inch square in the lower corner of the
windshield nearest to the driver, if specified conditions are met.
The "specified conditions" in the code are "if the system is used only for door-to-door navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated and outside of an airbag deployment zone."
What is meant by that? I researched the analysis in committee analysis and found the following:
3.Driver distraction . Some GPS devices provide more than just a map with a symbol showing the vehicle's movement. Some stream videos or allow a driver to input a request for information on the location of certain attractions, such as the nearest post office. Thus, GPS devices offer a much greater distraction than any item that California law now permits to be affixed to a vehicle windshield. In response to this concern, the author will offer an amendment in committee to conform this bill to the existing requirement that video screens displaying a television broadcast or video signal that produces entertainment or business applications must be placed behind the front seat (i.e., out of the driver's field of vision).
The bill passed the State Senate 38-1 and the assembly 75-0.
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RT
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Some rationality returning?
While I hesitate to use "rational" and "Sacramento" in the same sentence, there might be a little... Our Governator also vetoed a bill that would have made mylar balloons illegal...
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Nicely done Governator... I
Nicely done Governator... I never understood why it was unsafe to have your GPS mounted on the Windshield anyways!
Previous discussion thread on topic
There was a previous thread on this subject that I couldn't find before I started the new thread. In it some people discuss that even touching the screen would be a violation as it can only be used for "door to door" navigation.
I don't find this in the published analysis of the bills. The only specific prohibited use mentioned in the bill analysis related to running videos on the screen, something disallowed by other sections.
The section amended specifically covers where a GPS can be mounted on the windshield. You can't use this section to cite someone for touching their screen while driving. This law doesn't cover that. You could use a law already on the books covering "distracted driving."
TomTom built in and Garmin Nuvi 1490T. Eastern Iowa, formerly Southern California "You can check out any time you like...but you can never leave."
What's more distracting?
So let's run down the CA list:
GPS approved.
Cell phone banned.
Pets approved? Maybe they are afraid they might be sued if someone has a seeing eyed dog?
http://www.ktvu.com/automotive/17580057/detail.html
geez
So let's run down the CA list:
GPS approved.
Cell phone banned.
Pets approved? Maybe they are afraid they might be sued if someone has a seeing eyed dog?
http://www.ktvu.com/automotive/17580057/detail.html
I am sure glad, most of the nuts have left other states and set up camp in California and now have turned in to do-gooders and know exactly whats good for you folks out there on the left coast.
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Hmmm, so (Before they made
Hmmm, so (Before they made it legal) if it's attached to my windshield it's illegal, but if it's stuck on top of my dash it's OK?
Nuvi260
I saw one of my friends tied
I saw one of my friends tied his gps on steering wheel!
hiahia
Dash works for me
I' so used to it being dash mounted that allowing it to be on the windshield again doesn't matter anymore. I do want to ask the group;
Do you prefer it mounted to your left where the dash meets the door, or center, under the rearview? I prefer the center and am probably too comfortable to switch now.
Up on your way, hit the open road, there is magic at your fingers......
not for me
I' so used to it being dash mounted that allowing it to be on the windshield again doesn't matter anymore. I do want to ask the group;
Do you prefer it mounted to your left where the dash meets the door, or center, under the rearview? I prefer the center and am probably too comfortable to switch now.
never tried it since it was illegal.
my windshield is so sloped that I prob couldn't even reach it if it was there in the lower 5x5" area
Bottom Left Side of Glass...
I' so used to it being dash mounted that allowing it to be on the windshield again doesn't matter anymore. I do want to ask the group;
Do you prefer it mounted to your left where the dash meets the door, or center, under the rearview? I prefer the center and am probably too comfortable to switch now.
I like it at the driver door, near the bottom corner of the glass. It seems more natural to glance at, sort of like glancing at your left rear view mirror while driving. And yes...I shouldn't of drove with it there...I use a bean bag now. I don't know if I'll go back to using the glass though...
CA change
I' so used to it being dash mounted that allowing it to be on the windshield again doesn't matter anymore. I do want to ask the group;
Do you prefer it mounted to your left where the dash meets the door, or center, under the rearview? I prefer the center and am probably too comfortable to switch now.
I will be driving CA north to south in December. I am glad they approved the windshield mount.
On short trips around town I use the friction mount. Easier to put away when out of the car.
On longer trips I prefer the windshield mount (especially in my F350 with RV). My preference is in the middle under the rear view mirror so my co-pilot can view if necessary. I tried it next to the door and found it uncomfortable.
I guess I thought it was ok
and I routinely drive with my n360 just below and to the left of my rearview mirror. It's on a suction cup mount and I cannot imagine trying to divert my eyes from the road to look into one of the far corners. So far, I've not been cited, but I'm very careful not to get pulled over anyway.
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even stickers ? Anyway i had mine broken. They seem to love my GPS. Do they even know how much a windshield replacement is nowadays ? I swear i hate thieves.
Don't Worry
With budget cuts in CA there will be less police to enforce the law and more felons on the street to steal you GPS.
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Mounted Where?
I' so used to it being dash mounted that allowing it to be on the windshield again doesn't matter anymore. I do want to ask the group;
Do you prefer it mounted to your left where the dash meets the door, or center, under the rearview? I prefer the center and am probably too comfortable to switch now.
bottom left of the windshield works best for me in a Jetta. Easy to see but doesn't block direct line of sight