Map deletes and HELP !

 

I have a predicament where I need more space on my C drive.
The only item I see that will give me room is the Garmin map file 2020.20
I am using 2020.30.

I install almost all programs to my D drive partition which has
tons of room.

It seems to me I deleted the second to last map once and it caused me problems, i.e I had to reinstall Garmin, maps etc.

If I were home I could install Partition Magic and create a larger C drive partition, but I a cannot do that now.

Also in a somewhat related subject the damn Windows 10 just did an automatic update and ate up almost all of my empty space leaving me about 400kb. How can I stop the next automatic update?

TIA

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Can't

Can't help with your Windows issue but unless you need it for BaseCamp that older map can be safely deleted

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Don't see why you can't

Don't see why you can't delete the previous map version. I always do it after I update to the current version. Never had a problem.

W10 will let you delay updates for 7 days. Maybe at the end of 7 days you can force it again. But I wonder if it still downloads the updates and just waits to install.

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You may be able to make room

You may be able to make room (temporarily) by deleting all downloaded updates at C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download

If your Win 10 is Pro, you can pause update for up to 35 days. When the limit is reached, the PC will download new updates before you are allowed to pause it again.

You can also launch "Disk Cleanup" to check if there's anything you can safely delete.

portable drive

there pretty cheap now you can get a terra byte drive or a 500 gig that plugs into your computer thru a USB port and move photos' extra maps, texts files, books, everything you don't need on your "c" drive. if you put to much on your "C" drive you could corrupt it and lose it all.

Windows Location

On my Windows 10, Garmin Express leaves a copy of the map in this location:
C: ProgramData Garmin CoreService Downloads Map
(I used a space instead of a slash which POI Factory removes)
I just keep the most recent version.

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TreeSizeFree

Garmin chews up a lot of disk space for sure but I've used a tool called TreeSizeFree which is immensely helpful in identifying large areas of disk consumption by folder. Give that a go - I suspect it will help you pinpoint where the problem areas are. The Windows 10 updates are a necessary evil to stay current and protected but they do take some overhead. Once applied, it should cleanup. If not, do a disk cleanup of C: and explore the system files cleanup option also. Check all the boxes.

Use Program Uninstall for map

sussamb wrote:

Can't help with your Windows issue but unless you need it for BaseCamp that older map can be safely deleted

I use to Control Panel-Programs, then Garmin City Navigator NT 2020.20, in your case and uninstall. Do the same for any other previous map versions that you have.

Safest way.

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jfossy wrote:

On my Windows 10, Garmin Express leaves a copy of the map in this location:
C: ProgramData Garmin CoreService Downloads Map
(I used a space instead of a slash which POI Factory removes)
I just keep the most recent version.

Double the backslash

Slash

chewbacca wrote:
jfossy wrote:

On my Windows 10, Garmin Express leaves a copy of the map in this location:
C: ProgramData Garmin CoreService Downloads Map
(I used a space instead of a slash which POI Factory removes)
I just keep the most recent version.

Double the backslash

You can add a / by entering an

& # 47 ; without the spaces.

Actually delay can be 35 days, depending on version

KenSny wrote:

Don't see why you can't delete the previous map version. I always do it after I update to the current version. Never had a problem.

W10 will let you delay updates for 7 days. Maybe at the end of 7 days you can force it again. But I wonder if it still downloads the updates and just waits to install.

At least with Windows 10 Pro, if you repeatedly hit the pause button, the total delay period can go as high as 35 days. 7 days are added with each click.

Should you want a delay in Windows Home, see the free utility at https://www.ghacks.net/2019/12/12/windows-update-blocker-is-...

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I think it does

KenSny wrote:

...W10 will let you delay updates for 7 days. Maybe at the end of 7 days you can force it again. But I wonder if it still downloads the updates and just waits to install.

I think I tried delaying the update for a week and it didn't work. If memory serves, not too long ago I told Win 10 to wait, but when I went to shut it down at the end of the day it installed the updates anyway.

Phil

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More space? Clean up WinSxS folder

Melaqueman wrote:

I have a predicament where I need more space on my C drive.

You might be able to acquire some needed space by cleaning up the Windows/WinSxs folder ("Windows Side by Side"). Depending on the number of Windows updates you have done, it is often 5GB to 20GB in size. Do NOT just go to the folder and start deleting items as you may cause issues with Windows. Rather, avail yourself of the methods that Microsoft provides; see https://www.windowscentral.com/how-reclaim-space-reducing-si.... In my instance a recent cleanup resulted in the WinSxS folder size going from almost 9GB down to 6GB.

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Depends on update sequence

plunder wrote:
KenSny wrote:

...W10 will let you delay updates for 7 days. Maybe at the end of 7 days you can force it again. But I wonder if it still downloads the updates and just waits to install.

I think I tried delaying the update for a week and it didn't work. If memory serves, not too long ago I told Win 10 to wait, but when I went to shut it down at the end of the day it installed the updates anyway.

Phil

If you enter the normal Windows dialog to start an update process, it will continue to do so regardless of how you have changed those settings. Once the update downloads, installation, and reboot operations are complete, you should then be able to use the delay setting in the normal manner. And as I've mentioned, keep hitting the delay 7 days button, and you can get a total of 35 days delay (at least in Windows 10 Pro).

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Lots of things to try, thank you.

I'll start by removing 2020.20
Then try other suggestions/
I am deep in Mexico and have no access to computer stores.
At home I have a 1 TB external drive.

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Updates

Info on delaying updates Windows 10. https://www.digitalcitizen.life/delay-windows-10-updates

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Use Easeus partition master

It is a free program that will allow you to repartition the drive as long as you have room. It is a simple program to use.
Also you mentioned you are down to 400kb. That is way to low of disk space. I am surprised you aren’t having other issues. As for delaying the updates, everyone is correct. You can only delay for so long and MS will override the settings and do it anyways.

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removed 2020.20

Had to use Revo uninstaller to delete 2020.20, Windows could not remove it.

Tried = C:WindowsSoftwareDistributionDownload
Its only a miniscule 731 mb, so left it alone.

Did a system file clean up.

Also found a way into Windows update and disabled it for now.

Anyway I now find myself with 15.5GB breathing room.

Thanks all for the suggestions and help offered.
You guys rock !!!

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Melaqueman wrote:

Tried = C:WindowsSoftwareDistributionDownload
Its only a miniscule 731 mb, so left it alone.

Did a system file clean up.

Also found a way into Windows update and disabled it for now.

Anyway I now find myself with 15.5GB breathing room.

I bet Windows Update Cleanup gives you back the most GBs. I can get back 16.5GB if I clean Windows Update (copies of all installed updates).

Unfortunately

GPSgeek wrote:

I use to Control Panel-Programs, then Garmin City Navigator NT 2020.20, in your case and uninstall. Do the same for any other previous map versions that you have.

Safest way.

That only deletes maps you've installed specifically for BaseCamp, it doesn't delete the download in CoreService downloads

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wow

jfossy wrote:

On my Windows 10, Garmin Express leaves a copy of the map in this location:
C: ProgramData Garmin CoreService Downloads Map
(I used a space instead of a slash which POI Factory removes)
I just keep the most recent version.

Thanks for that, I keep up on getting rid of Junk files on my PC, must have overlooked that spot for a while. Including 2020.30 I had 66GB of maps in that folder.

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I actually

pwohlrab wrote:

It is a free program that will allow you to repartition the drive as long as you have room. It is a simple program to use.

have it on my D: drive saved software.
Installed it and did nothing for me unless there is something I'm not doing right.

I don't know why I did it a few years ago I created a 150 GB C:drive and a 500 GB D:drive

But EaseUS cannot enlarge the C drive by taking from the D drive.

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Update

This was driving me nuts, I got to about 15.5 GB of free space and not long after back to nada!

Well one item I found and according to what I read is safe to delete, are ALL the files in the C:WindowsTemp folder.
This cleared up 16.4 GB

Another lesson learned now is to clean that folder every once in a while!

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Need to shrink the D drive 1st

That makes room for you to enlarge the C drive.

Melaqueman wrote:
pwohlrab wrote:

It is a free program that will allow you to repartition the drive as long as you have room. It is a simple program to use.

have it on my D: drive saved software.
Installed it and did nothing for me unless there is something I'm not doing right.

I don't know why I did it a few years ago I created a 150 GB C:drive and a 500 GB D:drive

But EaseUS cannot enlarge the C drive by taking from the D drive.

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Temp files. @Melaqueman

On Windows 10 you can go to the notifications tab and click on it, bottom right. Click all settings,system,and storage on left side of screen. At the top of the screen, make sure storage sense is on. Below it will show you what is taking up the space.You can also delete the temp files.Under that click show more categories.For more info.

Lesson learned early on by me. I have always used the download folder to keep certain files there. Windows 10 will delete the download files if the check mark is inserted for it. Previous versions of windows didn't have the download folder in the same location.

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Thanks

pwohlrab wrote:

That makes room for you to enlarge the C drive.
But EaseUS cannot enlarge the C drive by taking from the D drive.

Alright I'll give that a try, but I'll take break for now. I'm getting wide screen eyeballs!

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Melaqueman wrote:

This was driving me nuts, I got to about 15.5 GB of free space and not long after back to nada!

Well one item I found and according to what I read is safe to delete, are ALL the files in the C:WindowsTemp folder.
This cleared up 16.4 GB

Another lesson learned now is to clean that folder every once in a while!

That doesn't sound normal unless your system is updating or downloading stuff (Garmin maps, Windows Updates). You just don't lose 15.5 GB in 1 day.

C:\Windows\Temp folder content is safe to delete. The fact that you can access that temporary folder tells me that you are using the PC as an Administrator. Regular user does not have permission to access that folder. Using a Windows PC (to access the internet) as an Admin is very dangerous. Did you make sure the PC isn't infected?

Weird !

chewbacca wrote:

That doesn't sound normal unless your system is updating or downloading stuff (Garmin maps, Windows Updates). You just don't lose 15.5 GB in 1 day.
C:WindowsTemp folder content is safe to delete. The fact that you can access that temporary folder tells me that you are using the PC as an Administrator. Regular user does not have permission to access that folder. Using a Windows PC (to access the internet) as an Admin is very dangerous. Did you make sure the PC isn't infected?

This morning I checked the Temp folder and it was full again. Deleted the files and you could actually watch the folder filling up again immediately. Currently up to 10.99 GB and over 1,700 files and continuously adding more.

So essentially cleaning out the Temp folder seems to accomplish nothing.

I have an anti-virus program running, so I'm OK that way.

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If the Windows/Temp folder

If the Windows/Temp folder is filling up as you watch it, then either Windows or a program is probably in the process of updating something.

If you disconnect WiFi or any connection to the internet, delete the files in the folder, does the folder fill up AFTER you disconnect?

I only have a log file of 0 bytes in mine.

I suspect Windows is reloading updates.

If it were me, let the updates run and install. They will either install or let you know there is not enough space again.

Since you don't have your partition program with you, have you tried to use the Windows program? Computer management/Disk managment.

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Something to check...

Melaqueman wrote:

This morning I checked the Temp folder and it was full again. Deleted the files and you could actually watch the folder filling up again immediately. Currently up to 10.99 GB and over 1,700 files and continuously adding more.

So essentially cleaning out the Temp folder seems to accomplish nothing.

I have an anti-virus program running, so I'm OK that way.

If you have ever downloaded anything from the Microsoft Store (and you likely have) follow the procedure at https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4458149/windows-10-.... KB updates often come from the store. You can do the procedure even if you think you haven’t been to the “store”.

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If you have (or upgrade) to

If you have (or upgrade) to Windows 10 Pro you can delay updates (security) for 30 days and feature updates for a year. The real answer is to increase the size of your C: drive. Even installing programs on your D: drive will write small pieces of it on the C: drive. Another thing you can do is move the swap area to your D: drive, as it defaults to C: drive when you install Windows. Without an adequate C: drive, you are on borrowed time as Windows will not run properly with no space on the C: and some things must go on this drive.

Spent hours

Trying your suggestions and some don't work on my Win 10 version.

Spent hours searching for a solution.

Right now I may have slowed down the filling up of the WindowsTemp folder.

Did this in the registry and it seems to have slowed down the immediate filling of the folder. Down to 12 files and 80kb in size from many thousands of files and as much as 60 GB.

This is the Registry key I altered:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMControlSet001ServicesAppXSvc

In that line double click "Start" and replace the number with " 4 " which disables the AppXSvc

Thanks again to all for trying to help me with this non GPS problem

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Move CNNA to your D drive

1) Create on your D Drive a folder called GarminMaps
2) Move the CNNA folder from "C:ProgramData Garmin Maps" to D:GarminMaps
3) Create a link from the map's new location in C:ProgramData Garmin Maps

Put back slashes where they belong. For some reason this forum deletes them.

Slash

BobHy wrote:

Put back slashes where they belong. For some reason this forum deletes them.

You can add a / by entering an

& # 47 ; without the spaces.

Not sure it works

CraigW wrote:
BobHy wrote:

Put back slashes where they belong. For some reason this forum deletes them.

You can add a / by entering an

& # 47 ; without the spaces.

&#47

Inserted as you stated, and preview simply is WYSIWYG

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Semicolon

John from PA wrote:
CraigW wrote:
BobHy wrote:

Put back slashes where they belong. For some reason this forum deletes them.

You can add a / by entering an

& # 47 ; without the spaces.

&#47

Inserted as you stated, and preview simply is WYSIWYG

Your &#47 is missing the needed semicolon.

/

CraigW wrote:
John from PA wrote:
CraigW wrote:
BobHy wrote:

Put back slashes where they belong. For some reason this forum deletes them.

You can add a / by entering an

& # 47 ; without the spaces.

&#47

Inserted as you stated, and preview simply is WYSIWYG

Your &#47 is missing the needed semicolon.

/ / hmm, interesting.

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Backslash

Note also, that if you want a backslash \ instead of a forward slash /, the code is \

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just a test

[/quote]
Your &#47 is missing the needed semicolon.[/quote]

/ / hmm, interesting. [/quote]

Another test

/

Seems to have worked.

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codes

alandb wrote:

Note also, that if you want a backslash \ instead of a forward slash /, the code is \

Found a page that lists all the (HTML) codes here:

https://ascii.cl/htmlcodes.htm

My question though, why do some symbols, need a code and some don't on this forum?

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Codes

soberbyker wrote:

My question though, why do some symbols, need a code and some don't on this forum?

As I recall, some of these special characters used to work in posts, but stopped working a few years ago when JM updated the Drupal forum software. I don't remember exactly how long ago it was, but I do remember having to go through a couple of my FAQs to put the HTML codes in.

JM could probably give you a more specific reason why the special characters are not allowed in posts.

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thanks

alandb wrote:
soberbyker wrote:

My question though, why do some symbols, need a code and some don't on this forum?

As I recall, some of these special characters used to work in posts, but stopped working a few years ago when JM updated the Drupal forum software. I don't remember exactly how long ago it was, but I do remember having to go through a couple of my FAQs to put the HTML codes in.

JM could probably give you a more specific reason why the special characters are not allowed in posts.

"special characters" that's the term I was trying to remember when I said symbols, thanks.

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Oh goodness

alandb wrote:

Note also, that if you want a backslash \ instead of a forward slash /, the code is \

Interesting. I was sure that backslashes could simply be typed as a backslash so either I'm misremembering this redface or it was changed to require the code since my test just now of trying one failed. Thanks. Good tip.

To summarize, slashes and backslashes can be displayed but require jumping through hoops.

Well ...

We have done a pretty good job of hijacking Melaqueman's thread redface exclaim . I hope you have been able to get your problem solved in spite of this diversion.

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freeing up disk space == if

freeing up disk space == if you have 2x or more D drive than you need, IE you have 200GB used of 500GB, I would shrink your D Drive, then create an E drive. Now you can move all your D drive to the E drive. Now delete the D drive and expand your C drive to what you need. You can rename your E drive to D so everything will work for now. You can do all this with Windows Disk Management.

To go back to just the D drive there are a few options.
Wait till you get home and copy E (or D) to a usb drive. Delete the E (or D) drive. Create a D drive and copy back.

Make an image of E (or D) with Macrium Reflect Free delete the E (D) drive. Create a new D and restore the image to D.

Of course, this all depends on what you have on the D drive now.

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CraigW wrote:

To summarize, slashes and backslashes can be displayed but require jumping through hoops.

You don't need to do anything to type forward slash. Here's your forward slash /

I have said it before but I don't think anyone cares... I'll say it again anyway...

Double the backslash \ if you don't want to remember the sequence of characters to use.

c:\windows\temp

Note
If you preview or edit the comment or if someone quotes your post, \ will be gone.

Thanks!

chewbacca wrote:

I have said it before but I don't think anyone cares... I'll say it again anyway...

Double the backslash if you don't want to remember the sequence of characters to use.

c:windowstemp

Note
If you preview or edit the comment or if someone quotes your post, will be gone.

It's not that we don't care … we don't remember wink

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No problem

alandb wrote:

We have done a pretty good job of hijacking Melaqueman's thread redface exclaim . I hope you have been able to get your problem solved in spite of this diversion.

Alan, those pesky C:\windows\temp\ files keep coming back even after the registry hack.

BTW I just double typed the backward slash, no code!

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Not allowing the Backslashes

Not allowing the Backslashes has to do with inserting malicious code into the comments.

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It works

alandb wrote:

It's not that we don't care … we don't remember wink

I'll confess I don't ever remember reading the double-entry mode to get the b/slashes to work. But its burned into my brain now. Thanks for the tip/reminder chewb!

Ah, I've figured out why I thought earlier that slashes worked without problems while backslashes didn't.

A slash or backslash on its own won't appear but when inserted between other characters—e.g., before/after—a single slash will appear while a single backslash between characters won't.

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Melaqueman wrote:

Alan, those pesky C:\windows\temp\ files keep coming back even after the registry hack.

BTW I just double typed the backward slash, no code!

I'm looking at mine. I have more than 400 (temp) subfolders but they are all empty. Their names are:
tw-180c-754-13f9e07d.tmp
tw-180c-754-13f9e07f.tmp
etc

There are a few more empty subfolders and that's normal. I just deleted those empty subfolders but I'm sure they will be recreated later.

What do you have in there?

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