POI Verifier

 

It looks as though POI Verifier is no longer available. Is it still a program with functions not found in EPE? I have read what you guys said about it and would like to try it. But can't find it anywhere. I love EPE but you always look for something better. It's hard to beat the price on EPE. LOL

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I have a copy, and playing

I have a copy, and playing around with both it and EPE, I don't recall there being a feature POI Verifier has that EPE doesn't. In fact, in doing up the Historic Ships POI file, I didn't touch POI Verifier at all, but used EPE exclusively. So I wouldn't stress out over not having POI Verifier, as I found it to be a bit of a letdown after seeing the awesomeness of EPE.

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RE POI Verifier

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

I have a copy, and playing around with it

Never tried EPE to see if it will zero in on bad fields in a poi file - those that would make POI Loader burp. Will it catch those?

I assume that is one of the functions of POI Verifier?

Yes

jgermann wrote:

Never tried EPE to see if it will zero in on bad fields in a poi file - those that would make POI Loader burp. Will it catch those?

I assume that is one of the functions of POI Verifier?

Pretty much the only function. But it does what it does very well.

At my request, Rt posted a link to ver 1.0 a little over a year ago. That post is no longer available on POI Factory it seems.

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POI Verifier 1.007 & EPE

Like I said, I played around with it in the past. I didn't attempt to do serious work with it nor did I attempt to do an exhaustive study of every single feature of the program. But, the main feature I did try, which was checking for duplicate coordinates, EPE also has.

EPE does have a data check function to ensure there is at least a pair of coordinates and a name. I would presume that POI Verifier also has this basic function. Both programs can output POI files encompassing a specific state. Both can output the file to accommodate specific GPSrs, though EPE can cover a much wider variety of GPSrs than POI Verifier. Both have duplicate coordinate detection as well as "fuzzy" coordinate detection (detecting coordinates within a specific distance of each other). So since every feature of POI Verifier has been duplicated in EPE, there is no purpose in using POI Verifier.

EPE is currently supported, works perfectly in Windows 7, and is capable of creating POI files from scratch. POI Verifier is no longer supported, will run in Windows 7 but bombs when importing a file, and CANNOT create a POI file from scratch.

I understand the reluctance to part with a favorite tool, but when a new tool comes along that can do everything the old tool can and more, it's time to set aside the old tool.

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Since POI Verifier II is no longer available

All this discussion appears to be a moot point.
I own it and use it still to check my files and it does everything I need it to do.. I do not own EPE so I can not comment. But, POI Verifier, which was the work early on of Retired Technician, has been a faithful, and easy to work with software companion of mine for a long time.
Once again, THANKS RT for the early on work which saved many of us early POI Factory members many hours of tedious work making sure our files were correct.

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Yes Moot, but for clarity..

As MrKenFl said, you can't get it any more so it's moot.

But for clarity, imo POI Verifier helped with a lot of issues that arose from creating CSV files from scratch that would have errors. Except for constraining coords, all of the types of errors it detected & fixed can also be done with programs like EPE or GeePeeEx, etc. Sorting by location & the map display accomplishes the same though.

To better illustrate, here are the selectable options you got when it ran:

  • Constrain poi coords to 48 States, US-CA-PR-VI, or World
  • Modify line breaks for nuvi display
  • Remove all line breaks
  • Duplicate entry search
  • Lat/Lon coords duplicate search
  • Create files for only one state
  • Convert {br} to 'standard' line breaks
  • Swap Lat/Lon coords
  • Having said all this, I never had the chance to get a Registration number to use it before support was stopped, but then I never needed it anyway.

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    Thanks for all the info

    What prompted my question was that I thought POI Factory still used POI Verifier to determine whether or not to allow a POI file to be posted to the site.

    However, there have been recent threads where the OP had downloaded a file from POI Factory and it failed to work or was rejected by POI Loader. That made me wonder if POI Verifier was still in the loop, or if not, what was.

    I suppose it would be the desire of all of us that any file we download from this site would not be rejected by POI Loader. I was wondering how to make that a reality.

    Question Answered....Thanks

    Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

    Like I said, I played around with it in the past. I didn't attempt to do serious work with it nor did I attempt to do an exhaustive study of every single feature of the program. But, the main feature I did try, which was checking for duplicate coordinates, EPE also has.

    EPE does have a data check function to ensure there is at least a pair of coordinates and a name. I would presume that POI Verifier also has this basic function. Both programs can output POI files encompassing a specific state. Both can output the file to accommodate specific GPSrs, though EPE can cover a much wider variety of GPSrs than POI Verifier. Both have duplicate coordinate detection as well as "fuzzy" coordinate detection (detecting coordinates within a specific distance of each other). So since every feature of POI Verifier has been duplicated in EPE, there is no purpose in using POI Verifier.

    EPE is currently supported, works perfectly in Windows 7, and is capable of creating POI files from scratch. POI Verifier is no longer supported, will run in Windows 7 but bombs when importing a file, and CANNOT create a POI file from scratch.

    I understand the reluctance to part with a favorite tool, but when a new tool comes along that can do everything the old tool can and more, it's time to set aside the old tool.

    Well that took care of that. Will no longer fret over POI Verifier I or II. All good things must come to a close. EPE is awesome and so is this forum, may it never close.

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    misconceptions and Half-Truths

    Hi All,

    I'd like to clear up a few misconceptions and half-truths which are posted in this thread concerning 'POI Verifier I/II'.

    1. The latest version of 'POI Verifier II', i.e. v2.0.1.1, DOES work with Windows 7, both 32 bit and 64 bit versions. If you have a version of 'POI Verifier' that was created before the developement of Windows 7, naturally it will not work with Windows 7.

    2. After 'POI Verifier II' terminated, I created 'The Verifier', a very basic, free, cut-down version for members who wanted only to check the fomatting of their POI files. (This appears to be the program Kwibbly is speaking of.) That way I didn't step on the toes of all the faithful members who supported 'POI Verifier' from the beginning.

    3. A member started a thread to freely distributed (illegally, I might add) 'POI Verifier'. The problem this created was the version he/she offered was a very early version which still had some of the 'Beta Bugs'. This was exactly the reason for having 'POI Verifier II' require a registration number.

    4. As MrKenFL stated (thanks for the kind words), 'POI Verifier' was originated early on, in February 2007. It originally was developed to correct the line break problem we then found with some nuvi GPSs; but the poi files had so many formatting problems, we had to first correct the files before we could change the line breaks. Thus, the birth of 'POI Verifier'.
    http://www.poi-factory.com/node/1486

    5. EPE does NOT have all of the same features that 'POI Verifier II' does! If you want a more complete list of what options were offered in 'POI Verifier II' (in addition to what Strephon_Alkhalikoi posted in this thread), this link will help (need to read the complete link):
    http://www.poi-factory.com/node/16674
    It's obviously Strephon_Alkhalikoi comments are not referenced to the latest version. (Incidentally, 'POI Verifier II' not only checks for duplicates, it selectively removes duplicates.)

    I would like to take this opportunity to thank all those members, including Jon and Miss POI, who supported 'POI Verifier I/II' from the beginning. When a project consumes most of ones life (not to mention the costs of hosting and domain name) and some complain about the outrageous $10 cost, the 'desire' balloon to continue that project deflates in a hurry. That wasn't something I needed at a time in my life while fighting both Cancer and Heart Bypass.

    Considering the time frame when 'POI Verifier I/II' was developed, it offered a lot (and still does) with it's many varied options; but the program ran its course ... it's now time for someone else to take the reins.

    Thanks again.

    RT

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    I'm glad your still here to defend it!

    retiredtechnician wrote:

    That wasn't something I needed at a time in my life while fighting both Cancer and Heart Bypass.

    Thanks again.

    RT

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    Thanks

    retiredtechnician wrote:

    That wasn't something I needed at a time in my life while fighting both Cancer and Heart Bypass.

    RT

    I very much appreciated your post. AND, I understand how one can be deflated when some do not want to compensate the hard work of others. Any negative comments were totally uncalled for. But, on any site - even a great one like this - there will be a few who think only of themselves.

    Your clarification of the differences with EPE (which is a great product in my estimation) were helpful. I had thought that POI Verifier would have provided me with features that I could not find in EPE.

    My hope is that you will find some way to destribute the latest version without having to host a website and such.

    I hope your health is improving. We will pray for you.

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    Apologies

    retiredtechnician wrote:

    Hi All,

    I'd like to clear up a few misconceptions and half-truths which are posted in this thread concerning 'POI Verifier I/II'.

    I too appreciate the clarifications. My search fu was sorely lacking. Also, I tried to make it clear I was referencing an old version of the program, because I didn't have a new one to work with. So, I apologize if I offended you or anyone in this thread over my comments regarding POI Verifier.

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    Promoting misconceptions not intended here either

    I had no intentions of promoting misconceptions about POI Verifier either, and was careful to also point out that I never had a working (unlocked) version.

    Perhaps what I should have been more clear about is that I always felt the structured GPX format to be less prone to problems than the ambiguous CSV format.

    I should also have said that I use EPE and GeePeeEx as 'gateway' software to convert CSV files into GPX prior to compiling with POI Loader. I also quite often use Excel for 'bulk' edits of CSV files, but always convert & store them as GPX. When doing that you have the opportunity to bulk edit, sort, & delete based on your own criteria, as well as remap things like reversed lat/lon etc. either in Excel or during 'import' to the software (EPE/GeePeeEx).

    Bottom line is that in the wild west days of mainly CSV files there were quite a few 'buggy' files out there. Between people like RT, Miss POI & Jon, and all of this community, those files are getting rare to the point of almost non-existant. Promoting use of software that adheres to the GPX specs just helps even further to clean the data, imo.

    While I'm on the subject, one word of caution when using EPE is that it's a bit TOO flexible inasmuch as it allows a GPX file to be written using 'Imperial' values for proximity, which is NOT proper GPX. It can be handy though if you're aware of it and make sure you have the 'Metric' save option selected (and Metric editor view, so you know what the values will be). POI Loader expects proximity to be metric in GPX as the format dictates.

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    where do you find EPE

    i see the comparators but where do I download EPE. to many weird things come out when googled!!

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    You can download Extra Poi

    You can download Extra Poi Editor at http://turboccc.wikispaces.com/Extra_POI_Editor When you download the program if you get message about OCX file missing scroll down on the main page and under troubleshooting you will find the Extra Poi Editor Installer that you will need to download. Once installation is completed you will need to set up the preferences you want first. Under options click on preferences. For example using ft for input. Under units you will see editor, select Imperial/US. For Field Read select metric and Field save select Metric.

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    skykid2 wrote:

    i see the comparators but where do I download EPE. to many weird things come out when googled!!

    Don't know what you Googled but searching for Extra_POI_editor returns http://turboccc.wikispaces.com/Extra_POI_Editor as the first item. This is the download location.

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