Firmware 5.80 released for Nuvi 13xx & 14xx - Jan 4/12

Wow! I don't think I've ever seen Garmin move so fast on a firmware update. Less than a month from my complaint to a fix. But it says nothing about slow redraw rates, which was a problem for me with 5.70 installed.

Updated to version 5.80 on my 1350T, been using it for several days without any problems so far.

I wonder what it means - to comply with the France Safety Camera decree. Perhaps it means the detection of Speed cameras won't work in France!

Inquiring minds want to know!
Thanks.

Fred

Thanks for the update.. And yes I'll ditto the France safety camera compliance question!

PARIS — Thousands of drivers in France are reacting against a government initiative intended to improve road safety.

In two days, 80,000 people clicked “Like” on the Facebook page of AFFTAC, a group comprised of three companies that manufacture speed-camera warning devices. The supporters object to a government measure that has outlawed the technology.

AFFTAC has called for demonstrations throughout the country on Wednesday.

Users of these devices are able to learn the locations of permanently installed traffic radars around the country, as well as warn other members when they spot mobile-radar installations by pressing a button on the device.

The government recommendation came in response to a 12.8-percent increase in road deaths in the first quarter of the year, relative to the same period last year. Government ministers decided to ban the radar-warning devices as one of several steps to force citizens to abide by posted speed limits. In a press release, AFFTAC called the ministers’ decision “unjust, unjustified and blind.”

A decade ago, the death rate on French roads was among the worst in Europe, and the government reacted in 2002 with what some drivers called repressive tactics. Radar cameras were erected at intersections throughout the country, which captured a motorist’s license plate if the car surpassed the speed limit by more than 5 kilometers an hour (3 m.p.h.), deducted points off a motorist’s license and sent a fine through the mail.

The measures were deemed successful. The International Transport Forum said France achieved a reduction of 47 percent in its road-death toll in the first decade of the century, relative to the 1990s. The ministerial report said the average speed in France also dropped 10 kilometers an hour since 2002, or 11.7 percent.

The radar cameras, however, spawned a thriving market in radar-warning devices. According to AFFTAC, 5.1 million drivers in France use them. Under the new law, users would face fines of up to 1,500 euros, or about $2,100.

Ministers also decided to take down roadside signs that announce a fixed radar installation. French press reported on Monday that in the prefect of Doubs, a sign was removed for a radar that last year flashed 12,727 drivers.

At the moment, opponents of change are speaking louder in French media than the safety lobby, and if they go forward, the demonstrations on Wednesday would give AFFTAC’s cause even greater exposure.

Pierre-Henry Grandet, a spokesman for the Interior Ministry, said in the report that 4.6 million motorists were fined by radar in France last year. France is home to 31 million cars, according to C.C.F.A., the French automakers’ association.

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Thanks but the question about how this firmware update affects our Garmin's is still a question.

We still need to know what Garmin did to our GPS's with respect to French Speed Camera data. Did it disable the display of the locations as one approaches one of those sites?

Perhaps we will need to contact Garmin about what the change REALLY means. Until then, I'm not updating since I'm having no problems with my units.

Fred

Maybe that is why the GArmin site is down tonight?

I saw this in WebUpdater earlier today. I didn't bother. I guess the next FW update, it will be mandatory.

Jeez, I don't even have Euro maps on it. WTH, Garmin?

I said this once before, but it is only a matter of time, and they will strike at all of our conveniences that could put dollars in their pockets.

connection trouble

sorry more connection problems post aborted again.

I updated to 5.80.

After the firmware update, there were some additional OPTIONAL updates to languages & text etc. that were were specifically noted as for compliance to the French requirements, so from what I can tell the only changes to comply with the France decree is some changes to phrases and wording in the Garmin firmware, and these are optional when I updated with the Garmin Webupdater.

So far all seems normal (simulating a route to the nearest red light camera which will take 1/2 hour).

I notice in the simulation the time is where the elevation is supposed to be, and the elevation is where the time should be on the split screen. Good grief, can't they do anything right?

If someone will spot me a return ticket to France I will gladly check it out there for you.

UPDATE: Red Light Camera POI works just fine on the simulation, and hte elevation and time are in their correct places with the simulation turned off.

More on it here:

http://forums.gpsreview.net/viewtopic.php?t=24800

So, it looks like the FW update is removing any Garmin safety camera files from the unit for France.

New toy

I've updated to 5.80 on my 1490 and am not seeing this. During a simulation arrival time and elevation are in the right spots.

Thanks. That explains it & I suppose we can forgo that specific update without a problem.

Fred

I wonder if it applies to Quebec as well????

@FZbar

Except for the 3 or 4 things that Garmin fix in most firmware updates and DON'T list in the change history.

@Box Car

I suspect you asked this as a joke since Quebec has had no ties to France for almost 200 years now.

Thanks for the post. Since I am not French, and my 1350 works great, see not reason to update and take a chance that something goes wrong.

Updated to 5.8 last night and noticed this morning that the red BMW I had set as my vehicle (non-garmin vehicle) is gone.

Good reason not to update then.

The red BMW file was still in the vehicles folder, but was corrupted. Reinstalled and I have it back.

My 1450 is at 5.70 but I was unable to find any reference to 5.80 on the Garmin Website. Anyone able to post the link?

Look at the following for the nuvi changelog links
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/22479

and then click on your nuvi series to get the latest update

http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4551

Cheers

The Garmin link says that there is, in fact, a new release, 5.80, available for my 1450. What's not on that link is a way to actually do the download. What am missing? There are two links on that page. One link explains what Web Updater is all about, and the other link should show the system requirements but that link doesn't work.
So... how do I download 5.80 for my Nuvi 1450?

I had to go to "My Dashboard" on the Garmin site and this time it showed the update available. (It didn't yesterday.)
Anyway, all's well that ends well and 5.80 is now on my 1450.

It might be my imagination but I think my unit boots like 1 second faster after the firmware update.

It has never happened to me before. But, after this update, my 1490 could no complete the power-up process and turns itself off at least 1/3 of the time. Also, it turned itself off a couple of times during use for no reason.

Copy your favorites and perform a Master Reset.

To those who aren't updating because of France, when are you going there next? Seriously, using the actions of the French government as a reason to NOT install a firmware update is a very flimsy excuse. So in simpler language, unless you're traveling to France in the very near future you would be foolish not to update, especially after the constant crashing experienced with 5.70.

Even IF you're going to France, any device that warns of these traps is illegal, from my understanding. Including POI's on a GPS...

I'll wait on this one.

1. My 1350 doesn't have crashing problems
2. I might use my Garmin in France this spring.
3. I object to France's actions. Think what would happen in the US if the govt would take an action like this.
4. Garmin seemed to have folded their cards pretty quickly. Think it's related to sales of their GPS's in France?

Ugh.
Fred

Folded?

No, they're following the laws of a different country, just as the US expects someone from France to follow it's rules.

After a recent update my 1450LMT quit showing the yellow and red traffic information on the traffic map! I can see this information if I select traffic along my route. What gives?

I'll let all you brave souls try it out first. I don't plan on going to France, but don't want to immediately update in case it causes a problem. As long as I can update maps, I'm fine-my 1300 ain't broke, so no need to fix it.

I had a 1350LMT restarting problem while in a route and had the latest firmware at that time and still had problems, I worked with tech support, went through 2 new 1350LMT's within 30 days of purchase with the same problem, very unhappy customer, I requested a different model of GPS since I had so many problems with the 1350LMT's, Garmin sent me a new 2350LMT at no extra charge, now I'm a happy Garmin customer.

Sorry for coming late to the thread. Still haven't updated my unit yet.

I'm in agreement with Juggernaut. No one else even mentioned the fine you can get having a poi file on your GPS. The locals will know where the cameras are, or just drive the speed limit. Visitors unaware or unconcerned about the laws there or the wealthy, to whom $2000 is literally pocket change, so speeding and avoiding the cameras is more important, will be the ones paying the fines.

Interesting discussion though.