Forced to Windows 10

the above happens when a person has windows set to install recommended updates (why would anyone do that)

Well, as many businesses found out - not installing updates leaves your PC wide open to hackers. Security Updates are usually caused by someone (a white hat programmer) in the user community discovering a flaw that allows someone or some program to gain unauthorized access to the system or files. These flaws are usually "Published" to the internet. It used to be that folks would just email MS with the problem description. The emails would be processed very slowly. "Publishing" a flaw prods MS to fix it right away, as now the hackers are aware of it and they will exploit it. MS moves fairly quickly to fix serious problems - they are compelled to show "Due Diligence" for a "Known Problem". Depending on the seriousness of the problem a "Fix" could come out immediately, weekly or monthly (last Thursday of the month - I think).

Indecently, it seems that KB3035583 is no longer being pushed. It was pushed to my wife's laptop last Thursday and it installed. It was back to the old window with no tricks. Closing it did not set-up an install time. I did the uninstall, reboot and check for updates. Guess what? No new updates were found. I guess the user community raised enough stink that MS has backed down!!!!!

That would be nice if its true. Some how I don't trust MS not to try something underhanded again before 7/29.

My system won't successfully upgrade to Windows 10, so forcing this update onto my system will only cause me to need to reload my system.

Here is a nice video on how to disable most of the data mining going on with Windows 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rczgCmoNSSE

It was a couple of positive comments in this thread that prompted me to Bite the Bullet and Load Windows 10.

Install started at 2 AM and finished and ready when I cam down in the morning. so far so good.
Office 2003, EPE, Basecamp, POI Loader, Outlook 2003 all work.

Prior to upgrade, my Firefox was locking up and causing grief. Works perfect after Windows 10. Google chrome also working fine. Haven't tried the Windows 10 Browser, but will try later.

Microsoft was still sneaky with the settings on the first startup. Express Install of Settings nice big button. Choose my own settings a fraction of the size. So far, I've turned off all sorts of things that allowed sharing and location info. Time wioll tell if I alter that.

Been using it for some time now and very happy with it. The learning curve not that big of a problem.

I was told that 10 has problem with Google Chrome.
Id that true?

I have used it with Chrome and Firefox both with no problems. I tried out the PC Opera just to see what it was like and no problems detected for the short time I tried Windows 10 on it.

If you have the Windows 10 update avaiable to you. I would go for it. It is true support for Windows 7 and 8 will still exist for a long time. But I still believe all the focus will be on Windows 10 for any new features in the future.

Windows 10 laptop all good with chrome

So My Brother in law called yesterday.... We're talking about my upcoming Prostate Surgery (Today I'm waiting before driving there).... and you have to understand, my Brother in law is a joker...

After the good luck wishes about today, he says in an offhand way:

"I can see it now--- The Operating room, the Computer Controlled Robot, You, Doctor and Support stall all there in the middle of the surgery.... And all are Staring at the Computer Screen has a Pop-Up Windows that says:"

"Reboot to install Windows 10 Update"

That was the high point of my day yesterday!!!

If I knew an artist, I'd ask for him to commission a drawing of it--- That I'd give to my Brother in law!!!

EDIT: You know, the more I think about it, the funnier it is!!! Yes, if anyone knows how to get this done... I'll be interested in that ---- in a couple days.....

See you in a couple days!

Jan

I have a desktop with 10 home and a laptop with 10 pro and Chrome works as expected on both, no problems.

The only problem I had was with the printer.

I quick reinstall solved that immediately.

I still don't like the "Edge" browser.

All in all, very satisfied.

Keep us posted on your recovery. Pray all goes ok (even with Windows 10 update)

Most of the above comments are hysteria and justifiably so because of MS's non-disclosure, past reputation, and current "bullying".
RE the - I hate W10 - comments. You should have tried W8 - then you would be very justified. Hating W10 is more - I hate change of any kind - W10 has lots of improvements. There are fixes for its spying and its crappy games and lack of gadgets (which went away in W8). It has a few bugs as ANY software will. To hear ppl say they are switching to Linux is a joke. I have tried Linux and it is just too much of an effort to port all my Windows programs or replace them with unfamiliar replacements to justify it. Not saying that I won't try at some point, but for most ppl, unless you do very little with your computer, it will be a hole lot harder to switch to Linux than it will be to transition to W10 from W7. W10 is not a high learning curve from W7.
My recommendation is to stick with W7 if you do not want a new OS and the challenges of any change at all. For some ppl with older W7 systems, the upgrade will fail because of unsupported hardware and non-existent drivers since the hardware vendor (not MS) refuses to develop.
It is all about $$ and MS is taking Apples lead in generating $$ with the Windows Store and selling tracking/use data. "So get a MAC" and become frustrated by Apple's overpriced systems and pay to play Apple store. Or Get Linux and figure out how to install software from the GIT hubs - both of which will not run some of your favorite Windows programs - so you will have to find new options or change your computer usage.

I'm not happy with W10, and it is not as smooth as W7, but I found the transition relatively painless and short. It is faster, and more secure. It is more future proof than W7. If you keep W7, don't be surprised when your favorite app stops working because the vendor upgraded it to take advantage of W10's improvements.

Just saying.............

I'm happy with Windows 10 and in my opinion it works far better than any Windows system before, maybe with the exception of Windows XP-Professional.

I just found out that my previous Windows 8 takes up 16.4 GB of space on my C:\ drive. In addition to that some temporary windows installation files take up another 4 GB.

No, you cannot just go into Windows Explorer to delete the folder "Windows.Old" since Windows considers it "System Files".

Here is a web page which will give you complete instructions to remove the windows.old folder.

In my case I freed up about 20GB of space on the C drive. Also in order for your computer to load "ANY" program it has to search the whole drive which includes 20GB of useless files. By removing those it should speed up your computer a bit.

If you're happy with your Windows 10, remove the useless files from your computer.

Link for removal instructions:
http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/delete-windows-old-folder

Folks tens to dislike something that is forced down there throat.

I had a similar situation happen to me. I also declined the terms and the computer reverted back to window 7

I've had recommended updates turned off so I won't get Win10 pushed. My laptop is a very early Win7 model, so I don't expect it will run Win10 well. I'll wait for SP1 and get a new laptop.

Thanks for the tip.

Won't go into my machine. I cloned my C disk, then unhooked my C disk and hooked up my clone and let Win 10 Try to install.

After 24 hrs of sitting at 96% complete I figured it couldn't handle some of my hardware. So I killed it, installed my origional drive, uninstalled the Win 10 KB, made it so I didn't get any more updates and now I'm a happy Win 7 abuser.

No Win 10 for my machine!

I was skeptical at first, but the new Windows 10 is definitely worth it.

FaceBook or any of those social things.

Just don't want to blab my entire day of doing nothing to a world that doesn't care if I accomplished the task or not.

I do have two desktops on Win10 and a laptop also. Couple Android computers. A hard drive set up with a version of Linux.

I've been running 10 for a week or more on a laptop and don't have too many issues with it. However, I did uncheck all of the "send info to Microsoft" boxes. I was blown away at how much info they want to collect.

Since I Don't run Win 10, a few folks I know, have told me when MS puts on service, they frequently turn the information collection mechanisms back on.

Has anyone else seen this behavior?

Accompanied with a cup of coffee and a bowl of stewed prunes, and a couple of 'drains', I start my return to 'normalcy' whatever that is/was.
Here are cliff notes of the procedure in general, as I recall:

I very much wanted to, but never saw, the robot machine I was placed in. (The Davinci I knew was a Digital Color Corrector, not surgical item).
5 holes, one larger by belly button, and two on either side toward hips.
Pathology afterward indicated that our decision of total removal was correct
No extreme pain was encountered, other than gas pains. They had me up the same day. Getting used to the tubes and such was the hard part.

Scary-est part of this thing was how it was found:
We retired last year, and as new Primary Dr. was going over our records, mentioned that I hadn't had a colonoscopy in 9.5 yrs.
During colonoscopy (nothing found there) noted a slight swelling on Prostate. 3 doctors, multiple exams, and a Biopsy later, I was told it was positive for prostate cancer, with a Gleason score of 7 (Past 'wait & see'), and all this with me having no symptoms whatsoever!!!!!

My score was a 6 back in 1997, but I had a radical at Johns Hopkins. I spent two weeks with a catheter.

I expect you to do fine. I also expect that you can spend some extra time on the site while you recover. Welcome home.

The Davinci robot sound like the way to have things done. Glad you are ok now.
Mary

I may not have to pay MS for the upgrade, but the upgrade requires a high speed internet connection. I tether my desktop to my AT&T phone for internet and if I want high speed internet for "other things", this upgrade would cost me $30-40 bucks. (Under my AT&T plan I get 5GB a month and then it reverts to 128k. Or I can buy 1GB for ten bucks each)

Ron

Ask a friend to download the ISO onto a USB stick, or plop your laptop at the nearest place with free WiFi and use that connection to download the ISO.

The sensible plan here for the holdouts is to simply let the upgrade happen, then downgrade back to Windows 7 or 8.1. Because once you do the upgrade, the device will be permanently registered on Microsoft's servers as eligible for Windows 10, even if you choose not to use it.

For those that cannot successfully upgrade, there's not many alternatives for you. Sorry.

Have been running XP since it first came out. At whatever point in time that it's no longer advisable/practicable to run it, then I'll go with a Linux OS. Until then...

Nuvi1300WTGPS

It's not been advisable to run Windows XP for two years now. But, good luck with Linux. Depending on what you use your PC for, Linux may well be a viable alternative.

i was able to uninstall it but it was really annoying b/c it just took over and i couldn't do any work for an hour.

I broke down and was going to do the update.
All went smooth until it got to 99%.
There it died. Never went passed that point. It sat there for over 4hrs.
Stopped the program. According too windows when it checked my system it found no problems.
I run 7 professional with 8 gig of ram.
Did anybody else have this problem?

Have a price of hardware on your motherboard windows 10 couldn't resolve a driver for. I've seen this exact condition 6 times. After much analysis and diging it was found Windows10 couldn't resolve a driver. Most notably, NIC & Wireless adapters on the motherboard.

One system it couldn't resolve the drivers for the on board audio.

That's what I've found and it may explain what you've seen as well.

I was not really looking forward to doing the upgrade. and this just gave me a reason not to do it.
Such is life I guess. LOL

Seen this posted many times when stuck at 99%. Just ride it out. This video gives the same advice.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LsaYEHTJweM

If you want to make absolutely sure there are no problems or conflicts moving to Windows 10, do a clean install instead of the upgrade.

"If your computer has Windows 8 or 8.1 installed by the manufacturer, DO NOT DO A CLEAN INSTALL of Windows 10 on your first try, or you'll lose your free upgrade! You must do an upgrade-in-place style install, using either the installation media or the automated Windows Update system."

That said ...

http://www.cnet.com/how-to/clean-install-windows-10/

The 'free' part of moving to the Windows 10 OS is unimportant to me. I would much rather have the OS work unencumbered from the previous OS. The free upgrade from Windows 7 or Windows 8 has proven to be fraught with problems a considerable percentage of time.

I understand. I posted the info for anyone who has yet to move to 10, free may not be a big deal to you but to others it may be, thus the warning.

I transitioned from Windows 7 to 10 with no problems on a "Home" version PC and a "Pro" version laptop, in fact areas I expected I would have problems presented none. Programs I was afraid would no longer work still do as expected.

There is a way to do the upgrade for free THEN a clean install where the OS remains free IIRC.

http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/windows-10-can-be-clean-i...

http://betanews.com/2016/06/16/windows-10-refresh-tool/

Microsoft changes their policy at some point. In-place upgrade is not necessary. You can even use your Windows 7 or 8 license keys to install Windows 10.

I am not sure if that policy is still the same today. They keep changing it.

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/10/12/annou...

Device activation improvements: We have received a lot of feedback from Insiders on making it easier to activate Windows 10 on devices that take advantage of the free upgrade offer to genuine Windows by using existing Windows 7, Windows 8 or Windows 8.1 product keys.

I read the above post after I posted.....Never Mind...

clean install after upgrade in place = free & functional

OK, when I upgraded last year they said you had to upgrade in order for the license to carry over for free, then, if you wanted to do a clean install, it would somehow work.

Early on in the upgrade year, you did in fact have to do an upgrade first in order for the activation to be logged onto Microsoft's servers for future installs onto that machine. They changed it a few months later so that Windows 7 and 8.1 keys would work. However, I believe that assumes that the Windows 7 or 8.1 key came from a Windows 7 or 8.1 purchase.

PCs with preinstalled copies of Windows 7 or 8.1 should still upgrade first, then clean install. On Windows 7 this is because the CoA attached to the PC has a key that is different from the one used to activate the included copy of Windows 7. On Windows 8.1, there is no CoA attached at all.

I like the idea of a clean install. Both my PCs came with the Windows 7 x64 disc, and after running them for two years, I made a clean install and reinstalled all software.

How to do this with Windows 10 is still in doubt. This will not be clarified before the "free" deadline. I definitely will not do the Windows 10 upgrade.

dobs108

Don't worry about drivers for your printers, scanners and those kinds of things. Make sure you can get the Windows 10 drivers for the chipsets and controllers on your motherboard. If you can't get these drivers, the ones for Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 MIGHT work.

I've been working on a buddy's laptop for the last three days. Did the "can this machine be upgraded" test and everything said we were good to upgrade.

BUZZ

While Win 10 installed, once again, the chipset drivers for the Network hardware and the necessary updates for the HDD / SSD going from Win 7 x 64 to Win 10 x 64 couldn't be found.

I'm beginning to think if the system being upgraded is more than 5 years old, the upgrade is going to be painful at best.

I've swiped drivers from here, there and everywhere, installed them and now for the most part, the PC is starting to work. I've still got a minor issue with a display driver. It would have been nice if MS put out a list of what chipset drivers had to be acquired for installation.

Thanks

I am running Windows 10 but don't trust it. Ever go to Settings / Privacy?. Lots of things you can and should turn off. One setting even said if you turn this off at some point WE may turn it back on. Scary huh. Had lots of trouble with MS updating a video card driver that didn't work till i found a hidden setting that told ms not to install , to let the mfg co. install the best one or let me decide.

Previously, Microsoft forced users to upgrade to Windows 10 before they could start fresh and do a clean install, which was annoyingly complicated and time-consuming. Now, things are much easier, since you can activate Windows 10 with a Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 Product Key.

For example, if you took your computer to [say] Geek Squad and requested that they do a 'clean install' of Windows 10, the Geek Squad would use your computer's Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 Product Key to obtain the Windows 10 download at no-charge. Of course, the Geek Squad will charge you ~$100 for their time and expertise. But, you can do it yourself by signing-up to be a Windows Insider and downloading Windows 10 and doing a clean install on your own computer. See below...

Read ► https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/10/12/annou...

Numerous Activation methods in Windows 10 ► http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/activation-in-...

Windows Insider Sign-up ► https://insider.windows.com/

Windows 10 Clean Install (Insider Preview ISO) ► https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsins...