2012.1 Map update

Not sure how this relates to the 2012.10 map....

Hopefully this was posted in error and we can get back on track re the new updates.

Does anyone have any issues/problems with hthe new map release??

The only problem I had with it was that I could not get it to install on my nüvi® 1690 -- said their wasn't enough memory. I was able to downsize the map by selecting only the US and Canada. I had already cleaned things off the 1690, such as unused voice & text files, so I couldn't find anything else to do with the unit.

For the life of me, I can't understand why Garmin puts so little memory in their units! If the Droid smartphone comes with 1Gb of memory, why can't Garmin put a little extra in their units?

Is there a list of which versions have what memory?
My 660 has 345Mb left after this map update, and I have loaded many, many POI's (CSV)

no problems noted, seems like someone else pointed out they have expanded the lane assist, it shows up now on approaches to the Interstate, also it seems to show up sooner gives you more time to get in the correct lane, the only possible problem here in Utah is the number of lanes is incorrect but that could be because UDOT is putting more lanes on the interstate and it seems it takes about 2 years for Garmin to catch up.

The solution to that error I mentioned in the other 2012.10 thread. Copy the map files to the computer ONLY, then run MapInstall to transfer the map to the GPS, once you cleared the old map off the internal memory. It's a workaround, because the installer shouldn't require anyone to do that. But Garmin's new GMA authentication built into the maps I believe is causing a few issues here.

The lack of memory in Garmin units has been discussed before. I happen to believe it to be a cost cutting measure on Garmin's part, since adding a decent amount of memory to the unit would increase the cost of the unit to a price point Garmin considers unacceptable. In any event, whatever portions of North America do not fit on the internal memory can be placed on the SD/MicroSD card. Yes, it's more work because you have to run MapInstall twice (once for the internal memory and once for the SD/MicroSD), but it works.

This is something I do all the time with my 200W since it only has 1GB of internal memory. In fact, for 2012.10 I swapped out the 1GB SD card I was using and put in a 2GB card for further expansion. It's my test mule, so I doubt I'm going to need more than that by the time it finally dies.

Is it possible to load the new updates map directly onto the SD/MicroSD card in your unit to solve the problme with not enough memory ?

I just got a notice that an update is available, I have to go and get the gps out of my car and see about this new update..

After I updated I noticed the 3D file is not listed separately like it was in earlier versions.

Also when I updated directly from Garmin it left 2011.40 in the unit but when I loaded from Mapsource 2011.40 was deleted. I think that is the size problem others are seeing.

Got the update downloaded no problems

Look again for the 3D file. Mine didn't show up until after I turned the unit off and on. I also do a hard reset after a map update but I believe the 3D file showed up just after turning the unit off and on.

downloading mine as we speak, got 2 updates. one for the 1450 and one for the 650. going to be busy today.

It went smoothly for my 660 last Thursday.

Just in time for our trip to the Preakness.

Got the answer after 3 hours. I had loaded the maps from Mapsource, not direct to the GPS. Direct gets the 3d file, Mapsource does not.

As I've done in the past, here are the free space stats on my 660 before and after the map updates.

The new maps will overwrite the previous one. HOWEVER - each map release is bigger than the last which means the free space gets smaller and smaller. Here are the free space numbers:

New, with 2008 maps - 540MB
After 2010.10 update - 428MB
After 2010.20 update - 394MB
After 2010.30 update - 379MB
After 2010.40 update - 365MB
After 2011.10 update - 270MB
After 2011.20 update - 252MB
After 2011.30 update - 217MB
After 2011.40 update - 176MB
After 2012.10 update - 128MB

I did not have to delete any of the "optional" files like voices or vehicles to make this version fit. I installed all of North America which includes Canada and Mexico.

I am getting close however to having to delete some unnecessary files, or picking a region NOT to install.

Did that with my 765 and my 3790. Keyboard, voices, dictionary. Deleted every file except English and German. All eula gone. 3790 had demo files..deleted those also.

I've noticed today my unit will not zoom in from 50m to 30m unless it's on a road that is not a 'yellow' road.

Idiot proofing?

Today I received an e-mail from Garmin telling me that map updates are available for my unit. Of course, due to POI Factory, I already have them installed...

Funny you should say that, I just got notified also. I think for the second time in two years.

One of the first things I noticed after the update, was enhanced lane assist, in less than 20 miles from my home. And I live no where important, and not close to any metropolis. Showed multiple lanes, and when exiting onto the interstate, showed a static picture of lanes, well before the actual exit. Also, more 3D buildings. The 3D buildings I can do without, but the lane assist I really appreciate!

You know.. YOU bring up a good point! Why not just version number the updates to match the year and month they were released? That would solve a couple of problems, or in this case, quickly answer a couple of questions.

Nuvi1300WTGPS

That suggestion has been beat to death on here. It would be a great numbering system and everyone would know what version is next. Unfortunately it makes too much sense and will never be implemented.

I backed up the .jcv file on my 855 before making the update available in February, and that for my 855 was 49,356,526 bytes.

This latest release gives me a 376,381,191 byte file.

Either they added a whole bunch or they made some drastic formatting change.

Sorry I failed to backup the immediate prior release, so can't give the intermediate size on my machine.

All junction view images are high quality (photoreal) now, instead of the medium or low quality images that were present before. Plus, there are a lot more junctions in the file.

That's why we don't make the big bucks.

Not all junction views in the US are PhotoReal.

Simulate a route south on I-5 from Portland Or. to Phoenix. If the Nuvi is set to Faster Time, scroll thorough the 'turns page' and you'll see 6 or 7 views in the LA area that are still the regular quality although the ones around Portland and the one that displays on I-10 toward Phoenix are the new higher quality.

I got my garmin nuvi 765t less then a year and a half ago and in that time, I have noticed that both lane assist and junction view have steadily become more and more frequent with each map update. When I first got my garmin, I rarely saw this feature to the point where I would only see it if I was actually IN a REALLY big city. Lane Assist and JCV were so sporadic that they were far from being useful. But with this latest update installed, I literally have seen lane assist everywhere I go now no matter what, even if I'm not in or near a large city. As for junction view, I'm noticing many people reporting that many junction views being improved to photoreal, and other large cities (like Pheonix and Calgary) now have it when they didn't have it before. Probably by 2013.10, lane assist and junction view will be as consistent and numerous as the speed limit indicators are now.

man I have had that for a while now and I did not have to hack into JPL to get it. jolley hooo boy some people

naaaa no way the world going to end on Oct 21 2011 sorry. but u can leave your banks acc to me. jolleyr

FYI, my old faithful vintage Nuvi 350 accepted a 4GB Kingston SD card Class 4 with no problem. It is a SDHC card (over 2GB) and the older unit was not supposed to recognize it, but it did just fine.

Has anyone had any trouble updating this model to 2012.10 - or version 5 firmware for that matter?

My 750 has the (short-lived) 5.1 firmware update and runs well with map 2012.10. Note that firmware 4.90 is now the current latest version. I believe that there are only 2-3 of us here at The Factory that installed and kept the 5.1. My guess is that your 760 will do as well as my 750 with the new map. My 750 was getting low on storage so before trying the 2012.10 map update, I finally did go in and remove the unneeded voice files to free up some room to guarantee that I'd be able to install the full North America.

I've got 16GB on advice through another posting. Seems that the best advice is if you need larger try it. On some units it works and on others it doesn't

Just back from a quick trip to Indianapolis, IN. I installed 2012.1 before we left but didn't have a chance to give it a trial run. It changed my route preferences, Garmella tried to route me across town through downtown Indy instead of taking the direct route to I-70. Routing preference had been changed from "Faster Time" to "Shortest Distance".

Check your personal options after you update to 2012.1. A pretty minor complaint but aggravating none the less.

Both garmins updated ok in about 1-1/2 hours each. However, the Mydashboard feature on Garmin website isn't finiding the plugged in unit. NOt sure what that's about.

Updated to the new map 2012.1 and no real problems. Took a trip from Toronto to Baltimore yesterday and all worked fine. One thing though, I like the new speed limit showing up for the 401 and QEW but my unit indicates 63 miles as the speed limit instead of 60 miles. I always drive with the miles as default in Canada so I don't know if the Kilometers are correct and show 100KM as speed limit. Anyone have the same issue?

Use the following converter & you'll see that all is well.

Cheers!

http://www.convertunits.com/from/km/to/miles

Time for Map update. Hopefully I'll find all these new roads and intersections in there.

Going to do my update today, lets hope all goes well on the 1490. The 265W update went OK with no "low memory" messages. Here goes.

Updated to 2012.10 and to version 5.30 on my 1490.
I can't install whole North American Maps any more, even after removing those unnecessary sound and image files. I don't mind since I don't plan to visit Mexico anytime soon. My worry is space could not be enough for even Canada+USA maps when next map update comes on. Is it possible to use microSD card for this?

You woiuld think that Garmin would give you an option to install on the GPS or on the SD/XD/whatever D card installed on the device.

Of course that would imply using common sense...lol

See http://www.poi-factory.com/node/31185

Any check to see if free map upgrades are included with welfare, Heck can't see why not.

I tried to update my 1490LMT to 2012.10. Install went to 70% then an unexpected error has occurred message appeared. The unit shows it is on version 2012.10. I ran a couple simulated routes and it appears to be routing okay. I did notice the routes wouldn't let me see junction view at areas that I know had junction view before I updated. I removed the extra files from my unit such as voices, vehicles and help and tried to run the update again. I just get the message that my device doesn't have enough space.

I think I am just dreaming. Did someone say the new update has lane assist? I have a W255 so if it didn't come with lane assist, it still won't have it. Right ?

Correct, only units capable of displaying Lane Assist and Junction View or 3D building view, etc. will display these features. The new 2012.10 map does greatly expand Junction View for those nuvi models that display them. Since your 255W doesn't offer these features, no map update will add them to it. Sorry.

Is there a way to do this if you don't have Mapinstall?

You could install MapInstall:

http://www8.garmin.com/support/mappingsw.jsp

On my 1450 LMT, I noticed that first the ETA froze and then the speed froze. When I clicked on the ETA, it unfroze, but the speed just updated and froze with the new speed. I had to reboot. Never had that happen before the update.

I had exactly the same problem. I have lost junction views at three places that I had it before, what gives Garmin. I buy a unit with lifetime maps and now find that the unit does not have enough memory to do the updates.