Standard Disallowing Numbers in POI File Names
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There have been recent threads dealing with problems we as Maintainers have created by having numbers in the names of POI Files.
See
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/35568
Because new members to this site will most like not know how POILoader treats the presence of numbers in POI file names (if they are under 125, they are treated as speed alerts), we should not be creating problems for them by using numbers at all when we (as maintainers) choose the file name. Note that even experienced members get caught by this problem.
What I would propose is that the actual file name be required to spell out numbers that the average person would typically associate with company names.
For example "7-Eleven" is the well known name of a convenience store chain. When looking for such a POI file, someone would logically search for "7-Eleven". However, the file that actually gets downloaded should be named "Seven-Eleven.csv" for example.
I believe we could make life much easier for users of our POI files.
Good Idea!
For example "7-Eleven" is the well known name of a convenience store chain. When looking for such a POI file, someone would logically search for "7-Eleven". However, the file that actually gets downloaded should be named "Seven-Eleven.csv" for example.
I just posted about that very file in another thread. I changed the name myself, since I got tired of changing the alert option every time I ran POI Loader (in manual mode).
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Make sure you do the same with folders
I had "seven-eleven.csv" in a "7-eleven" folder. The alert still triggered on 7 MPH. Folders do come into play if the file is inside one.
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Did not know that
I had "seven-eleven.csv" in a "7-eleven" folder. The alert still triggered on 7 MPH. Folders do come into play if the file is inside one.
Interesting. And, I am interested why you had a folder named "7-eleven". I assume you were creating a "Category" within your "Custom POIs". Is that correct?
If so, what would that mean?
Let me set up an example of a folder tree
MyPOIs
>>Favorite Stores
>>>>Walmart
>>>>HomeDepot
>>7 best places to eat
>>>>Applebies
>>>>Chilis
>>>>Cracker Barrel
>>>>Olive Garden
>>>>Red Lobster
>>>>Steak and Shake
>>>>Zaxbys
>>Restareas
POILoader would be pointed to "MyPOIs"
Would this create speed alerts on your GPS for each of the places to eat?
I don't see the need
I had "seven-eleven.csv" in a "7-eleven" folder. The alert still triggered on 7 MPH. Folders do come into play if the file is inside one.
For a 7-Eleven folder, why not have covenience folder.
MyPOIS
>Convenience Stores
>>Seven-Eleven
>>Wawa
>>Quikee Mart
Folder names
I had "seven-eleven.csv" in a "7-eleven" folder. The alert still triggered on 7 MPH. Folders do come into play if the file is inside one.
Interesting. And, I am interested why you had a folder named "7-eleven". I assume you were creating a "Category" within your "Custom POIs". Is that correct?
If so, what would that mean?
Let me set up an example of a folder tree
MyPOIs
>>Favorite Stores
>>>>Walmart
>>>>HomeDepot
>>7 best places to eat
>>>>Applebies
>>>>Chilis
>>>>Cracker Barrel
>>>>Olive Garden
>>>>Red Lobster
>>>>Steak and Shake
>>>>Zaxbys
>>Restareas
POILoader would be pointed to "MyPOIs"
Would this create speed alerts on your GPS for each of the places to eat?
Yes that is my experience.
Numbers in foldernames makes speed or proximity (depending on the number size) for all files inside folders or sub folders.
And it looks like the hiraki is "head folder"/ "subfolder"/ "filename"
example: Subfoldername "xxxxx200">filename "xxxx50" makes a proximity 400 meters.
Edit:speed and proximity set inside a gpx file will of course override all folder / file name
Having similar problem ...
... just slightly different.
Files with the word 'speed' in the filename also trigger speed alerts. While it's okay for my device to alert me to a 'speed' trap, I don't necessarily want it to alert me every time I approach a Speedway gas station or a race track. The workaround is to use POI Loader in manual mode, telling the device to ignore the speed alert on those files.
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I'm in favor of EDUCATION over REGULATION.
I would prefer that users be allow to name the files whatever makes sense to them rather than putting unnecessary additional rules that have to be followed.
(Remember, this is supposed to be fun not work.)
And that we make great efforts to make sure we educate users (new and old) as to how to best use the files for their particular situation.
Just my two cents.
agree, sort of
I'm in favor of EDUCATION over REGULATION.
I would prefer that users be allow to name the files whatever makes sense to them rather than putting unnecessary additional rules that have to be followed.
(Remember, this is supposed to be fun not work.)
And that we make great efforts to make sure we educate users (new and old) as to how to best use the files for their particular situation.
Just my two cents.
I agree that "education" is better than "regulation". However, I have not been able to think of an effective way to "educate" members (new or old) on avoiding the problems that occur with numbers in file names.
Note that my suggestion is that maintainers not use numbers in the file names. If someone downloading the file wanted to change 'seveneleven" to "7-Eleven" then they would be able to do so.
Asl long as they are aware
I'm in favor of EDUCATION over REGULATION.
I would prefer that users be allow to name the files whatever makes sense to them rather than putting unnecessary additional rules that have to be followed.
(Remember, this is supposed to be fun not work.)
And that we make great efforts to make sure we educate users (new and old) as to how to best use the files for their particular situation.
Just my two cents.
I have no problem with that either. I didn't know. I do now.
7-eleven was in my 'travel' folder with all my travel type POIs. Just easier for me to locate when doing an update. Nothing to do with placement on the GPSr.
Striving to make the NYC Metro area project the best.
Numbers can be added
I'm in favor of EDUCATION over REGULATION.
There have been threads where the poster added numbers to filenames himself as a way of indexing old and new versions of POI files.
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