How do you cancel a Map Update?

 

How do you cancel a map update in Garmin Express? Downloading the files is going to take 20+ hours!

I need to find a better option.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598
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What kind....

...of download speeds are you getting? 20 hours seems awfully long.

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It varies greatly

Poor signal in my area.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

Okay. I stopped it.

Should i delete what little it has downloaded so far?
I assume you just delete the CoreService/Downloads/Map folder.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

Yes ...

... just delete it.

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???

gdfaini wrote:

Poor signal in my area.

Sounds like you are trying to do it over WiFi? Maybe a better solution would be to go to someone's home who has a wired connection. Then do your download there. I also learned that if you chose just to download to the GPS it is a faster download than to computer and device.

Or by any chance are you still using DIAL UP ???

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Not WiFi, MiFi

I guess I'll have to wait until I visit someone with high speed cable internet.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

same boat.

gdfaini wrote:

I guess I'll have to wait until I visit someone with high speed cable internet.

I go thru the same thing..pia. This wireless transfer on my drivesmart 61lmt s was much faster. About an hour

WiFi, MiFi, ShmiFi

Same thing !

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Perhaps

If you have a laptop you can go to your local public library, coffee shop or restaurant (McDonalds) to get a quicker connection.

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MiFi probably not best option

I don't know how much data you have on the Mifi plan, but a map update is HUGE! I full North America update is likely over 4GB even with compression. That's likely to put a serious dent in anyone's data plan. Even unlimited is only unlimited to a point.

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Notnecessarily

canuk wrote:

If you have a laptop you can go to your local public library, coffee shop or restaurant (McDonalds) to get a quicker connection.

Locations like that may block large downloads. They dont want people to download netflux, eyc

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long download

gdfaini wrote:

Should i delete what little it has downloaded so far?
I assume you just delete the CoreService/Downloads/Map folder.

Express should be able to resume download that wasn't finished when it connect again with Garmin server. So you can try to resume download and it should start from point it stopped.

If you don't have to worry about data transfer and only have slow connection you can allow Express to download in background. It will download maps and inform you when they are ready to install. To do this you have to activate option Schedule in Settings (Gear icon on top right main screen)

Just keep in mind, to make this work you have allow both options in Settings/General and on slow computer and slow internet connection it can slow down visibly your system.

May is the key word

GPSgeek wrote:

Locations like that may block large downloads. They dont want people to download netflux, eyc

Before having high speed internet, I've downloaded map updates at my local library successfully.

McDonalds in Canada offers free high speed unlimited access

Cheers smile

http://www.mcdonalds.ca/ca/en/help/wi-fi_help.html

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The OP

canuk wrote:

Locations like McDonalds in Canada offers free high speed unlimited access Cheers smile
http://www.mcdonalds.ca/ca/en/help/wi-fi_help.html

Be a long way for the OP to go since he is in Virginia !

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@ Melaqueman

I'm trying to help by giving him ideas for a possible solution to his problem & certainly not asking him to come to Canada to download the map confused

P.S. Try to have some respect & class by not adding your own words when you quote someone !!!!

Melaqueman wrote:
canuk wrote:

Locations like McDonalds in Canada offers free high speed unlimited access Cheers smile
http://www.mcdonalds.ca/ca/en/help/wi-fi_help.html

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Nüvi 255WT with nüMaps Lifetime North America born on 602117815 / Nüvi 3597LMTHD born on 805972514 / I love Friday’s except when I’m on holidays ~ canuk

Internet speed

What kind of internet speed do you have ? Type "INTERNET SPEED TEST" on the search bar of your internet select speak easy or any other one and check your internet speed. It will tell you your download/upload speed.

If you have TWC you can get 50mbps for about $40,00 a month. that's including free modem.

But 20 hours it seems too way long unless you have a dial up.

also disable temporarily AD_BLOCK-virus program,check what other programs are running on the beckground. and disable them.

type in the search bar.on your startup window MSCONFIG. select STARTUP and see what programs are running be sure you de-actived the one you do not need..

Yeh! ..... but lots to do in Canada while he's here.

Melaqueman wrote:
canuk wrote:

Locations like McDonalds in Canada offers free high speed unlimited access Cheers smile
http://www.mcdonalds.ca/ca/en/help/wi-fi_help.html

Be a long way for the OP to go since he is in Virginia !

It's Canada 150 (1867-2017)and lots of activities.

He will be welcome to join the celebrations.

LOL

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Wow

Must be dial up speed. crying

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How do you know when the maps are downloaded?

It says Map Update Available. Will it say something different when they have been downloaded?

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

If

gdfaini wrote:

It says Map Update Available. Will it say something different when they have been downloaded?

If you download and install the map update to your GPS, Garmin Express will then report "You are up to date". It will also gice you options to reinstall the update and/or install the map update files to your computer.

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It's downloading in the background

How do I know when it is done?

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

When

When Garmin Express says "You are up to date".

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message

gdfaini wrote:

How do I know when it is done?

I never use background download, but it should show "install" button whey you look at device status. If maps are downloaded update on device should start immediately. May someone, who is using background download explain how it looks like, please?

Basically you should be able to disconnect GPS any time until update on device starts. But once maps are being transferred to device DO NOT unplug GPS or you will make mess on it.

I feel your pain

had dial up, local library kept kicking me out when about half done. Then Hughes Net only had 10-15 gb so that was an all nighter during the 15 gb bonus at slow speeds. Last year went to Comcast, 25mps and 1 tb monthly for $39 per month. Saving over $250 per month by going to Comcast for Internet only, dropping Dish ($180), Hughes Net ($84)and Century land line phone ($50), now have Off Air and Netflix ($10) TV Oooma phone ($4 tax). Better TV, Phone and Internet and saving money

Fastest case...

Unplug the unit. That's what I'd do and start over from scratch.

Downloaded while visiting brother

Will see what happens when I try to do the update tonight. GE said the download is 6GB, but it only downloaded about 3GB worth of files.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

I'm not doubting your

I'm not doubting your situation, but I have never had GE report the correct download time, the time to finish bounces all over from a half hour to 10 hours during the download sometimes, in reality it takes about an hour or two depending on the time of day.

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GE lies like a dog

It said 1:45 when I started. 3 hours later it says 3:18 to go.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

And

soberbyker wrote:

I'm not doubting your situation, but I have never had GE report the correct download time, the time to finish bounces all over from a half hour to 10 hours during the download sometimes, in reality it takes about an hour or two depending on the time of day.

and your ISP's download speed, and the traffic on your ISP's network, and the traffic hitting Garmin's servers and what is going on on your computer other than sitting there doing the download, and the list goes on. wink

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Stupid software

Apparently it didn't download everything it needed when connected to highspeed. Its burned through 10% of my data allowance and still has 3:05 to go.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

Never trusting GE with my data again

15% of my data gone and still 2:42 to go. At this rate it might be done before the 2019 update comes out, if I don't run out of data first.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

Well, it finally finished, I think.

It finally finished, but with a red bar saying the update failed.
The GPS seems to be working fine and it has map 2018.2. I think what failed was the installation to computer. I had to Install to computer again and it did another small download before that completed.

That certainly was way more aggravating than it should have been.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

Well ...

... with a good broadband connection it generally works fine, but Express (Garmin) can have issues otherwise. I've just checked to remind myself what the Express requirements are and notice it now says may require up to 20Gb of free disk space, previously it said 13Gb

•Windows 7 SP1 or newer, Microsoft .NET 4.5 (included)
•1024 x 768 display, USB port and 1 GB RAM
•High speed Internet access (Not for use with dial-up, mobile or satellite connections)
•May require up to 20 GB free disk space

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My computer meets all requirements

I connected to a high speed connection to do the download. No excuse for it to take 7 hours after it supposedly downloaded the maps.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

High speed connection

gdfaini wrote:

I connected to a high speed connection to do the download. No excuse for it to take 7 hours after it supposedly downloaded the maps.

No other members running Garmin Express have reported this condition. If you really have a high speed connection, there is something wrong with either the computer software or hardware, or the router.

Try a speed test:

https://www.verizon.com/speedtest/

dobs108 smile

A better speed test is

A better speed test is http://speedof.me/ because it uses HTML 5. Verizon and most of the others use a Java based test and it has an overhead that causes inaccurate speeds. You can compare readings from several tests.

And just as a reference, I have a 10mb cable connection and while GE reports a couple hours initially, it usually finishes in less than two hours, and this includes installing on the computer. The slow down point is the USB connection to the GPS. USB2 is a major slowdown for GE passing data back and forth for installation work.

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USB2

phranc wrote:

...USB2 is a major slowdown for GE passing data back and forth for installation work.

Thanks for the speed test link.

phranc has brought up an important point. As maps are getting ever-larger, when will Garmin offer a USB3 connection, or will they rely on WiFi?

dobs108 smile

Don't

Don't hold your breath waiting for USB3 support on your Garmin Automotive GPS. Garmin may have been near the bottom of the list of companies that switched from USB 1 to USB2 back some years ago.

With some of their new models now offering Wi-Fi update support, my guess is that's the direction they will be going in the future.

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I tend to agree with the

I tend to agree with the wifi direction. More than likely, mediocre speed wifi radio chips are cheaper, in the long run, than USB3 and associated software will be, for a good while. For those that argue no accessibility to wifi there is still the USB2 connection.

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I agree

dobs108 wrote:

No other members running Garmin Express have reported this condition. If you really have a high speed connection, there is something wrong with either the computer software or hardware, or the router.

I have a 255W with a 1.1 USB & yes it's very slow but certainly not anywhere what your experiencing.

P.S Thanks Phranc for your speed test link which gives me superior results than my own ISP test page grin

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USB.

canuk wrote:
dobs108 wrote:

No other members running Garmin Express have reported this condition. If you really have a high speed connection, there is something wrong with either the computer software or hardware, or the router.

I have a 255W with a 1.1 USB & yes it's very slow but certainly not anywhere what your experiencing.

P.S Thanks Phranc for your speed test link which gives me superior results than my own ISP test page grin

If slow USB is causing you grief, there is always cloning to a SD card reader to alleviate that issue. However, I think slow download of the huge map update files is the main problem. The slow USB transfer is just an aggravation.

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My problem isn't USB

Once it finished downloading it copied the maps pretty quickly.

My problem was that GE didn't download everything when it was connected to high speed for 3 days, so when I went home to do the installation it took forever complete the download over MiFi.

Next time I'll have to do the actual installations when I'm connected to high speed.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

My problem isn't USB

Once it finished downloading it copied the maps pretty quickly.

My problem was that GE didn't download everything when it was connected to high speed for 3 days, so when I went home to do the installation it took forever complete the download over MiFi.

Next time I'll have to do the actual installations when I'm connected to high speed.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

USB 1.1

As Mr jgermann says, "Back-up,Back-up,Back-up" I always do so before a new map update & it's quite long with a unit that has a USB 1.1 (+- 60 minutes)

Downloading the actual map & installing it via the clone method is thankfully very quick smile

I posted the actual times in a previous thread & consider that I have a "standard" computer using Windows 7 along with "regular" high speed internet.

Comparing your download time with mine in considering the specs of your high speed internet package should give you a fairly good idea how long it should take.

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/47385?page=0#comment-450657

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Problem

gdfaini wrote:

Once it finished downloading it copied the maps pretty quickly.

My problem was that GE didn't download everything when it was connected to high speed for 3 days, so when I went home to do the installation it took forever complete the download over MiFi.

Next time I'll have to do the actual installations when I'm connected to high speed.

This is/was the problem all! gdfaini was NEVER connected by a High Speed connection but via a MiFi which is a glorified cell phone internet connection and certainly not intended to download large GB files. A bit of surfing maybe, emails and that's it.

MiFi- WiFi same thing. OLD saying. You cannot make a silk purse from a pigs ear.

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Not so

I was directly connected to high speed cable at my brothers house for 3 days. I had GE set to download updates in the background, but GE only downloaded about 3GB of data.

I installed the maps on my 1390 while there but couldn't install the maps on my wife's until I got home.

Why it didn't download everything it needed when it could is beyond me. It shouldn't have had to download anything over my slow MiFi connection.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

Well ...

Your wife's will need additional files to yours, especially if hers is a newer model.

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Yes, but GE should have known that

and downloaded them.

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><> Glenn <>< Garmin nüvi 2598

Err ...

How would it know you have another GPS at home?

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and

sussamb wrote:

How would it know you have another GPS at home?

and what model it was, and whether it needed the JCV file, and whether it needed the DEM map file, and whether it needs the voice ASR files, and a butch of other files that are needed on some units and not on others.

Also, if I had a Nuvi that didn't need a few GB of files that other models had to have, why would I want to eat up my internet download quota downloading them? That's why GE only downloads the files it needs for the device that's attached to computer at the time.

One other thing - what is "downloading the map update in the background" mean? I download a map update using GE and while it's downloading I go off and do other things on my computer. Is that what we are talking about or am I missing the point? I do know I can have GE always "running" in the background but to me that's not downloading the map update in the background.

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