Border Patrol Checkpoints

I'm just curious, but what do you see as the benefit to having such a POI file? It seems to me those locations would only matter to people who might be trying to avoid them. And if you have a reason for wanting to avoid a Border Patrol checkpoint, then I'm not sure I'd want to be involved in giving you the information you need to do that successfully.

Cheech and Chung had it installed on their Ice Creme truck GPS. Not positive...

I would think that they are not publicized even though they are permanent.

From a data sheet on Border patrols and interior checkpoints.
"Permanent checkpoints are placed at locations that are intended to maximize the chances to detect illegal immigrants and smugglers who have crossed the border illegally and who are seeking to reach large population centers, such as Los Angeles, California, or Phoenix, Arizona. Where possible, according to the Border Patrol, permanent checkpoints are placed after several highways or roads join, so that anyone intending to exit the area into the interior of the country must transit them."

When I lived in S.Cal, they had "travelling" checkpoints.

I didn't elude to the movable ones because the op only asked about permanent.

Someone mentioned them (?)

The only permanent ones when I lived there (90-96) were on the border itself.

If I'm already on this side of the border and all my papers are in order what is the need to have this POI file?

Is it just in case I may get the urge to smuggle someone across?

Felix Krull said in part..

And your point is WHAT..!!..? And my wanting to avoid a "Red Light Camera Location or Speed Trap" (as a example of other POI's here), tells you I'm and looking to do........ ?

It's quite obvious (by your above statement), that you think something notorious would be the ONLY reason for someone wanting to know locations of BP checkpoints.

As someone who was born and brought up in this country, I don't have to justify to anyone (let alone MY government) why I want to avoid BP Checkpoints, Red Light Cameras, or Speed Traps.

It's none of any ones business (let alone MY Governments) why I'm doing so as long as it's NOT being done for a "ILLEGAL" reason!

Nuvi1300WTGPS

I hit about 6 or 7 checkpoints when we visited AZ in the Tucson-Tombstone areas several years ago. They cost me maybe 2-3 minutes in time each which I consider a cheap price to pay to keep the the illegals contained. I'm not just talking about immigrants either. How about drugs, money, guns etc too !
I have no problem with them ! (the checkpoints that is ! )

Whoa. Calm down.

Ya gotta admit, when someone is looking like they are deliberately avoiding the law, it looks very suspicious.

Can I also get the POI file for all the tunnels along the US-Mexico border?

or without lights?

With lights, air conditioning, and a railroad track to move heavy objects from one end to the other. (Like luggage. )

I just think the whole inland border patrol checkpoints go way behind the intended purpose of keeping our borders safe. There is no probable cause to force me to make an unconstitutional stop and be subjected to drug sniffing dogs. The only thing these stops do is harass mom and Joe pop who just happen to have a joint in the car that they got from a state sanctioned marijuana dispensary to treat whatever ails them. Like was posted earlier any hardcore smuggler or serious threat to our national security ain't going through the checkpoint to begin with so lets leave the responsible marijuana smokers alone.

Keep up the comments. Love it!

I had a chance to be in country that would fulfill your dream. It was called DDR (aka East Germany). I used to work there for a few weeks. And was warned that every time I leave place where I live I must have with me passport with valid visa, temporary ID card and one additional paper from company I worked for that stated my reason to be in DDR. And any traveling "for tourist purposes" were frown upon by police. And it was right before fall of Berlin Wall.

I had once idea to go to city near Austrian border. I used train and when I got off almost immediately I had police near me asking what I'm doing here. Took about 30 min to explain an be allowed to go. Later I was told that it's stupid to look policeman straight into eyes when he is looking at you. Nobody was doing that there.

Sadly DDR doesn't exist anymore so people like you can go there and see what they want to introduce into USA. But for some unknown reason East Germans aren't missing this heaven. Even if they "have nothing to fear if they weren't breaking The Law".

While traveling I have only hit one inland check point and it took only about thirty seconds. I think mainly they want to hear you speak and see how nervous you seem. They didn't ask for any ID, just ask me where I was heading and said have a nice day.

Do you live in a border state impacted by illegals? We pay for their healthcare, and other things. Many carry bales of drugs as come through the desert, break into homes along the way. We have lovely signs in the desert, put there by our gov, telling us they can't protect us from the armed coyotes and the bands of illegals they are escorting.

At one time we had border protection, didn't stop all of them, at least it was not a flood as it has been lately. We've had ranchers killed, fences cut tons of garbage left behind, But then its not PC to insist laws still be enforced to protect American's the way they were for years before this new wave of elite took over.

So lets get a POI file on unprotected homes with jewlery and money too so when they avoid the BP they can also pick up some spending cash too!

Can you blame them? They know they have a ready market here.

The Red Light/Speed Cameras are revenue generators, IMO they are the officer, judge/jury and executioner all in one little device, with no opportunity to question your accuser.
Border Patrol(s) are not even close to being on that level.

Sorry, but asking about a POI for BP seems ill-advised.

I would think Homeland Security would be interested in anybody downloading that one.
Only reason to need it would be somebody who doesn't want to get stopped.

Not something I would be interested in.

I have seen first hand what you are saying, while visiting a friend in Yuma we did some geocaching on the desert north of Yuma. We ran across two places where we could see that a large group of people had camped there. Garbage, empty water bottles and even some articles of clothing. Lately he tells me he won't go on the desert anymore without being armed.

I work with someone who's son was border patrol for a while. He had to make a choice 1 day (as usual). Stop the illegals that were scattering, or stop the truck that was suspected of carrying drugs. He chose the truck.

Well Louie. It seems from all of the responses that no one is working on this. Apparently this poi file is all yours to produce.

OK, I see no reason for most folks to know where the check-points are - BUT!

There are lots of folks out there that would just LOVE to have all the locations easily downloadable for the GPS in their all terrain 4 wheel drive vehicle used for smuggling dope or people.

I say let them find out themselves.

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It was the right time to take action.

One reason an innocent person would want to know where the checkpoints are is to simply know what they can expect on the highway.

+1 !!

I would use them all the time as a trucker crossing Canadian and usa borders all the time

San Clemente, CA I-5 - Border Patrol CheckpointMile Marker 67
The San Clemente Border Patrol Station maintains a full-time traffic checkpoint on the northbound lanes of I-5.
Mile Marker 67 The San Clemente Border Patrol Station maintains a full-time traffic checkpoint on the northbound lanes of I-5. It is one of seven stations in the San Diego Border Patrol Sector and 1 of 4 checpoints
Temecula, CA I-15 - Border Patrol CheckpointMile Marker 54 - Checks traffic going north on I-15. It is also right at the end of San Diego county going into Riverside county. Will also set up temporary stations on Rainbow Canyon Rd/CA 395. mo...Mile Marker 54 -
Checks traffic going north on I-15. It is also right at the end of San Diego county going into Riverside county. Will also set up temporary stations on Rainbow Canyon Rd/CA 395.
Oak Grove CA - Border Patrol CheckpointTemporary checkpoint placed occasionaly , unable to locate on google maps. Placed near Oak Grove along Highway 79Temporary checkpoint placed occasionaly , unable to locate on google maps. Placed near Oak Grove along Highway 79
Elmore Ranch, CA - Border Patrol Checkpoint Highway 86 CALocated near de intersection of Highway 78 and 86.
Checks Northbound trafic on Highway 86 Original Post more info »Located near de intersection of Highway 78 and 86.Checks Northbound trafic on Highway 86
Highway 86 CA - Border Patrol CheckpointTemporary Checkpoints are placed along Highway 86. Checks northbound traffic.
Location could not be found in google map.Temporary Checkpoints are placed along Highway 86. Checks northbound traffic.
Location could not be found in google map.
Highway 111 CA - Border Patrol CheckpointTemporary Border patrol checkpoints are placed allong Highway 111. Checks northbound traffic. Location could not be found in google mapsTemporary Border patrol checkpoints are placed allong Highway 111. Checks northbound traffic. Location could not be found in google maps
Fortuna Foothils, AZ I-8 - Border Patrol CheckpointMile Marker 17 - I-8.
Located 3 miles East of Fortuna Foothills.
Checks Eastbound trafic.Permanent Border Patrol CheckpointMile Marker 17 - I-8.
Located 3 miles East of Fortuna Foothills.
Checks Eastbound trafic.Permanent Border Patrol Checkpoint
Highway 95, AZ - Border Patrol CheckpointHighway 95 northbound. North of Kinter AZ
Highway 95 northbound. North of Kinter AZ
Stanwix, AZ I-8 - Border Patrol CheckpointMile marker 78, I-8.
11 miles west of Dateland AZ
Checkpoint is not visible with google maps.Mile marker 78, I-8.
11 miles west of Dateland AZ
Checkpoint is not visible with google maps.
Why, AZ - Border Patrol CheckpintThis checkpoint is located about 20 miles north of the US/Mexico border. more info »This checkpoint is located about 20 miles north of the US/Mexico border.
more info »
Agua Linda, AZ 1-19 - Border Patrol Checkpoint, AZ, USAMile Marker 42, I-19.
Temporary checkpoint placed at exit 42. This station is mobile and may move about I-19. Government has proposed a temporary checkpoint between Nogales ant Tuscon. No word on it...Mile Marker 42, I-19.Temporary checkpoint placed at exit 42. This station is mobile and may move about I-19. Government has proposed a temporary checkpoint between Nogales ant Tuscon. No word on its exact location.
Whetstone AZ - Border Patrol CeckpointLocated somwhere south of Whetestone AZ on Highway 90. Checks northbound traffic since 2007, excact location was not located.Located somwhere south of Whetestone AZ on Highway 90. Checks northbound traffic since 2007, excact location was not located.
Tombstone, AZ - Border Patrol CheckpointCheckpoint located somewhere north of Tombstone. Has been checking northbound traffic on Highway 80 since 2007. Exact location not found.Checkpoint located somewhere north of Tombstone. Has been checking northbound traffic on Highway 80 since 2007. Exact location not found.
I-25, NM - Border Patrol CheckpointNear Mile Post 26.
Checks all norhbound trafic.
Located 25 miles north of Las Cruces NM.Near Mile Post 26.
Checks all norhbound trafic.
Located 25 miles north of Las Cruces NM.
Sierra Blanca, TX I-10 - Border Patrol Checkpoint Mile Marker 102 - I-10
Checks all Eastbound traffic.
5 miles West of Sierra Blanca Original Post more info » Mile Marker 102 - I-10Checks all Eastbound traffic. 5 miles West of Sierra Blanca
Marfa, TX - Border patrol checkpointSouth of Marfa TX on Highway 67. Checks all northbound traffic. Located north of Presidio/Ojinaga borderSouth of Marfa TX on Highway 67. Checks all northbound traffic. Located north of Presidio/Ojinaga border
Marathon, TX - Border Patrol CheckpointChecks all northbound traffic on Highway 385. Located south of Marathon TX Original Post more info »Checks all northbound traffic on Highway 385. Located south of Marathon TX
Eagle Pass, TX - Border Patrol checkpointNear Eagle Pass, TX Checks trafic going east bound on Highway 57
Laredo, TX I-35 - Border Patrol CheckpointLocated 24 miles north of Laredo TX border. Checks all norhbound traffic.
Located 24 miles north of Laredo TX border. Checks all norhbound traffic.
Falfurrias TX - Border Patrol CheckpointLocated near Falfurrias. Checks northbound traffic on Highway 281. There are temporary checkpoints placed south of this location. Between 25 - 75 norh of the border.

Another fixed location is going east from Laredo. Tx on Route 59 to Houston. Check eastbound traffic, approx. 20 miles from Laredo.

Isn't that right near the Bruni cutoff? Or maybe Aguilares?

Sorry to say I have gone by there twice and had no idea where the actual location is. I am only guessing at the 20 mile distance east of Laredo.

If I were an "illegal alien" who has learned to speak English well enough and I get to a checkpoint and they ask me if I am a citizen and I say yes and they let me go on my way, well that checkpoint is useless. It impedes my egress to travel my country without having to talk to law enforcement. I have nothing to hide, I am a born in the USA man and proud of it, but the border in down south, not on a road out of the white sands missile range where I work. I always refuse to answer their questions and they just let me go

If they are not asking for a passport just turn them in. This is a security breach.

Every place we have been since the passport has been required it was checked thoroughly.

When we would go to Nogales Mexico and walk across the borders they would just ask questions but that was before the passport was required.

I passed the checkpoint he was referring to this past summer. It is well inside the US border. (probably 20 miles or so) No passport required. The officer saw me in a 2002 Lexus ES 300 with NY plates alone, and just waved me by.

NO!... and I fail to understand why you would think that way.

As a US born (as well as many generations of my family), FREE American, I feel that it's NO darn business of our suppressive government (Border Patrol) as to what I'm doing, where I'm going, or where I've been. If they don't like it... tough

It seems to me that there are many "sheeple" in the US that feel the same as you and are part of what's the problem in America today.

I find it interesting that soo many "sheeple" think "Cops Can Do NO Wrong!".

Nuvi1300WTGPS

I have been through those same checkpoints many times South of the Tucson area where I live and I cannot recall it taking more than 15 seconds and most times I just slowed down and they just waved me though with just a wave.

They have caught many illegals and drug smugglers trying to pass though the checkpoints north of the border. In the last neighborhood I lived in there was a rash of home break ins and vehicle break ins and thefts and one day there was a huge raid that involved many federal, State and local police groups. As it turned out a number of illegals had rented one of the houses in our area and were surveilling the area for when people left there homes or vehicles parked outside and quickly struck. There were neighbors who were gone less than a half hour to drop their kids off at school and by the time they got back their house had been burglarized.

I thought you were talking about border Patrol for Texas/Mexico, New York/Canada and places like that.

Now that I realize what you are talking about I have gone through one going back to Texas after a trip to Arizona. I think it was at the Arizona border, not sure just where. It was about 20 years ago.

We were visiting my brother in Tucson and had picked some cactus that was not suppose to be picked. We were in our car following my parents who were towing a travel trailer. We put the cactus in the back of the trailer and didn't tell my parents. They were stopped and the patrol talked to them. We held our breath as we watch them being questioned. I think they even looked in the trailer but didn't go inside of it. So glad we didn't tell them as my mother would have told them. Needless to say we never told my parents the cactus was in their trailer.

Check points are useless as the ones caught are not deported. They are taken in, information exchanged, court date given and sent on their way with paperwork in hand. What percentage would you guess come back for their court appearance to see whether they can stay. Yup, you got < 3%.