New Orleans' New Mobile Camera Ticketed For Violation

 

Back on January 9th, 2017, the City of New Orleans began doubling the number of enforcement cameras in use, deploying the first of ~45 new cameras. Thirty-two school zones have been identified for permanent installations (completion expected in April), plus 10 additional mobile cameras--highly mobile, as it turns out.

The mobile cameras are dash mounted inside unmarked white sedans, complete with a headlight-sized flash unit externally mounted near the front bumper and possibly some inverted paper cup sized antennas on top. Compliance with existing requirements for warning signage is debatable and a factor in a pending lawsuit.

While speeding through school zones is a worthy problem for these cameras to address (ignoring the probability that the authorities will not keep sync'd with school days and zone hours, or that vandalism and maintenance will quickly become issues), I nonetheless had to chuckle when one of the mobile units recently made the poor decision to set up in a popular area for weekend activities, blocking the view of oncoming traffic, and getting ticketed by one of the overlapping law enforcement agencies whose "turf" they were on.

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Same thing in Nassau County New York two years ago. School zone signs missing, speed camera vehicles getting ticketed, and so on. The public officials' biggest mistake was not knowing which days school was open or closed. Public outcry about this caused them to refund one million dollars in fines. This did not calm the public down. Political bosses determined that the speed cameras were "toxic" to the party in power, and the program was cancelled. The amount of money wasted on what was supposed to be a big moneymaker is still secret and the county is in fiscal crisis.

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http://www.poi-factory.com/node/43508

It makes me tired just reading these threads. I can't believe we did all this work. But we succeeded! Become an activist also! Good luck!

dobs108 mad

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I get what you're sayin' and can't argue that the money grab is more likely the greater driving force behind the deployments, especially for places already unable to manage their ever expanding budgets properly. I'm also happy to say my own suburb just outside the city proper decommissioned their handful of traffic cameras a few years ago. I gotta admit that while they were active, it greatly reduced infractions by some of the worst offenders at the locally well known problematic intersections where the cameras were deployed.

Although I passed the initial info to Angela earlier this month, as far as gathering geo-location specifics for these new cameras as they roll out, I hope--as in the threads you cited--that others will contribute since I don't typically travel through many--if any--of the locations listed in the article linked in the OP.

Going forward, I'll also be following that lawsuit, especially since one of the attorneys is a family acquaintance.

it's kind of interesting to

be against enforcement. I never gave it much thought to tell you the truth, but I now have a toddler.

I have witnessed crossing the street to go to Mass, that not only do many cars not yield to the pedestrians, but they speed up or honk. Years ago, they actually had PD stationed there to avoid accidents. imho that is a reverse money grab, that costs taxpayers by putting somebody who earns $85k before overtime there for hours, when a traffic device costs much less.

Anyway, I wonder who would be against having cams on the stop arms of school buses? Is that a money grab too? Do you guys ever pinch yourselves, and think about what you're saying? I'm thinking, a) the camera does not lie b) if it catches cars blowing a school bus red, it's a valid fine. In some states, it's not a non-moving violation, it's an immediate suspension. I don't know where this concept comes from that fines are money grabs. OK then, forget about the fine, make it a suspension with no fine.

Where do Patrol Cops Make That Much?

johnnatash4 wrote:

imho that is a reverse money grab, that costs taxpayers by putting somebody who earns $85k before overtime there for hours, when a traffic device costs much less.

Where do you live that a patrol cop makes $85k before overtime? Around here I think they start in the mid-20s or low 30s. Or are you saying salary + benefits is $85k?

Also, many of the cops you see directing traffic at businesses and organizations are off duty. The business or organization pays them to direct traffic, so no taxpayer money is involved (unless you count the gas and wear-and-tear on their patrol car to get to and from the location).

integrity

RebHawk wrote:
johnnatash4 wrote:

imho that is a reverse money grab, that costs taxpayers by putting somebody who earns $85k before overtime there for hours, when a traffic device costs much less.

Where do you live that a patrol cop makes $85k before overtime? Around here I think they start in the mid-20s or low 30s. Or are you saying salary + benefits is $85k?

Also, many of the cops you see directing traffic at businesses and organizations are off duty. The business or organization pays them to direct traffic, so no taxpayer money is involved (unless you count the gas and wear-and-tear on their patrol car to get to and from the location).

professionalism respect

http://www.lowermerion.org/home/showdocument?id=11331

when they used to do the church crosswalk, the vehicle is idling for hours with the lights on. This has gone away, it's too costly to the township.

Way More Than NC

johnnatash4 wrote:

http://www.lowermerion.org/home/showdocument?id=11331

when they used to do the church crosswalk, the vehicle is idling for hours with the lights on. This has gone away, it's too costly to the township.

Call me shocked. The police there make about twice the amount that they do in Winston-Salem, NC, a city around 5x as large as Lower Merion.

unfortunately

RebHawk wrote:
johnnatash4 wrote:

http://www.lowermerion.org/home/showdocument?id=11331

when they used to do the church crosswalk, the vehicle is idling for hours with the lights on. This has gone away, it's too costly to the township.

Call me shocked. The police there make about twice the amount that they do in Winston-Salem, NC, a city around 5x as large as Lower Merion.

Kobe Bryant's HS memorabilia still got stolen from the HS....