About SD card content

Well, 1GB is honestly too small. I'll explain why in just a moment.

You can delete the following from internal memory: text, help files, voices, vehicles. The largest space saver will be the voices. The POI files themselves will be seen by the GPS on the MicroSD, but you will get prompted to install them. DO SO, because with the 1xxx units you cannot stop that prompt from happening on every boot.

As to what else you can move onto the MicroSD, quite a bit actually. But, plan ahead. Get a 4GB or 8GB MicroSD instead of the 1GB you currently have. This is because come 2013.10 at least the map will no longer fit in internal memory. Garmin's automated updater program will place the whole map on MicroSD card if it doesn't have the room in internal memory. In addition to the main map, you can place additional maps and the JCV file on the MicroSD card.

In this day and age, I do not even look at anything less than a 16GB microSD, so much more you can do with it in the future and the price is reasonable.

True, and I do have a 16GB in my 1300. Realistically however, I'm more likely to run into the map segment limit with my 16GB MicroSD than he would if he went with a 4GB or 8GB. All because I have more room to put maps on my device than he does his.

Garmin made a terrible mistake with the 1XXX series with the limited internal memory. Fortunately I was within the return policy when I bought mine. I would complain very strongly with Garmin to see if they will do something for you.

Ia there any way to get rid of the start up message that asks to move the contents of the SD card to unit memory on every start up? It is a real pain.

NO

The3 digit models have a counter-intuitive way to do it. You answer yest to the prompt, then tell it to skip and not ask again. That was not included in the 1XXX models.

I don't think anyone here will disagree with you that Garmin made a mistake by not putting sufficient memory on the 1xxx series, but complaining to Garmin about the lack of memory will do nothing. Garmin has covered themselves, not only by mentioning that a MicroSD card may be required, but also by revising their updater utility so that maps are placed onto the MicroSD automatically if the internal memory is insufficient to hold the entire map.

As GPS enthusiasts, most of us should know whether a particular model fits our needs. If it doesn't, then we need to get a model that does.

How many people do you think check what the internal memory is on a unit before they buy it. It is not something they should have to think about. I agree knowing the features is important!!!!

Garmin should put the free and total internal memory size on the specs on the outside of the box.

Then it becomes "buyer beware" - although 99% of the buyers will not be able to interpret the information.

Amen to that...how is anyone suppose to know how much memory you need to download maps??? In my opinion it is Garmins responsibility to insure the units have enough....

Does it matter? Most users don't update their maps to begin with. All they care about is whether they can get from A to B without hassle. The enthusiasts for the most part are the ones who seek the added features, which is why enthusiasts need to do their homework before purchasing a low-end GPS.

How many people have purchased a digital camera that has enough internal memory to hold a vacation/wedding/graduation/etc... worth of pictures? 0. They all require a memory card of some sort in order to be of any real use. With GPS it is the same. Just buy a memory card big enough to hold the maps. Currently the map size is around 2GB for all of North America, so a 4GB card is plenty for years to come. Problem solved.

If you purchase a low end system, it will have the least amount of memory. Basically, you get what you pay for.

I've been using an SD card for my c340 for years now, no issues with running out of space for the maps.

I had the same message display on mine too, it ask me only ones ,I select no and it never ask me again.

The question of loading poi's to memory never goes away if you want to keep them on sd card.

Quoted for truth. I have a 1300, which is an entry level unit. It was given to me for my birthday, therefore I don't complain about birthday gifts.

Anyway, the 1300 is very basic. No lane assist, junction view, or the speed limit indicator, though this model did come with lifetime maps. Now my roommate did her best, and like I said, I don't complain about birthday gifts. However, I knew I was going to have to find a way to add the missing stuff. I've already explained in some threads on POI Factory what I did to my 1300 in order to get those features.

I knew not to expect too much from the 1300, especially in regards to memory. However, after adding those features I'm happy with the device. To finish things off I dropped a 16GB MicroSD into the slot so I could still update my maps once they no longer fit on the device. 16GB is a bit overkill since a 4GB or 8GB card is ideal, but the pair of 16GB cards I had were sitting around doing nothing. So I put one in.

P.S. When I and my roommate bought our digital cameras, I made sure to add a pair of 2GB SD cards so we could use them. She however purchases a digital camcorder and forgets to get a card. But SHE had a 16GB SD card sitting around unused so she was ok.

And it's only around $15 on Amazon. I recently got one for an Android.

My father insisted he NEEDS a GPS even though he never goes anywhere different and no interest in doing so (guessing his "need" is because everyone else has one). At the time it was the cheapest unit with Lifetime Maps, so we decided on this unit. Considering how much more the high end models cost by comparison, I don't believe it is reasonable to expect high end features on a budget unit.

But as we know, all the missing features are standard on the 2012 lineup. My main point was that my roommate didn't ask me what I wanted in a GPS, so what I ended up with was less than I was expecting. I simply found a way to turn my 1300 into something more in tune with what I wanted.

Yet neither she nor I asked how much memory was in the thing. We didn't care either, since my 200W had been using SD cards for a year by this point.

Glad this question turned up. I was not aware that the newer devices had limited internal memory. I've been considering buying a newer model, but may continue to use my 765Tss for the time being. So far, I haven't had any issues with loading new maps. I have a 1390T as well, but haven't updated the maps on it yet, as I only use it as a backup in case the 765 should crash (which it hasn't yet).

The 2012 lineup has a minimum of 4GB if I recall so I wouldn't worry too much if you're looking for one. Earlier units like the 1xxx series had only 2GB, a decision which was roundly panned, and justifiably so because Garmin knows map sizes would quickly outstretch the available internal memory. They updated their updater program to recognize SD/MicroSD cards specifically because of the 1xxx series.

With the last map update for my 1490lmt, I was given the option to load the map onto my micro SD card. I have a 8GB installed so I was also able to load the large JSV file (775,260KB). Doing this freed up the space on my internal memory and I was able to load all my custom POI's & JPEG's to the internal.

No more annoying message! yay.....

@Strephon_Alkhalikoi,

Can you post a link to your 1300LM changes post. My search took me back where I found a previous post where you mentioned it but not the post itself.

I don't have a 1300 but I find things like this interesting.

Thanks

Garmin should also be able to install a hard drive capable of years of updates with how small these things can be made these days.

I never posted how it was done, just that I had done it. The original poster of the thread on Noeman.org was nice enough to provide pre-compiled .GCD files for this, making it a drag and drop operation.

Enable Hidden Features In Your Nüvi 12xx, 13xx and 14xx (Lane Assist, Junction View, Speed Limit Indicator)

Without delving too deeply into the details, the OP and a friend of his decompiled the US firmware into its components and replaced one of those components (boot.bin) with the equivalent component from a European 1xxx unit. The thread explains what to do and how to confirm you have the added features.

Some things to keep in mind:

1. Registration is required on the site to see links. <Shameless Plug>There's a lot of cool stuff to be found on that site, so I encourage you to register.</Shameless Plug>
2. This works on Windows 7, despite the OP's comments to the contrary.
3. You MUST know what GPS chipset your 1300 uses, so enter the diagnostics menu to find out.
4. This is a "one-and-done" upgrade. The changes persist through both resets and firmware upgrades.
5. Installing this upgrade will not suddenly provide you with the .JCV file on the next map update.
6. Your warranty, if any, is now null and void.

Thanks, was just curious.

The part that interests me the most is that the features appear to be available for the unit and Garmin actually just excluded them. I didn't realized the European version had the features.

The other thing is if someone makes it, someone else will reverse engineer it. Some people just have a lot of time and knowledge and no where else to use it all up.

Though my warrenty is over I like my Zumo just the way it is.