What is MapSource?

 

This might be a crazy question but exactly what is MapSource and what does it do? When I bought my GPS the 2008 US Map was already on my Nuvi 780. I did not have to download anything. I know recently found out I can get the 2009 US Map for free so I'm working with Garmin customer support to get my free download since I bought my gps recently.

But my question is what is MapSource that everyone is referring to and what do you do with it? Is it just the same map that is on your gps or something? Can someone please explain this to me so I know what is going on. I think that I'm missing out on something important as far as the features that go with my Nuvi 780.

Thanks!

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You can force it to load...

karl1coleman wrote:

I have the 2009 update but MapSource says it can't find any MapSource products and exits. This is with the unit connected to the computer.

Using regedit in windows, I hesitate to go here but if you know how, these folders should be in the registry and you can add them if they aren't...
HKey_LOCAL_MACHINE,
SOFTWARE,
Garmin,
Mapsource,
FamiliesNT,
City Navigator North America NT 2009

It’s a situation where MapSource won't load if it doesn't see the above folders or a similar set of folders and the update won't load the maps unless MapSource is installed.

If you do the above, remove the City Navigator North America NT 2009 folder you added prior to running MapSource, and you will have to run the 2009 update again....

I'm not recommending you do this btw....

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I already updated my 760 on

I already updated my 760 on my Mac but I have Windows on my Mac as well. Does anyone know if I have to reinstall the 2009 map on my 760 using Windows in order to use Mapsource?
I tried to use Mapsource but it said I had no products installed.
I don't like Bobcat, I'd rather keep all my GPS stuff on the PC side.

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I recently uninstalled all of my Garmin maps

neonwater wrote:

I already updated my 760 on my Mac but I have Windows on my Mac as well. Does anyone know if I have to reinstall the 2009 map on my 760 using Windows in order to use Mapsource?
I tried to use Mapsource but it said I had no products installed.
I don't like Bobcat, I'd rather keep all my GPS stuff on the PC side.

and MapSource as well. I won't go into why but upon reinstalling it I had to reinstall 2009 to get it recognized by MapSource. It reinstalled the update on my 760 as well...

I have read since then that if you access the disk, and in windows>msi> run CNNANT2009Update_ENU.msi it will install MapSource and 2009NT. I haven’t done it but it’s worth a try…..

Edit: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/12869

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Ok, HERE............

Here is a cut and paste from and old MM post explaining how to get mapsource via a sort of backdoor method.

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You can get MapSource without the maps for free by downloading the Garmin Training Center and updating the MapSource version.

Step 1:
Download and Install "Garmin Training Center"
http://www8.garmin.com/support/collection.jsp?product=999-99...

Step 2:
Download and Install the latest Mapsource Update
http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=209

It should be noted that the nuvi line does not come with MapSource. As has been noted, many people have gotten it for free from Garmin by politely asking and stating that they wish to use it to "manage their favorites".
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Alternately you can CALL Garmin and ask them to send it to you. I must have 3 or 4 copies of it because they provide it for free with the mapping hand held units. CALL Garmin at 1-800-800-1020 and ask them nicely to send it to you.

I've used iMapsource for years to create custom routes to send to my GPS when traveling to Montana and other places. My wife likes to take alternate routes so we see different things. I simply make various waypoints (via points for automotive oriented folks) and then place them in the route in the order I want to hit them. It works GREAT. I then send the completed route to my GPS. Creating a route on the computer is MUCH easier than creating one on the GPS. I create it on the full screen map rather than on some little bitty screen. Mapsource is very nice to have.

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Alternatively you can see the post above yours….

neonwater wrote:

I already updated my 760 on my Mac but I have Windows on my Mac as well. Does anyone know if I have to reinstall the 2009 map on my 760 using Windows in order to use Mapsource?
I tried to use Mapsource but it said I had no products installed.
I don't like Bobcat, I'd rather keep all my GPS stuff on the PC side.

That will allow you to install mapsource...

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Removed Link

thrak wrote:

Here is a cut and paste from and old MM post explaining how to get mapsource via a sort of backdoor method.

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[Begin Cut and Paste]
You can get MapSource without the maps for free by downloading the Garmin Training Center and updating the MapSource version.

Step 1:
Download and Install "Garmin Training Center"
http://www8.garmin.com/support/collection.jsp?product=999-99...

Step 2:
Download and Install the latest Mapsource Update
http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=209

It should be noted that the nuvi line does not come with MapSource. As has been noted, many people have gotten it for free from Garmin by politely asking and stating that they wish to use it to "manage their favorites".
[End Cut and Paste]
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Alternately you can CALL Garmin and ask them to send it to you. I must have 3 or 4 copies of it because they provide it for free with the mapping hand held units. CALL Garmin at 1-800-800-1020 and ask them nicely to send it to you.

I've used iMapsource for years to create custom routes to send to my GPS when traveling to Montana and other places. My wife likes to take alternate routes so we see different things. I simply make various waypoints (via points for automotive oriented folks) and then place them in the route in the order I want to hit them. It works GREAT. I then send the completed route to my GPS. Creating a route on the computer is MUCH easier than creating one on the GPS. I create it on the full screen map rather than on some little bitty screen. Mapsource is very nice to have.

I think the 1st link you quoted from MM (Garmin Training Center) has been removed. It brings up a Garmin page that says "Unknown Product."

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Try this link for the Garmin Training Center. (I think the link just got truncated in the post above.)

http://www8.garmin.com/support/collection.jsp?product=999-99...

Alternately, go to Garmin's webiste and type garmin training center into the search box.

Hmmm... When you install

Motorcycle Mama wrote:

Try this link for the Garmin Training Center. (I think the link just got truncated in the post above.)

http://www8.garmin.com/support/collection.jsp?product=999-99...

Alternately, go to Garmin's webiste and type garmin training center into the search box.

Training Center, then MapSource will "see" it as a MapSource product and install?

A lot easier than my method... Thanks MM and others for the tip.... wink Learn something new each day.... rolleyes

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Thanks, MM!

Motorcycle Mama wrote:

Ok. There's a lot going on in this thread that still seems unanswered.

1. What is MapSource? MapSource is a program used to send information between a Garmin GPS unit and a computer. It can contain a variety of mapsets (City Navigator, TOPO, custom maps, etc.) inside it. MapSource is the shell in which the mapsets "live. MapSource can be use to pre-plan routes on the computer. MapSource can be used to transfer routes to the GPS unit if the GPS unit supports stored routes. MapSource can be used to create Custom POIs if it has mapsets installed in it and if those mapsets contain Points of Interest information (not all maps contain this information).

2. How do I get MapSource? If you have a Garmin GPS unit with the preloaded City Navigator maps, you should be able to get Garmin to send you the disk for free by calling and politely asking. Alternately, you can get it by following the links in the thread linked by Mr.BiGG. Be advised that there won't be any detailed maps if you get it by this method. Alternately, if you have the 2009 map update, it should be on that disk or in that file.

3. Do I need MapSource to use my GPS unit or Custom POIs? No.

The thread should have stopped right here. It's the best, most concise and clearest post, then and STILL. The other posts while helpful, I'm sorry to say just muddied the water.

No Maps?

Nitrate wrote:
Motorcycle Mama wrote:

Ok. There's a lot going on in this thread that still seems unanswered.

1. What is MapSource? MapSource is a program used to send information between a Garmin GPS unit and a computer. It can contain a variety of mapsets (City Navigator, TOPO, custom maps, etc.) inside it. MapSource is the shell in which the mapsets "live. MapSource can be use to pre-plan routes on the computer. MapSource can be used to transfer routes to the GPS unit if the GPS unit supports stored routes. MapSource can be used to create Custom POIs if it has mapsets installed in it and if those mapsets contain Points of Interest information (not all maps contain this information).

2. How do I get MapSource? If you have a Garmin GPS unit with the preloaded City Navigator maps, you should be able to get Garmin to send you the disk for free by calling and politely asking. Alternately, you can get it by following the links in the thread linked by Mr.BiGG. Be advised that there won't be any detailed maps if you get it by this method. Alternately, if you have the 2009 map update, it should be on that disk or in that file.

3. Do I need MapSource to use my GPS unit or Custom POIs? No.

The thread should have stopped right here. It's the best, most concise and clearest post, then and STILL. The other posts while helpful, I'm sorry to say just muddied the water.

So, let me get this straight - if I go through the steps to get Mapsource using the link to the Garmin Training Center, I will get the program, but no maps? Is this correct?

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Gary A wrote:

So,...I will get the program, but no maps?

I seem to remember it includes a 'World Basmap'.

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You get a base world map without details

Like MM said, it's a "shell" and won't be detailed. You'd see city names, interstates and airports. Certainly no detailed city roads. There's lots of big blank areas.

Maps

Once you install Mapsource and THEN install your mapping product - such as the 2009 maps - those maps are available on the PC. I have my choice of several mapping products on my PC using Mapsource.

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Basemap

OK, a world basemap, only. Thanks for the explanation. I may try it anyway.

I got my 660 in February, pre-loaded with the 2008 maps. Since I was not entitled to a free upgrade to the 2009 map, I decided not to buy the upgrade. So, all I have is the 2008 map that is on the 660 and it probably can't be downloaded from the nuvi to my PC for Mapsource to use.

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Hey Gary....

Gary A wrote:

OK, a world basemap, only. Thanks for the explanation. I may try it anyway.

I got my 660 in February, pre-loaded with the 2008 maps. Since I was not entitled to a free upgrade to the 2009 map, I decided not to buy the upgrade. So, all I have is the 2008 map that is on the 660 and it probably can't be downloaded from the nuvi to my PC for Mapsource to use.

Gary here....

I as usual got to wondering... I found this:

http://freegeographytools.com/2007/adding-garmin-img-files-t...

Check it out and let us know..... wink

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MAPS

Folks, listen to me.

When you have installed Mapsource you can connect your GPS to the computer, open Mapsource, click on Transfer, click on From Device. At that point it will find your GPS and you get check boxes to transfer:
Maps
Waypoints (Note: this is your Favorites)
Routes
Tracks

You can transfer both ways - From the GPS to Mapsource or From Mapsource to the GPS. You can send your 2009 map set to the computer and then use it there for route planning, etc.

Yes, Mapsource only has a minimal map but you can send the maps from your unit to it and then it has the same maps as your unit.

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thrak, have you done this successfully with preloaded maps (ie gmapprom.img) files? I've never heard anyone be able to do this.

It won't work for me...

Motorcycle Mama wrote:

thrak, have you done this successfully with preloaded maps (ie gmapprom.img) files? I've never heard anyone be able to do this.

Most of my maps I have on dvd or cds, I have one Brazil that came on a SD chip. I just tried to import the maps and got the message that it couldn't because Brazil wasn't installed....

Maybe Ill see if I can do it with Mapset Toolkit.... I'll let you know what happens...

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Not Quite

Motorcycle Mama wrote:

thrak, have you done this successfully with preloaded maps (ie gmapprom.img) files? I've never heard anyone be able to do this.

I just installed the Training Center and then the MapSource update from the links MM provided. I then started MapSource, clicked on Transfer>Receive From Device. It automatically found my nuvi 660 (just like POI Loader does). I put a check mark just by the Maps selection and clicked on Receive. I got a message window that said "The selected device has no maps on it." I know this is not true, because my nuvi works just fine and displays its 2008 NA maps.

So, the answer is "no," I could not get the maps in my 660 to transfer to MapSource.

MapSource did install with just a basic basemap.

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Tampa, FL - Garmin nüvi 660 (Software Ver 4.90), 2019.30 CN NA NT maps | Magellan Meridian Gold

Here is the secret. Instead

Here is the secret. Instead of using the training center. On the Mapsource update exe, you need you extract it. Then you open then setup.exe inside it and it will install the full mapsource. With 2009 maps in it also!

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Uninstall?

bluestring wrote:

Here is the secret. Instead of using the training center. On the Mapsource update exe, you need you extract it. Then you open then setup.exe inside it and it will install the full mapsource. With 2009 maps in it also!

Should I first uninstall Training Center and the 1st installation of MapSource to start with a clean slate?

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bluestring wrote:

Here is the secret. Instead of using the training center. On the Mapsource update exe, you need you extract it. Then you open then setup.exe inside it and it will install the full mapsource. With 2009 maps in it also!

... which is what I said on page 1.

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Need Training Center

OK, so I figured out that I need to leave Training Center installed. I uninstalled, then reinstalled MapSource by executing the extracted setup.exe file. It installed fine, apparently.

I then ran the UnlockWizard and let it get my unlock code from the Garmin server. The wizard seemed to run to completion OK.

When I started MapSource, it came up with just the basemap. Why don't I see the detailed North America 2008 (or 2009) NT map(s)?

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That's all you get if you can't

Gary A wrote:

When I started MapSource, it came up with just the basemap. Why don't I see the detailed North America 2008 (or 2009) NT map(s)?

Get the mapset in your unit moved to mapsource...

I tried to load my Brazil map to MapSource without success.....

I would love to get it into MapSource... As you would like to get 2008NT into MapSource...

Edit: I think bluestring is under the impression that you either have the 2009 update, or 2008 on a disk.....

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Gary - Call Garmin

Gary A wrote:

OK, a world basemap, only. Thanks for the explanation. I may try it anyway.

I got my 660 in February, pre-loaded with the 2008 maps. Since I was not entitled to a free upgrade to the 2009 map, I decided not to buy the upgrade. So, all I have is the 2008 map that is on the 660 and it probably can't be downloaded from the nuvi to my PC for Mapsource to use.

Gary - Call Garmin. I bought the 350 last fall, and based on comments here, I called Garmin and asked to get MapSource so I could manage my Favorites. They asked what version of the map I already had (2008) and offered to send me the DVD for $10 (or was it $15?) shipping. The DVD they sent had MapSource and the 2008 maps so when I installed it I had maps on the computer that matched what was on my Nuvi at the time.

Following MM's method would have only given me MapSource but no 2008 NT maps installed on the computer to use with it.

Thanks.

I've give it a try this weekend and thanks to the others for their suggestions.

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Gave It A Try

Yeah, I guess I'll have to call Garmin and ask nice.

I just thought I would give it a try using the suggestions in this topic. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. neutral

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Trying to work MapSource

I finally got MapSource installed. I sent my waypoints, tracks, maps, and routes, to MapSource. Why is it only showing 19 maps which are 19 different states. I know I have more custom poi's and things of that nature. Why is MapSource not showing everything and when I tried to search for streets and different things in MapSource it did not work. Why is that? I think I might be doing something wrong. I'm new to MapSource and how it works. I know what it is intended to do but still confused.

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Tell us more about what you did to get MapSource installed.

Also, Custom POIs won't show up in MapSource. If you want to see them in MapSource, they need to be GPX files. CSV files must be converted. Once they are GPX files, you can open them directly in MapSource.

How are you searching for streets? What are you doing and what's not working?

Ideas anyone?? MapSource won't find my device . . .

thrak wrote:

When you have installed Mapsource you can connect your GPS to the computer, open Mapsource, click on Transfer, click on From Device.

I had only one minor problem with Mapsource so far and managed to fix it by installing a different driver for my device.

However, last night, when I tried to "receive from device", Mapsource absolutely would not find my gps! I checked drivers--OK--USB connections--OK--and even installed the updated Mapsource 6.14 version--No help.

Anyone have ideas on why Mapsource will not "find device" when my gps is connected and turned on???

I also checked the gps setting and made sure interface set to "garmin" per the Mapsource error message--No help.

Thanks in advance.

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does your PC have a drive letter assigned to the device?

I had similar problems (not Mapsource, but nothing would "see" my nuvi) until I did this:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/16673

Q

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Thanks for the suggestion but . . .

Q wrote:

I had similar problems (not Mapsource, but nothing would "see" my nuvi) until I did this:

Q

I was trying to update drivers and uninstall problem devices in device manager before I checked back and saw your reply. Device manage was a bust. I managed to get Mapsource to recognize the gps then it gave me an error message again and would not transfer. I'm thinking some recent Windows updates I installed are messing me up. I put XP Service Pack 3 on a few days ago and that was the last time I was OK finding the gps when turned on.

I never saw my PC assign a drive letter to the gps. I've only used it via Mapsource to date. I have not sent files to the gps or SD card from Explore directly or any other program. Only through the Mapsource program from Garmin.

I'll keep trying. But I appreciate the help!!

PS I wasn't even sure anyone would visit this old forum topic!

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