For iPhone haters. :)

 
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I don't hate the I phone, maybe the management

Has anyone read Steve Jobs Biography?
It turns out Job's was nothing more than a stinky Hippy, that would be alive today, if he wasn't so weird. Wasn't much of a inventor either, was a thief a taskmaster and just loved to screw-over people.

If you want some interesting reading, I suggest Steve Jobs Biography. After Your done you also will know the A-Hole he was.

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To BobDee

Thought you would be intrested in that I am currently teaching myself to create app for the android phone, I think I can make some cool app but I first need to learn all about it.

I know how you like all the cool apps and do wait to see your next posting for neat apps out there!

Keep up the great work!

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What Else is New?

Well, make a list of all companies and their management, then use that to make two piles: The really great and really bad. Which pile will be bigger? Which pile will be near zero? Go ahead and list the really successful companies and managers and tell us what what companies are led by really, genuinely nice people.

Let's not forget he was successful where others failed. Don't hate him for that. The Apple Store is just one example, and the entire iPod product is the benchmark for the industry. Say what you will, but Apple does it best. They understand what people want and deliver it. How can it be possible that a company that has a small piece of the personal computer market and a few other products be one of the largest market cap companies in the country?

BobDee wrote:

Has anyone read Steve Jobs Biography?
It turns out Job's was nothing more than a stinky Hippy, that would be alive today, if he wasn't so weird. Wasn't much of a inventor either, was a thief a taskmaster and just loved to screw-over people.

If you want some interesting reading, I suggest Steve Jobs Biography. After Your done you also will know the A-Hole he was.

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I dint think anyone would

I dint think anyone would argue that Jobs was not a nice peson but that does not mean his products were bad. Just the opposite. They are some of the best I've ever used. Not everyone will like them but name any product that is. What irks me is the appleholics and droidheads that think theirs is the only one and tries to insult others for making a different choice. I don't mind reading about the virtues or shortcomings of a product but a few on this site seem to make it their mission in life to insult others for their choices and not provide objective information.

Keep It Up, Apple!

Apple is making a whole string of great products, mostly thanks to Steve Jobs. I'm sure there'd be no Apple today if he hadn't returned to the company.

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I notice that too

gus2259 wrote:

but a few on this site seem to make it their mission in life to insult others for their choices and not provide objective information.

I notice that too. In internet jargon, that's called trolling. I've done this too, but mainly to level the playing field as I got tired of some folks bashing iOS.

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No life....

Last Mrk wrote:

Man Arrested After Calling 911 Five Times To Complain About His Broken iPhone. smile

http://goo.gl/zytnE

Yes, I saw the news and heard his calls on CNN's website. Hard to imagine someone would do that. He must have been drunk!

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true.

BobDee wrote:

Has anyone read Steve Jobs Biography?
It turns out Job's was nothing more than a stinky Hippy, that would be alive today, if he wasn't so weird. Wasn't much of a inventor either, was a thief a taskmaster and just loved to screw-over people.

If you want some interesting reading, I suggest Steve Jobs Biography. After Your done you also will know the A-Hole he was.

Apple is very anti-consumer, but they make a great product in the iOS devices.

So people continue to spend on them, and they continue to be more anti-consumer.

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News to me

nuvic320 wrote:

Apple is very anti-consumer

I don't know where you get your information from but Apple has been near the top of every consumer service and product ratings as far back as I can remember.

http://goo.gl/7HHSW

Do you think all the people buying Apple products putting Apple near the top of Company market capitilization charts stupid?

http://goo.gl/Y8OXr

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price-wise

Last Mrk wrote:
nuvic320 wrote:

Apple is very anti-consumer

I don't know where you get your information from but Apple has been near the top of every consumer service and product ratings as far back as I can remember.

http://goo.gl/7HHSW

Do you think all the people buying Apple products putting Apple near the top of Company market capitilization charts stupid?

http://goo.gl/Y8OXr

I think he meant "price".. smile

price-wise

Last Mrk wrote:
nuvic320 wrote:

Apple is very anti-consumer

I don't know where you get your information from but Apple has been near the top of every consumer service and product ratings as far back as I can remember.

http://goo.gl/7HHSW

Do you think all the people buying Apple products putting Apple near the top of Company market capitilization charts stupid?

http://goo.gl/Y8OXr

I think he was talking about "price".. smile

Be open minded

Android vs. iphone each has pros and cons.

all apple...

Apple is considered the latest and greatest everyone always wants the new thing whether its good or bad. One thing that keeps Apple in the passenger seat is they still need an APP to use there competitors successful software in which they lack, Microsoft Office. As long as they rather support it on there OS and not invent a sucessor themselves, they will lack to move ahead in the educational and business field. Microsoft office is one of the most important softwares used to today by the majority which took years and years to perfect. Not including money as well. Good luck granny smith Apple developers smile

Apple vs ?

I think it is commical when people get there undie in a knot over a product or company use what works best for you! Personally I love some of the Apple produces and really could care less about Jobs or Gates or who has caplitiolized on who's ideas. I just use the stuff!

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Steve and Apple--

My two cents--

Jef Raskin, the guy who started the Macintosh project at Apple, once said, "Steve Jobs would have made an excellent King of France" -- perhaps the best summary I ever heard.

Steve was passionate about things. He could be callous, mercurial, so many things, but he was passionate.

The best and the worst of the original 128k Macintosh can be attributed to Steve.

All the work on the fonts, and scrolling, on having rounded corners on windows and being able to drag things on the screen smoothly, the handle in the case -- that was Steve.

No cooling fan -- that was Steve as well.

I worked at Apple from 1980 through 1997, and was part of the Macintosh team from 1983 through 1985.

Apple is still building products that change the world.

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no

Last Mrk wrote:
nuvic320 wrote:

Apple is very anti-consumer

I don't know where you get your information from but Apple has been near the top of every consumer service and product ratings as far back as I can remember.

http://goo.gl/7HHSW

Do you think all the people buying Apple products putting Apple near the top of Company market capitilization charts stupid?

http://goo.gl/Y8OXr

Then obviously you have not purchased or used Apple products much.

On the Apple's app store, you can't do in-app purchases without it costing you an arm and leg. For instance you can't create a new account, or buy media from the Amazon kindle app, or the Nook app, because Apple's greed demands that Amazon / Barnes & Noble pay Apple 30% or so of the price of an e-book.

Imagine if you were ordering a product on your Windows PC, and Microsoft demanded that you have to pay Microsoft a 30% fee for the privilege of using a Windows PC to buy stuff.

Also, I purchased a MacBook recently, the day after the Apple's iPhone 4S media event. I asked the Apple folks if an upgraded model was coming out, and was told positively nothing new was coming out til next year.

Sure enough 2 weeks after my purchase, Apple quietly updated their website with newer, upgraded MacBooks, for the same price. My brand new MacBook was instantly outdated, worth far less than the brand new one on the site. Conveniently, Apple had a 14 day return policy, so I was SOL.

Why didn't Apple inform its customers of upcoming product changes? It would have saved me the heartache and headache of paying a high price for a computer that was supposedly current for at least the rest of the year.

No, Apple doesn't really care about its customers. The devices are pretty good, but their business model leaves a lot to be desired.

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don't hate the product, never said I did

what I said was I read the book, I think before anyone replies, should do the same. Then you will understand why I said what I said.
Job's wasn't an inventor he just had lots of ideas and surrounded himself with the inventors who could do the work of his dreams.
he was a hippy till the day he died.

Again read the book, it is job's own words from hours upon hours of interviews. Highly recommended.

So you say I'm slamming apple products, when actually that's not true. However there are other products that are eating away at the ideologies of Steve Jobs, and could be surpassing his products as usually happens.

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What Apple customer service?

Last Mrk wrote:
nuvic320 wrote:

Apple is very anti-consumer

I don't know where you get your information from but Apple has been near the top of every consumer service and product ratings as far back as I can remember.

http://goo.gl/7HHSW

Do you think all the people buying Apple products putting Apple near the top of Company market capitilization charts stupid?

http://goo.gl/Y8OXr

I don't know who they surveyed, but from firsthand experience I can dispute that.

Until the iPhone came out, the flagship of Apple was the iPod. And the top of the line iPod was the 5G Classic 160G. I purchased one, and there were problems with iTunes updates that made iTunes and my iPod not communicate. I could get support for the iPod or the iTunes store, but there is NO support for the iTunes program. Their best solution was to buy a new iPod.

I was able to download an old copy of iTunes from a 3rd party site and then I had to rebuild my library from scratch. Subsequent updates to iTunes have resolved the problem, so given enough time and attempts I know Apple will get it right, but their customers are held hostage until then.

The only good thing about iTunes is the smart playlists. But the industry has caught up with Apple on this. I have three iPods, and as they die I will be replacing them with non-proprietary devices that I can choose how to manage.

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nuvic320 wrote:

Then obviously you have not purchased or used Apple products much.

On the Apple's app store, you can't do in-app purchases without it costing you an arm and leg. For instance you can't create a new account, or buy media from the Amazon kindle app, or the Nook app, because Apple's greed demands that Amazon / Barnes & Noble pay Apple 30% or so of the price of an e-book.

So, then you use the Kindle app and Barnes and Noble Nook app that is available on the Apple app store for free and purchase from the Kindle oe Barnes & Noble websites. By the way. I've been using Apple products since 1985.

nuvic320 wrote:

Also, I purchased a MacBook recently, the day after the Apple's iPhone 4S media event. I asked the Apple folks if an upgraded model was coming out, and was told positively nothing new was coming out til next year.

Sure enough 2 weeks after my purchase, Apple quietly updated their website with newer, upgraded MacBooks, for the same price. My brand new MacBook was instantly outdated, worth far less than the brand new one on the site. Conveniently, Apple had a 14 day return policy, so I was SOL

You should have returned it. Isn't 2 weeks 14 days?. wink

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I hate Apple

I never liked Apple or Steve Jobs. Just like Microsoft, Apple went out of their way to stifle competition.
A good article anti Jobs and Apple is in the November 28 issue of The Nation written by Eric Alterman called "Steve Jobs:An American Disgrace"
A small quote from the article:

"The Foxconn plant in Shenzhen, China, which employs 420,000 people to manufacture products for Apple and other electronics and computer companies, to talk with the workers (unlike the Wired magazine reporter who, Daisey scathingly notes, penned a 3,300-word cover story on the plant without speaking to a single worker). Daisey's mission was risky—a photographer was recently beaten up by the company's guards—but he was determined, having heard about abuses at Foxconn. There, thirty-four-hour shifts, beatings, child labor, an epidemic of suicides and a general prison-camp atmosphere prevailed, and even yawning could get your (meager) pay docked. He met one worker whose hand had been "permanently curled into a claw from being smashed in a metal press at Foxconn, where he worked assembling Apple laptops and iPads." When Daisey showed the man his iPad, it was the first time he had ever seen one turned on. He thought it was "magic."
Faced with a public relations problem relating to the suicides, the company installed wire mesh on the factory windows to stop workers from jumping out to kill themselves. According to a subsequent London Daily Mail exposé, the workers have also been forced to sign a legally binding document promising that they and their dependents will not sue the company as the result of "any unexpected death or injury, including suicide or self torture."
Daisey is right when he insists that Steve Jobs was the one man in the world uniquely positioned to change this. Apple's profit margins are immense. The stock could have continued to soar even if the pay and conditions of these workers' lives were built into the cost of an iPhone or an iPad. People would have kept buying the products, and other companies would have been forced to follow suit. But Jobs didn't care. He even instructed Obama that the United States had to behave more like China in the manner in which it encouraged corporations to act free of regulations or concern for their employees and their environment."

yup

kurzemnieks wrote:

I never liked Apple or Steve Jobs. Just like Microsoft, Apple went out of their way to stifle competition. ...

Exactly...Apple is suing the pants off every competitor...when they too stole ideas from other companies. And some of their patents are so vague it's insane that they were approved.

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I don't hate apple at all

I know that I get the same or better performance for anything I want to do ( except work in video ) with a PC or Android product at a greatly reduced price. This is the reason that android phones are beating iPhone sales.

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folks

Double Tap wrote:

I know that I get the same or better performance for anything I want to do ( except work in video ) with a PC or Android product at a greatly reduced price. This is the reason that android phones are beating iPhone sales.

We have a bingo!

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True story

nuvic320 wrote:

And some of their patents are so vague it's insane that they were approved.

Only the best lawmakers money can buy... wink

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