BaseCamp update

 

When I fired up BaseCamp today an update was downloaded to my computer. I installed it and am playing with a new feature (Trip Planner). At least I think it is new. Not sure what benefit it will be to my Nuvi 50, but interesting none the less.

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What do each of you think of BaseCamp now? Is it better?

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Better than MapSource?

I had and used MapSource years ago. Just recently got a Nuvi 50LM and downloaded BaseCamp. Have found it OK to to use as a planning tool and to try "Whay If" ideas. My Nuvi does not support all the features available.

Michael

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update

Thanks for the update

Worthy replacement to MapSource

mgarledge wrote:

What do each of you think of BaseCamp now? Is it better?

The reason I believe a lot of people hung on to MapSource is that its search capabilities were faster and easier to use. With the current versions of BaseCamp, while search may still need a bit of a speed boost, it's now just as easy to use as with MapSource. At this point, I believe one can ditch MapSource and not miss it.

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Thanks

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:
mgarledge wrote:

What do each of you think of BaseCamp now? Is it better?

The reason I believe a lot of people hung on to MapSource is that its search capabilities were faster and easier to use. With the current versions of BaseCamp, while search may still need a bit of a speed boost, it's now just as easy to use as with MapSource. At this point, I believe one can ditch MapSource and not miss it.

I might download it again and see. I know how to use MS but it crashes a lot,
Thanks

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Basecamp stll missing some basics

Basecamp still doesn't do the simple things.

It still dumps all your waypoints, routes and trip logs into one list. They are different and as Mapsource did, should be separated from each other.

It still doesn't allow you to have categories for your waypoints. You have to wait until you send it to the GPS to set a category.

It still doesn't allow you to sort your trip logs in order by date when you have more than 1 month involved. I use the trip logs regularly and its a pain.

Just my thoughts.

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Thanks Bear007

bear007 wrote:

Basecamp still doesn't do the simple things.

It still dumps all your waypoints, routes and trip logs into one list. They are different and as Mapsource did, should be separated from each other.

It still doesn't allow you to have categories for your waypoints. You have to wait until you send it to the GPS to set a category.

It still doesn't allow you to sort your trip logs in order by date when you have more than 1 month involved. I use the trip logs regularly and its a pain.

Just my thoughts.

I need my waypoints and routes separated. I use categories. Looks like I will keep on using MapSource. I just have to always remember to save as I go so when it crashes I don't loose everything I was working on.
Thanks again.

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Bear007

Yes I found the trip log sorting poor. I created separate lists for each month and moved the recently downloaded into the appropriate one, so that the sorting would work. An extra step that should not be necessary.

I did find that when uploading way-points to the device, the name of the list will become the new category in the Favorites. So all the way-points on that list will show the same category on the device in favorites. At least that is how it works on my Nuvi 50.

Michael

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Oh My! Back to Mapsource

mldorsey wrote:

Yes I found the trip log sorting poor.

Michael

Mapsource
I recently tried to save my trip logs using Basecamp. I gave up...I save my trip logs by date. 2013.7.3.Fireworks.gdb

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Thanks

I like BaseCamp. I tried Mapsource, but didn't see an advantage.

Thank you for letting us know about an update.

I Will Use

Trip Log any day. It is simple, never had any problem.

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A big gripe for users of MapSource going to BaseCamp is the way the map screens are rendered. BaseCamp is "cartoony" and mimics the way the nuvi renders the map (with the same color scheme as well. This doesn't work very well on the PC side...in the past with MapSource, you could easily identify freeways and such when zoomed way out. With BaseCamp, the map rendering makes for a visual mess.

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Would 4.2.1's Trip Planner

Would 4.2.1's Trip Planner assist those whose waypoints keep getting jumbled when sent via BaseCamp?

Change History
Changes made from version 4.1.2 to 4.2.1:

  • Added Trip Planner
  • Adds an easy way to plan multi-day trips
  • Round trip support
  • Can print a trip itinerary
  • Can add destinations along a route
  • Flying support (airport and flight number look-up)
  • Supports traveling between different time zones
  • Can add Adventures that you'd like to take as part of your trip
  • Routing Improvements
  • Added support for different route profiles for different legs of a route
  • Added RV and Truck routing profiles with special route options
  • Find Improvements
  • Added support for UK postal code search
  • Added support for Yelp search
  • Added support for named POI search (far away POIs should be found if it's an exact name match)
  • Added support for POI category search (you can type 'Hotels, Las Vegas, NV')
  • Added quick search (hover over the map to invoke it)
  • Added ability to display more search results
  • Fixed various find issues
  • Basestation Improvements
  • Added support for displaying BirdsEye while in Basestation mode
  • Added support for displaying and saving the track of the Basestation itself
  • Added support for displaying the most recent update time for Basestation contacts
  • Added support to have different folders and lists with the same name (as long as they have a different parent in the folder hierarchy)
  • Added support for changing the location of BaseCamp's database
  • Added Irish Transverse Mercator grid
  • Fixed an issue where roads from the base map were displaying along with roads from the detailed map
  • Fixed an issue where BaseCamp was not displaying properly localized map labels
  • Fixed issue with Garmap Southern Africa Topo & Rec 2012.3 NT not being displayed in BaseCamp
  • Fixed an issue with certain file names for Adventures and Garmin Cloud
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Separate Waypoints and Routes via Lists

bear007 wrote:

Basecamp still doesn't do the simple things.

It still dumps all your waypoints, routes and trip logs into one list. They are different and as Mapsource did, should be separated from each other.

It still doesn't allow you to have categories for your waypoints. You have to wait until you send it to the GPS to set a category.

It still doesn't allow you to sort your trip logs in order by date when you have more than 1 month involved. I use the trip logs regularly and its a pain.

Just my thoughts.

Don't know what happen to my first reply...but here goes again...
For this example: Create a Folder called Pennsylvania and now create a List under it call PA Waypoints and create another list call PA Routes and another call PA Tracks... create your trip with the Pennsylvania folder highlighted (Blue)with your routes and waypoints going to and from PA and around PA ... now on the Search Icon located on lower left column at bottom click on it and then click on the Flag (Waypoints) those waypoints will now appear in the box above.. Pennsylvania.. Now at the top click EDIT>Select All... right click and drag and drop to the PA Waypoints List.. do the same for the route icon and then same for the logs/Tracks.
Now all your data is located in the Folder while the waypoints, routes, tracks appear in their own list. Now you can share data from any of those list to other lists or folder by drag or drop or Send TO: Copying the data between lists will keep the same properties...however duplicate will do the same, however should you can the properties for the data it will only appear changed in that list... but copying the data...any changes of properties of the waypoint/track/route date will change in all list where the data is shared...

Hope this helps and hope it post this time... BaseCamp is easier than this forum to learn smile

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Basecamp v Mapsource

Norwood wrote:
bear007 wrote:

Basecamp still doesn't do the simple things.

It still dumps all your waypoints, routes and trip logs into one list. They are different and as Mapsource did, should be separated from each other.

It still doesn't allow you to have categories for your waypoints. You have to wait until you send it to the GPS to set a category.

It still doesn't allow you to sort your trip logs in order by date when you have more than 1 month involved. I use the trip logs regularly and its a pain.

Just my thoughts.

Don't know what happen to my first reply...but here goes again...
For this example: Create a Folder called Pennsylvania and now create a List under it call PA Waypoints and create another list call PA Routes and another call PA Tracks... create your trip with the Pennsylvania folder highlighted (Blue)with your routes and waypoints going to and from PA and around PA ... now on the Search Icon located on lower left column at bottom click on it and then click on the Flag (Waypoints) those waypoints will now appear in the box above.. Pennsylvania.. Now at the top click EDIT>Select All... right click and drag and drop to the PA Waypoints List.. do the same for the route icon and then same for the logs/Tracks.
Now all your data is located in the Folder while the waypoints, routes, tracks appear in their own list. Now you can share data from any of those list to other lists or folder by drag or drop or Send TO: Copying the data between lists will keep the same properties...however duplicate will do the same, however should you can the properties for the data it will only appear changed in that list... but copying the data...any changes of properties of the waypoint/track/route date will change in all list where the data is shared...

Hope this helps and hope it post this time... BaseCamp is easier than this forum to learn smile

I know I can manually separate all the data to different lists, a monthly list for trip logs, etc. The point is Mapsource automatically does all this when the data is transferred from the device. Basecamp requires one to waste their time manually performing what I consider housekeeping work. It doesn't even understand what categories for waypoints are. Why design a program that ignores all the organization designed into GPS units themselves.

I know we're just beating a dead horse and that it's already been done more than a few times here. Basecamp may have a few advantages but it just ignores the basics, and there is no reason to do so.

Thnx

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Love hate relationship

I have got the hang of BaseCamp now. What I did was uninstalled Mapsource, and made myself use BC.
There are things I still love in MS that will never be in BC, but I have found that there's always a work round.

My advise is stop using Mapsource, Basecamp will be OK after a few weeks of use. If you have a problem; I'm sure that someone else has had it before you. So just search here on the web and in time you'll find the all answers you need.

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Basecamp Vs. Mapsource

I use both Basecamp and Mapsource regularly and agree with other contributors who say each has it's strengths and weaknesses.

I recently bought a Dezl760 and was unable to get Mapsource to recognize the unit. It works perfectly with Basecamp. I called Garmin Tech support and was informed that The Dezl760 and other new Garmin units will not work with Mapsource. Garmin is phasing out Mapsource and will soon stop supporting it. The tech told me Garmin is well aware that Basecamp is not popular with many users and is working to address customer complaints.

Mapsource

bdhsfz6 wrote:

I use both Basecamp and Mapsource regularly and agree with other contributors who say each has it's strengths and weaknesses.

I recently bought a Dezl760 and was unable to get Mapsource to recognize the unit. It works perfectly with Basecamp. I called Garmin Tech support and was informed that The Dezl760 and other new Garmin units will not work with Mapsource. Garmin is phasing out Mapsource and will soon stop supporting it. The tech told me Garmin is well aware that Basecamp is not popular with many users and is working to address customer complaints.

Put your unit in mass storage mode and it will connect to Mapsource https://support.garmin.com/support/searchSupport/case.faces?...

See post http://www.poi-factory.com/node/39948 next to last one to get in mass storage mode.

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Thanks

Thanks for the update

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Looks like

Looks like I might (just might) try BaseCamp.
I can't make myself delete MapSource because I do so love using it, but the crashes are a good reason to look at BaseCamp.

Hopefully Garmin will try to make BaseCamp better. smile

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Crashing

mgarledge wrote:

Looks like I might (just might) try BaseCamp.
I can't make myself delete MapSource because I do so love using it, but the crashes are a good reason to look at BaseCamp.

Hopefully Garmin will try to make BaseCamp better. smile

Mapsource has not crashed since the 2014.10 update. Am I lucky or what?

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BC or Mapsource

Maybe I need to look at the videos from Garmin for BC, but when I want to go on a 2,500 mile trip all I seem to be able to enter in BC is the start and end point.

With Mapsource I can add all the via point I want to in addition to start and end points.

As for a program crashing, I believe it is more caused by your computer thsn the software you are using. Could be memory related or/and more.

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building routes

Melaqueman wrote:

Maybe I need to look at the videos from Garmin for BC, but when I want to go on a 2,500 mile trip all I seem to be able to enter in BC is the start and end point.

With Mapsource I can add all the via point I want to in addition to start and end points.

As for a program crashing, I believe it is more caused by your computer thsn the software you are using. Could be memory related or/and more.

Building routes or trips is easy in Base Camp if you are willing to play a few games with it. First off, don't use the wizard. That only allows A to B type routes. I use the route tool - it's the one that looks like 3 connected boxes - and use the pan and zoom to find my starting point. From there, pan the map to a way point you want, anchor a way point, then continue on until you have your route layed out.

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Thanks

for the announcement.

Great memory

Melaqueman wrote:

Maybe I need to look at the videos from Garmin for BC, but when I want to go on a 2,500 mile trip all I seem to be able to enter in BC is the start and end point.

With Mapsource I can add all the via point I want to in addition to start and end points.

As for a program crashing, I believe it is more caused by your computer thsn the software you are using. Could be memory related or/and more.

Not my computer causing crashes. I digitize embroidery designs and needed a lot of memory, graphic card, etc.
Several people on here have said Map source crashes for them also.
As stated above maybe the latest map update has helped the crashes. Will have to see.

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Thanks for the information. I gave up on BaseCamp long ago but will try again after seeing this post.

Will try that

Box Car wrote:

Building routes or trips is easy in Base Camp if you are willing to play a few games with it. First off, don't use the wizard. That only allows A to B type routes. I use the route tool - it's the one that looks like 3 connected boxes - and use the pan and zoom to find my starting point. From there, pan the map to a way point you want, anchor a way point, then continue on until you have your route layed out.

Thanks Box Car, I will try and see what happens following your suggestion. Can I use my saved waypoints this way and insert them?

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Depending on the zoom

Melaqueman wrote:
Box Car wrote:

Building routes or trips is easy in Base Camp if you are willing to play a few games with it. First off, don't use the wizard. That only allows A to B type routes. I use the route tool - it's the one that looks like 3 connected boxes - and use the pan and zoom to find my starting point. From there, pan the map to a way point you want, anchor a way point, then continue on until you have your route layed out.

Thanks Box Car, I will try and see what happens following your suggestion.

You WILL have to go into the displayed route and move way points to get them on the correct road and/or lanes. BC will always try to set the way point to an address. If the address is not right by the road, you will miss the point and the unit will continuously reroute you back to the "missed" point.

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new 2455

I had to install Base Camp to exchange information with my new GPS, as it does not talk to Mapsource. What I miss the most with Base Camp is that I cannot make a route on the computer and download it to the GPS nor upload a route from the GPS to Base Camp. Very disappointed in this loss of functionality as for me, planning a long trip on the computer is a lot easier than using the unit itself. Also, this means I cannot make a route once and share it with other route capable GPS units - I have two units and would like to share routes.

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Export your route to a file

rigel wrote:

I had to install Base Camp to exchange information with my new GPS, as it does not talk to Mapsource. What I miss the most with Base Camp is that I cannot make a route on the computer and download it to the GPS nor upload a route from the GPS to Base Camp. Very disappointed in this loss of functionality as for me, planning a long trip on the computer is a lot easier than using the unit itself. Also, this means I cannot make a route once and share it with other route capable GPS units - I have two units and would like to share routes.

Export your route from BaseCamp to a folder on your computer, this will make a .gpx file, then you can use it with BaseCamp and MapSource.

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Just to note that this is

Just to note that this is old news, but BaseCamp was updated to 4.2.2 last week. Some of its fixes appear to be related to routes.

Changes made from version 4.2.1 to 4.2.2:

  • Fixed start-up issue when opening some map installations
  • Fixed start-up issue with opening Trip Planner
  • Fixed various issues with upgrading legacy databases
  • Fixed issue searching for named trails
  • Fixed activity based routing
  • Fixed issue with editing routes received from a device
  • Fixed issue when using find
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Just in case

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

Just to note that this is old news, but BaseCamp was updated to 4.2.2 last week...

I tried to update and after clicking "Apply Update Now," I received an "Error launching installer."

I retried the update including a PC reboot with no luck.

In case this happens to anyone else, I found the suggestion on the web to go to the Basecamp web page and click the Download button as if I were doing an initial installation:

http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4435

All worked well and I now have the latest BaseCamp. (Someday I'll actually need to try using it for something rather than stay in my comfort zone known as Mapsource.)

Map Transfer Issue

My biggest complaint with Basecamp is the cumbersome way it deals with transferring maps to GPS units. I frequently download and use 3rd party topo maps from www.gpsfiledepot.com. While both Basecamp and Mapsource read and display these files, I have yet to figure out how to transfer selected pieces of these maps to my GPS using Basecamp. With Mapsource, it was a snap to do using the "map" tool.

Re: 4.2.2 Update - Mac

I had to go to Garmin''s download site for the update... Basecamp itself, nor traditional mac update methods didn't show the 4.2.2 update as available for me.

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Newer Nuvi units

Garmin has changed the type of drive which is recognized on your computer. Your new unit is probably appearing as a portable drive. You can change the device to a mass storage device. The usual dance involves pressing the speed indicator which takes you to the trip odometer, speedometer, etc. Press and hold the speedometer until a developer screen comes up, look for mass storage and change the setting.

Upon restarting, Mapsource will be able to connect with your unit.

Cannot Install BaseCamp

I tried to update BaseCamp and got "MSI ERROR file not found" rebooted, same code. Uninstalled BaseCamp, downloaded the install for the new version, same error code. Any ideas?
Thanks.

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Fixed it

Download BaseCamp.exe file, than use a compress tool like 7-zip

right mouse click on the file to open file and see elements in the exec file

look for the BCMAIN.msi file, double click, it will then install,

after you can then go back to the normal BaseCamp.exe

it will then install nicely

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Still using..

map source is still my software of choice.

I love MapSource

and hate BaseCamp. But am forced to use it since the 4790 can't use MapSource.

Agree

allbizz wrote:

map source is still my software of choice.

Just can't get into Basecamp.

Agree

I don't like My Collection in Basecamp. I have separate Mapsource files named with date and destination. Easy access to tracks and saved favorites for each trip.

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Thanks for the comments, no thanks on the new version

Thanks to all these reviews I won't bother downloading the update. Lack of support for waypoint categories makes it a non-starter for me. Mapsource works fine on my Windows 8-64 machine.

Also, I like being able to use City Navigator on my pc without plugging my gps in.

Exactly

To quote bear007:

"It doesn't even understand what categories for waypoints are. Why design a program that ignores all the organization designed into GPS units themselves.

I know we're just beating a dead horse and that it's already been done more than a few times here. Basecamp may have a few advantages but it just ignores the basics, and there is no reason to do so." (ENDQUOTE)

EXACTLY! And I know this will bring on the flames from certain forum members, but after all these years with MapSource just exactly what does Garmin think we need?

And I HAVE tried to use Basecamp for routing to the other family GPS, which is routeable, and could not for the life of me figure out why it was designed to be so cumbersome. The software guys at Garmin must be laughing their collective butts off....

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think about it

KenSny wrote:

To quote bear007:

"It doesn't even understand what categories for waypoints are. Why design a program that ignores all the organization designed into GPS units themselves.

Think about the program name for a moment. Then ask yourself "When have I ever thought of where I'm starting for a car trip as my base camp?"

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you're right

Waiting for them to change the "HOME" icon on the GPS unit to "BASE", then it will all come together. grin

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Have you looked at

KenSny wrote:

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And I HAVE tried to use Basecamp for routing to the other family GPS, which is routeable, and could not for the life of me figure out why it was designed to be so cumbersome. The software guys at Garmin must be laughing their collective butts off....

Training videos for Basecamp
Basecamp video tutorials for Beginners

I find BaseCamp harder to

I find BaseCamp harder to use then MapSource.

Good to know.

Good to know.

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Many Thanks...

for the useful update.

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on the fence..

Mapsource is cut 0and dry. I'm still no where near mastering basecamp.

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