How come I can't see the icon symbols of the different locations I have downloaded...Some only have dots instead of the business's symbol?
Follow the FAQ on adding icons and sounds.
Like the FAQ says, newer models do not support .MP3 files, only .WAV files. Here is a link to convert the MP3's found on this site to WAV's
I have the icons in a folder...I dont really want the alert sounds just the icon on map...sorry I'm not understanding how to do this...thanks for your patience
I have the icons in a folder...I dont really want the alert sounds just the icon on map...sorry I'm not understanding how to do this...thanks for your patience
First off, welcome to posting at The Factory. Posting questions is the way to learn, oftentimes by being directed to a web site FAQ by the folks who respond.
You can easily add icons to your Custom POI files without an audio. The faq listed earlier in this thread--and this one:
explain how it's done. The most important part is to change the file name of the icon bmp file to exactly match that of the POI file (except that the POI files has a .csv or .gpx extension while the icon will have a .bmp extension); e.g., if installing a POI file called CrackerBarrel, you will download and keep on your computer in one directory these files:
When running POI Loader to install these files to your GPS from your computer, both the POI and its icon will be installed.
Report back if you have more questions and let us know when you succeed.
Sometimes, the problem is double extensions.
So, in addition to the advice given above, make sure that your PC (and I am assuming it is a PC rather than a mac) shows extensions. You should not be "adding" extensions - they should be there already.
If your PC does not show extensions, then follow the instructions in http://www.poi-factory.com/node/30393
so change or rename file and add .bmp to each icon file name like starsbucks.bmp?
Change the file name. It needs to be identical to the Custom POI file name other than the extension.
Do NOT add .bmp to the end. Most likely it is already there.
Be sure to have the file extensions NOT hidden on your computer so you can check.
I'm using fire fox...where do i go to see if file extensions are not hidden?
follow the instructions in http://www.poi-factory.com/node/30393
Yes, this is something that you do on your computer's file browser not on your internet browser.
What operating system and version are you using on your computer?
To avoid problems, there are settings in Windows Explorer that you need to verify are set to specific values..
Hold down the “Windows Key” and press “E”. Windows Explorer should open.
In the Menu bar, left click on Tools. Then left click on Folder Options. The Folder Options dialog should open.
NOTE: If you do not see the Menu Bar, press the ALT key to display the Menu Bar.
Left click on the View tab. The Advanced Settings list should now be visible.
Make sure that the radio button next to “show hidden files and folders” is selected.
Make sure that check box next to “Hide extensions for known file types” is NOT selected
Left click on OK at the bottom of the Folder Options dialog box to save your selections.
We want to make sure that you can see extensions and hidden files/folders, as this will be important in backups and managing POI files.
that must have been where the problem was...both boxes where checked or unchecked wrong...i have the poi's downloaded along with icons on desktop...i have entered them into gps...now do i try downloading them icons again to gps?
The files and icons get loaded together using poi loader. In a folder you would have something like the following.
The "Food" and "Stores" are the folder you point poi loader to. They become a category in extras on the gps. It makes it easier to find what you want. There are similar ways, but this is the way I do it so I can load what I want.
I want to suggest a refinement to the instructions from pwohlrab above.
Many of us create a folder on our PC named something like "MyPOIs". This means that there is (usually) only one folder - MyPOIs - to which you would point POI Loader when you are on the 5th POI Loader screen
screen 1: Welcome
screen 2: Device or PC?
screen 3: Specific Device or PC Location
screen 4: Install or remove
screen 5: Point to POI folder
Within the MyPOIs folder, one can have one level of sub-folders. The names of these sub-folder become "categories" when you look at "Custom POIs".
These sub-folders might look like:
Then when you went to "Custom POIs" on your GPS, you would see
as the first three entries
As I recall, you can have up to 32 sub-folders (the ones with names like "food" and "stores")
Within each subfolder, you can have as many sets of POI files as you wish - where a "set" is defined as a combination of .csv/.gpx, .bmp, and .wav files.
If you did not want any alerts, then the "set" would contain only a .csv or .gpx file.
If you wanted audible alerts, then the "set" would contain both a .csv or .gpx file along with a .wav file.
If you wanted only visual alerts, then the "set" would contain both a .csv or .gpx file and a .bmp file.
If you wanted both visual as well as audible alerts, then a "set" would contain a .csv or .gpx file as well as a .bmp file plus a .wav file.
Note: some older units can use .mp3 files but I since most new units can only accept .wav files (and you need a specific version of sox.exe in the POI Loader folder for them to work), I have omitted .mp3 files from this discussion
Oop's. I missed one step. I forgot the upper level folder "MyPois". The way I suggested would not create a category.
Thanks for catching that!
I'm sorry...I'm totally confused...all I know is I downloaded several POIS to GPS...then added some fav. icons too...when I got to using Gps...all I seen were dots at the locations...tried and made adjustments to windows explorer on showing extensions like I was told...downloaded to gps again the icons...still see the dots...
I've been saving them to desktop...then having PoI loader find them there...not makn a specific folder
What I would suggest that you do is create a C:\MyPOIs folder on your PC.
Now, please move only one POI file from your desktop into this C:\MyPOIs folder.
I do not care which POI file you move there, but only move one file. AND - make sure it contains points of interest that you can easily drive to to see if the icon shows up.
Now add to the C:\MyPOIs folder any .bmp file - it does not have to match the POI file because all we are trying to do now is to make ANY icon work.
In the C:\MyPOIs folder you should now have two files.
Your files will, of course, not have the ame "somepoi" but a name that you chose. Note that the name is exactly the same except for the extension.
Now run POI Loader and then go for a drive.
Make sure your GPS is zoomed into 200 feet.
Thanks jgermann... I'll try that see what happens...maybe I'm zoomed out to far
I wondered about that. Thought I was confused.
I tried a folder....still gettn dots instead of icon symbols...I am gettn alerts at the top of the screen i wasn't gettn b4...the icons preloaded on garmin only show up half the time...but the banks... gas stations...food...show up but only as what was preloaded on gps...not the actual business symbol...I'm gonna add to the folder all my saved places
I hope you will follow my suggestion that you load only two files with POI Loader. One of the files will have a .csv extension and the other file will have a .bmp extension. The characters to the left of each extension must be the same.
Download the .bmp from http://www.poi-factory.com/node/11718 and put it in the folder with the one .csv file you are going to load.
I REALIZE this is not the Icon you want but I am trying to make sure you have a working icon. Remember you are going to give it the same name to the left of the .bmp extension as the .csv file anyway (so what it is makes no difference to see if it works)
When you have the .bmp downlaoded, double click on it and make sure that you see it. Likely it will open in "Windows Picture and Fax Viewer" and be very small, but it is what it is.
Now, use POI Loader to point to the folder containing ONLY the .csv and .bmp files and transfer those points of interest to your GPS.
Let us know.
I never gave it the same name...ok I'll get this yet...thanks for your patience lol.
when I transfer to gps from poi loader...do I add new files or delete previous pois when promited by poi loader?
Jgermann is trying to get this by being very basic. Once it works, then we can expand it to what you want.
Well believe I got the icons workn...is there anyway I can make them a little larger? I guess I zoom out aways when I'm driving...can't get use to zooming in yet...guess I like knowing whats ahead sooner lol...I was gettn alerts at the top of map when I approached my POI'S...now not gettn them? Anyway thanks for all u guys help...saved me some time
Glad to know you got things working.
Unfortunately, you can not get larger icons.
The size of the icon is pretty much fixed because of different screens between the units. There is another way to get the icon to display when not zoomed in, and that's setting a proximity or distance alert. You can get icons to show with an alert distance equal to 1 unit (feet or meters). The icon will display if it is near the street you are on while heading towards it. You'll need to have a better understanding of what alerts are and the different types before charging off and setting an alert on all your POI. Print out and study the POI Loader help file. It gives a good explanation of the different alerts and how they are used. Once you have a good understanding of how they are supposed to work, then try to experiment a little.
Ok now that I have icons going...There is another way to get the icon to display when not zoomed in, and that's setting a proximity or distance alert. How do I go about doing that...have a nuvi 3590?Also how can u get alerts at the top of the map...was getting them at one time...when u approach POIS?
Ok now that I have icons going...There is another way to get the icon to display when not zoomed in, and that's setting a proximity or distance alert. How do I go about doing that...have a nuvi 3590?
Did you read through the POI Loader Help file? One section starts out "Using Manual Mode
If you need to customize speed information for your Custom POIs, use Manual mode. Manual mode allows you to specify the default speed and proximity alert information as needed for each data file you are loading."
Thanks that was easy Box Car...going to drive n check it out
Wow...I had no idea. That makes no sense at all. .mp3 files take up less storage space than .wav files. What is Garmin thinking?
I guess news take a long time to reach Canada, its been like that for a while.
Well I added the alert sounds...I lost the alert notification on top of the map...then deleted POIS and then added them again...now lost the icons...I'm not really interested in having the sound alerts...I just want the icons and alert notification on top of the map...seems the icons that were preloaded on garmin...don't work or show when I added my custom POIS? Is there a certain sequence when adding new POIS to previous ones stored on gps? When u add POIS or manually set alerts distance...u lose ur icons from previous POIS...thanks for ur help!
Your unit can have two different buckets for POI and icons. One is the built-ins, these are part of the map data and are not alterable. They is what they is - and for the most part are woefully inadequate and rife with errors.
The other bucket is for the ones you load yourself as Custom POI. These are the ones we have been helping you get set up. With the Custom POI, usually found under Extras, you can add alert sounds and icons. You can also set both speed and proximity alerts for these.
Your unit, one of the latest 3XXX series, only uses .WAV sounds - and those are "not supported" according to Garmin. It was several years ago, before I became a member (and I've been prowling this board since 2008) someone discovered Garmin did include a function in a version of POI Loader that would open an external program that would read and convert a WAV file into an alert that would be loaded. The command line embedded in POI Loader only works with specific versions of the Sound Exchange (SOX) program which is why we tell everyone you have to use version 14.0.1.
As SOX is not a Garmin program, they will not guarantee it will always work so therefore, only MP3 sounds are "supported" even though there are no units being manufactured with MP3 capability.
Alert sounds are an option that can be added to a POI file. They are not required unless you are creating a TourGuide. If you do not have an announcement, the unit will "Ding" or "Bong" when the POI alert is triggered. Typically, the unit will sound its alert when first entering the defined proximity of a location and after every stop until you reach the location. Speed alerts are different. The POI Loader Help file doesn't do that great of a job of explaining how they work, only how to set them up. A speed alert will sound only once if you are at or below the trigger speed. It will repeat if you stop or are above the trigger speed. It will continue to repeat - and become very annoying - until you slow down to the alert speed or below. You WILL be driven bonkers if you have a speed alert at some low number because of the constant repeating of the alert.
POI Loader, when it "calls" SOX will only look in the same location the POI Loader program resides. So when you install SOX, it must be in the same directory or folder where POILoader.EXE is found, otherwise it will not work.
As to mixing both the built-in and custom POI, I hadn't noticed the built-ins stopped displaying when I had custom POI installed - and my 885 will display the built-ins. I had just quit using the built-ins, so I never noticed they were gone. With Auto Zoom working the way it does, icons normally only show when triggered at highway speed. My alert distance for Rest Areas is 5300 feet, so I will see the icon displayed for more than a mile. They will pop up on the map when you are traveling along city streets only if they are along your route of travel.
I'm really not wanting alert sounds...it could get real annoying...I just want the icons or symbols of business and the alert on top of map that shows when approaching POI...I had all that working at one time...til I added sound alerts...then it all got complicated again...do I open POI loader...remove previous POI's...then add them again?...but when I do that then I have to manually add alert distance...then my icons go away...is there a particular sequence to add both the icons and alerts on top of map? Again thanks for your help!
I just want the icons or symbols of business and the alert on top of map that shows when approaching POI.
When you use the phrase "on top of the map", are you using those words to indicate that the icon appear "overlayed" on the map or are you saying that there is something on the "top" (versus bottom or side) of the map.
Are you speaking of the oval that alerts you to the upcoming POI.
The reason I am asking is that I want to make sure we are answering your specific question.
Did you make a backup?
I have a 3590LMT. When I approach a Red Light Camera I get an icon on the left side of the screen,also the top bar of the screen gives me the location of the camera. I think that is what he might of meant.
I'm really not wanting alert sounds...it could get real annoying...I just want the icons or symbols of business and the alert on top of map that shows when approaching POI.
At least on my 40...
If you want a popup box and icon, you have to have a proximity alert in your poi file, plus a bmp and a wav file. However, if you don't want an audio alert with it, use a wav file that has nothing but silence. I just sent an email to email@example.com with 'silence.wav'. Be sure to rename it to sync with your POI file and bmp.
I have the POI files and the bmp...in a folder...when I got into trouble is when I added wav or mp3 file...converted mp3 files to wave files...and the wave files got a message can't convert wav. files on my POI folder...so I deleted wav files adde mp3 files back and they downloaded to gps ok....then is when I lost icons...was only getting an alert box....no icons...like I said b4....I had icons and alert box on gps....til I added wav or mp3 files...then lost icons?
Got sox.exe installed in the correct folder? What version is it?
Have no idea what that is?
Let me know if you have any questions after reading this.
Forget the sound files.
Remove all the .WAV and/or .MP3 files from your Custom POI folder on your computer.
Remove ALL the Custom POIs you have loaded to the GPS unit.
Make sure that ALL the Custom POIs that you want to load onto your GPS unit are in a folder on your computer.
Put the .BMP files that go with the Custom POI files in the same folders as the corresponding the Custom POI file.
Double check the file names as noted earlier in the thread.
Connect your GPS unit to your computer.
Run POI Loader on your computer.
Select the MAIN Custom POI folder on your computer as the source of the data.
Select MANUAL Mode to load the Custom POIs.
Set the alert distance for the ones for which you want to be alerted.
Follow the prompts until done.
He wants a pop-up alert with no sound.
Mama....lol...I have 2 garmin 3590...one of them has alert box workn no icons...other gps has icons workn no alert box...go figure...lol...it seems if I manually set alert distance for all pois I want alerts for I lose icons...do I express install first then go back and manual set alerts...or visa versa?
Well, if you have 2 3590, than all you have to do is set them up side by side and you will get what you are looking for.
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