Fuel prices

 

Regular unleaded is down to $4.30/ gallon here in Virginia. What say you?

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Northeastern PA.

$4.79 as of Friday afternoon. Was as high as $5.19 2 weeks ago.

Diesel is still over $6 / gal.

East Central Alabama

Regular unleaded gas price has dropped to $3.89/gallon as of Saturday, 07/09.

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Anyone can see the price

Anyone can see the price anywhere in the US using gasbuddy.com. Try it today!

https://www.gasbuddy.com/home

I use it

zx1100e1 wrote:

Anyone can see the price anywhere in the US using gasbuddy.com. Try it today!

https://www.gasbuddy.com/home

I've been using GB for a while now, key in the various places near where I'll be passing through to see who is the cheapest and get the gas there.

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I am jealous....

we are still near $5 in MD.

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local supercharger rate is up

While I mostly charge my Tesla Y at home, I used the Supercharger at Uptown in Albuquerque for the second time this week, and noticed that they had raised the rate from $0.28 per kilowatt hour to $0.34 per kilowatt hour.

So with that going up and the gasoline price going down the electric advantage over gasoline is diminished a little.

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Utah

Gas still over $5 dollars.

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price

the oil companys are making record profits now, why did they raise the price? because some one said something about a shortage of oil i wonder if it was the oil companys ? just to rase the prices !!! i believe the shortage was created like some other shortages like toilet paper they cut production created a shortage and the people horded what they could get and created a real shorted and the price went thru the roof now walk into a walmart and see what happened the price is still high and the shelves are over flowing. whats it called again creative gouging !!

From the 08JUL22 Paul Krugman

From the 08JUL22 Paul Krugman

“… So, about those gas prices. As economists at the St. Louis Fed recently pointed out, there’s a longstanding phenomenon in the fuel market known as asymmetric pass-through or, more colorfully, rockets and feathers. When oil prices shoot up, prices at the pump shoot up right along with them (the rocket). And when oil prices plunge, prices at the pump eventually fall, but much more gradually (the feather). …”

“… I’d summarize their argument as follows: When oil prices shoot up, owners of gas stations feel empowered not just to pass on the cost but also to raise their markups, because consumers can’t easily tell whether they’re being gouged when prices are going up everywhere. And gas stations may hang on to these extra markups for a while even when oil prices fall. …”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/08/opinion/inflation-oil-bid...

Prices

johnm405 wrote:

Gas still over $5 dollars.

The average price for regular grade where I live in southern California is $6.03. Cheapest I can find anywhere around me is $5.59. Wonder if we'll ever see it go below $5.00 a gallon again here, or if this is going to be the new norm. Maybe this is the government's way of forcing us all to buy electric cars sooner rather than later.

Diminished Oil Supply

It doesn't help that pipelines were shutdown, tax breaks were taken away, and refineries productions were halted. These events have all diminished the supply of oil which increased the supply due to demand. Now there is the possibility of the production in the Permian Basin (West TX, SE NM) are going to be cut.

gas

$4.55 here

Higher in other developed countries

Down the better part of a dime here in eastern NC in the last week or so, to $4.62 per gallon.

As bad as it's been, the fact is that gas prices are high in all developed countries.

In fact US gas prices at the pump remain low compared to other developed countries as of June 26, 2022:

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/
(shown here by the liter. Multiply these prices by 3.8 to calculate per-US-gallon prices)

Such a bargain. Hey it's a lot cheaper than name-brand printer ink.

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"141 could draw faster than he, but Irving was looking for 143..."

My perspective

is to notice that the price of oil itself is essentially what it was in 2008, but the price of gas at the pump is roughly 3 times what it was in 2008. When I also notice that the oil companies are reporting record profits (and huge profit increases from last year), I think that I see what is happening . . .

- Tom -

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News Flash

In SoCal, several municipalities have decided no new gas stations can be built, nor can fuel pumps be repaired!

Ain't it grand..

Can anyone say $20.00+ for a gallon of gas?

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Funny .....

BarneyBadass wrote:

In SoCal, several municipalities have decided no new gas stations can be built, nor can fuel pumps be repaired!

Ain't it grand..

Can anyone say $20.00+ for a gallon of gas?

That, and all those still waiting in line for the electricity to get turned on for the charging stations ......... Good times ahead ...for sure ...... Even the delta smelt are happy sad rolleyes

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Very True

Lost Anyway wrote:

Down the better part of a dime here in eastern NC in the last week or so, to $4.62 per gallon.

As bad as it's been, the fact is that gas prices are high in all developed countries.

In fact US gas prices at the pump remain low compared to other developed countries as of June 26, 2022:

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/
(shown here by the liter. Multiply these prices by 3.8 to calculate per-US-gallon prices)

Such a bargain. Hey it's a lot cheaper than name-brand printer ink.

This is quite true but most other nations aren't as large as the US. They don't drive as many miles and consequently, don't feel the pain as much.

Due to their relatively compact size, public transportation is usually a viable option in many European nations.

Gasbuddy

zx1100e1 wrote:

Anyone can see the price anywhere in the US using gasbuddy.com. Try it today!

https://www.gasbuddy.com/home

I use gasbuddy frequently and it's great but it's not economical to drive even a few miles out of your way to save a few pennies.

I've also found gas prices fluctuate so rapidly that the posted price on Gasbuddy isn't always accurate.

Speaking of gas buddy, I

Speaking of gas buddy, I don't know if it's people reporting inaccurately or what.

I follow a particular costco gas station in kenosha wi. As my car takes premium, I keep an eye on the premium amount. Over the last month or so (I check daily), gasbuddy has reported an amount higher for 40¢ or so compared to the costco site. Last night for example, gasbuddy was showing $5.34 for premium while costco site $4.99 (it's been this way last few days).

http://www.chicagogasprices.com/Costco_Gas_Stations/Pleasant...

https://www.costco.com/warehouse-locations/pleasant-prairie-...

it's truly a shame

how it's manipulated, not necessarily a free market....

For example, real prices as I type, let's use Costco to level set.

South Jersey? $4.26

Central Jersey? $4.32

Delaware? $4.35

Costco PA? $4.49

What's wrong with the picture?

Well, before the war, PA was 30-40 cents more than South Jersey.

South Jersey was the same as Central Jersey, I mean it's only 50 miles away.

Delaware was the cheapest for years.

They're all out of whack.

These are real time prices, 7/12/22 @ 1224 EDT

Oh, also--there was a time when the war just started and prices were rapidly increasing. Premium was 11 cents more than regular. Today, it's $0.75. S**** to have a car that uses premium huh? Well many 4 cyls do now...

My car doesn't "require"

My car doesn't "require" premium but it is recommended. (300 hp 2.5L turbo). Generally, i'll alternate reg/prem between fillups. The way I drive the difference isn't really noticeable. No point with lights blocks apart. On the highway I may give it a good blast every now and then.

Hmmm...????

zx1100e1 wrote:

My car doesn't "require" premium but it is recommended. (300 hp 2.5L turbo). Generally, i'll alternate reg/prem between fillups. The way I drive the difference isn't really noticeable. No point with lights blocks apart. On the highway I may give it a good blast every now and then.

I'm no auto mechanic by any means... but don't engines need to be "timed" for various octane levels?

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Correction

Lost Anyway wrote:

Down the better part of a dime here in eastern NC in the last week or so, to $4.62 per gallon.

Whoa, just noticed this AM that now it's down to $4.49 per gallon here, so almost a 25-cent drop in two-plus weeks.

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Fuel Prices

$3.65 in central Georgia. No state tax till the end of August. Possibility it could be extended to the end of the year.

go juice

BarneyBadass wrote:

I'm no auto mechanic by any means... but don't engines need to be "timed" for various octane levels?

Correct. Running premium in a vehicle tuned for 87 will yield no performance gains. Maybe better cleaning as premium supposedly has more/better detergents. Running 87 in a car tuned for premium will usually result in lower performance. Today's cars have fancy knock sensors to detect detonation and retard timing if need be.

https://i.imgur.com/0Ayg419.png

maybe, maybe not

bdhsfz6 wrote:

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I use gasbuddy frequently and it's great but it's not economical to drive even a few miles out of your way to save a few pennies.

~snip~

I guess that depends on much the savings are and how big your tank is. My neighborhood in Pennsylvania is literally 5 minutes from the state of Delaware, gas is consistently 10 to 25 cents cheaper a gallon in DE. If you have a 25 gallon tank that could be over $6 a tankful saved and if you always go to DE that savings adds up fairly quick.

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Filled Up

Costco 4.52 but you have to show active membership card

In Ohio and Kentucky…

LMChu wrote:

Costco 4.52 but you have to show active membership card

…you have to swipe or scan your membership card before the pump will activate. No membership card; no gas. Costco is now between $4.15 to $4.39 a gallon around the Cincinnati Tri-State area.

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Hope this trend continues

Hope this trend continues, but probably not.

I paid 4.199 at Sam's Club in Newport News, VA today!

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3.99 cash, Bedford VA.

3.99 cash, Bedford VA.

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not

maddog67 wrote:
LMChu wrote:

Costco 4.52 but you have to show active membership card

…you have to swipe or scan your membership card before the pump will activate. No membership card; no gas. Costco is now between $4.15 to $4.39 a gallon around the Cincinnati Tri-State area.

In Mt. Laurel NJ. The local govt. bullied Costco, who seems to not want a fight. Non members can continue to gas up there, it was on the news. Cherry Hill said beginning July 5, membership card must be presented.

It would be hilarious if Costco could make a point and simply close the Mt. Laurel store and open it one town over lol That's too 1980's when principles mattered.

I

zx1100e1 wrote:
BarneyBadass wrote:

I'm no auto mechanic by any means... but don't engines need to be "timed" for various octane levels?

Correct. Running premium in a vehicle tuned for 87 will yield no performance gains. Maybe better cleaning as premium supposedly has more/better detergents. Running 87 in a car tuned for premium will usually result in lower performance. Today's cars have fancy knock sensors to detect detonation and retard timing if need be.

https://i.imgur.com/0Ayg419.png

ran my 1998 Maxima for 18 years on regular 87, but when the knock sensor failed, I used premium until it was fixed, then went back to regular.

My BMW says 89 minimum (that's fishy but it says that on the fuel door), and LS says premium on the fuel door but no mention of octane.

Non branded sometimes skim, like Wawa is only 92. But in Calif., top tier is only 91.

A person is a second class citizen these days if they need diesel or premium, gouge o rama.

A lot of us believe we are being forced to electric.

1st day in office Joey stated his "New green Deal" and was going to shut down oil.

BSideTheCSide wrote:
johnm405 wrote:

Gas still over $5 dollars.

The average price for regular grade where I live in southern California is $6.03. Cheapest I can find anywhere around me is $5.59. Wonder if we'll ever see it go below $5.00 a gallon again here, or if this is going to be the new norm. Maybe this is the government's way of forcing us all to buy electric cars sooner rather than later.

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Nuvi 2460LMT.

Cleveland

Seeing it at BJ's for 4.36 although I haven't yet purchased at that price.

I have the misfortune of a sorta sound memory

pwohlrab wrote:

1st day in office Joey stated his "New green Deal" and was going to shut down oil.

BSideTheCSide wrote:
johnm405 wrote:

Gas still over $5 dollars.

The average price for regular grade where I live in southern California is $6.03. Cheapest I can find anywhere around me is $5.59. Wonder if we'll ever see it go below $5.00 a gallon again here, or if this is going to be the new norm. Maybe this is the government's way of forcing us all to buy electric cars sooner rather than later.

I wish I had an incentive to buy a new vehicle. We have a 1 ton pickup which made sense for towing our sea-going sailboat. Well,,, at our age we are no longer sea going. We should trail the boat to a coast and sell it. Not happening soon enough.

I have the misfortune of a sorta sound memory, in this case my work technology forecasts. Asked late last century "should we be in the cell phone business" I got cell site economics all wrong. That wasn't important as with real data and ignoring my prejudices that would have been easy to correct. What was my real failure was to recognize that we (some great we in the sky) might actually make a reliable handset (smartphone). My mind remains boggled.

My belief is that our future transportation will be based on both electronic power and hydrogen power. I just think (I'd hope better than before) that hydrogen is more elegant.

picky stuff that is not details

minke wrote:

I just think (I'd hope better than before) that hydrogen is more elegant.

Well, at the big picture level there is a lot to like about hydrogen. Zero-emission combustion! Much higher energy density than any battery. Simple chemistry.

The rub is in some things that are way bigger than details. Producing it (in a way that does not cause more harm than the alternative being avoided). Shipping it. Storing it.

Personally, I think some industrial sites that need lots of fuel to operate should operate big electrolizers, only running them when there is excess power available on the grid (this happens in California now when the wind is high and the sun is bright) and power, properly priced, is cheap. With a few days worth of storage, I'd hope you could run the whole plant more cheaply, better balance the power grid, and save some emissions.

I think that sort of thing is a better way of dealing with the transport and storage problems of hydrogen than is dreaming of hydrogen fuel-cell personal automobiles.

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Still over 5!!! A travesty

Still over 5!!! A travesty

Prices are Ridiculous

Considering the fact that the US was self-sufficient for energy just a few years ago and the top producer of oil, it is bizarre that the country is in a high-priced situation for gas. The US has some of the most technically advanced refineries in the world and oil from all over the globe is shipped to the Houston, TX area to be refined. Shutting down pipelines and refineries, getting rid of tax incentives, not allowing bids on Federal lands, and considering shutting down or reducing production in West TX / SE New Mexico are events that reduce supply and increase the price of the product. You have to wonder if the people who made these decisions even consider the welfare of the people.

No mention of...

...responses to what Russia is doing in Ukraine. It does have an effect in our neighborhoods too.

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Can anyone say…

…Keystone?

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RoSho_24 wrote: Regular

RoSho_24 wrote:

Regular unleaded is down to $4.30/ gallon here in Virginia. What say you?

4.60 ish in northern cities and counties of Virginia.

Pipelines are operating, but save some reserves for our future

panama wrote:

Considering the fact that the US was self-sufficient for energy just a few years ago and the top producer of oil, it is bizarre that the country is in a high-priced situation for gas. The US has some of the most technically advanced refineries in the world and oil from all over the globe is shipped to the Houston, TX area to be refined. Shutting down pipelines and refineries, getting rid of tax incentives, not allowing bids on Federal lands, and considering shutting down or reducing production in West TX / SE New Mexico are events that reduce supply and increase the price of the product. You have to wonder if the people who made these decisions even consider the welfare of the people.

Other than the temporary Colonial ransomware shutdown last year, what pipelines were operating and shut down?

I am okay with holding off on drilling everywhere in USA even though it means a little higher price while we are alive. Save some for future generations , they will need it.

RUG Price

$4.899 in CT.

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Crazy Times

When the price of oil was sky high a few years ago, the Bakken Shale field was drilled and oil flowed copiously. That worked as long as the price of oil was kinda high. The supply from the Bakken fields increased the supply which lowered prices. We produced enough oil get the price of crude low enough to crush Russia and terrify Saudi Arabia. But the war and perturbations that are causing the crude pricing problems are not expected to last long enough to restart all those wells in the Bakken fields.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine was and still is not expected to last much longer. This is the reason for the current high oil prices. The high gasoline and diesel prices is due to disgusting parasitic opportunistic price gouging. Gasoline prices were not near current prices when oil was at similar prices several years ago. The war is being monetized by opportunistic scoundrels. Fear sells.

Russia is getting friendly with Saudi Arabia and they are keeping crude prices way high.

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One can hope more competence

One can hope more competence is in office in 2024 to bring the country out of this recession.

Fuel at the kenosha wi costco today was $4/$4.80 reg/prem respectively. Still has a long way to go. I alternate between regular and premium between fillups. Owners manual recommends premium but doesn't require it.

Central Florida

Cheapest place here in Lakeland/Central Florida is $3.95 a gallon.

E42.5

Noticed an E85 pump recently. Roughly half the price of 87 octane per gallon at the same station (can't remember the exact prices of either). Have vehicle that is setup for optional use of E85. Never thought seriously in the past about using E85, but at roughly half the price of regular, gave it some thought.

Did some research, and decided against it. Significantly less power per gallon in E85 compared to 87. So you need more of it per mile relative to 87. The higher alcohol content isn't good for engine components. No thanks.

SoCal Gas

Costco premium gas down recently to $5.70 from $6.14

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Gas prices seem to be

Gas prices seem to be dropping a little everywhere. As people cut back on driving, the supply goes up and prices come down. I think this trend will continue for a bit. The federal gas tax hasn't hit charging use yet. . .keyword yet. I think it's only a matter of time before they will phase in a 0.13 cents or more per kilowatt hour tax for charging stations. Not sure how that may work for those who charge at home. Fun times!

Wow..

sl4gps61 wrote:

Costco premium gas down recently to $5.70 from $6.14

Last Friday ( 2022-07-15 ) I paid 5.289 / gallon regular and 5.389 / gallon on ( 2022-07-16 )

The 1st @ Sam's in fullerton, the second @ Sam's in Glendora.

Still bloody expensive.

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