I need help, Saving my route

 

OK, I need help...I'm a route driver and have 15 different stops every day. That's 300 a month. How can i keep these days separate and saved on the garmin. Thanks for all your help

Several ways

sweetpapatom wrote:

OK, I need help...I'm a route driver and have 15 different stops every day. That's 300 a month. How can i keep these days separate and saved on the garmin. Thanks for all your help

Probably the easiest is to create an entry for each one. But it would be a lot easier to help you if we knew exactly what you are trying to do and which unit you have.

Do you have specific routes you drive? Are they always to the same locations? Do you visit each location only once per month? Lots of questions, but with that information we may be able to suggest possible ways to solve your dilemma.

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RE: saving routes

sweetpapatom wrote:

OK, I need help...I'm a route driver and have 15 different stops every day. That's 300 a month. How can i keep these days separate and saved on the garmin. Thanks for all your help

You have not mentioned which GPS make and model you are asking about. Garmin? TomTom?

If you have a Garmin, very few models these days allow you to save routes. I suggest you check the features on the Garmin website for your model and see if it supports saving routes. I know of the top of my head that the 2xx series can not save routes but the 7xx series can (and can optimize them as well). I can't speak for other models.

You also have an issue with the number of routes you can save. Most garmins that save routes say that they only save 10. Well the fact is, the ones I've used can actually save 12 (that's 12 active routes at a time). You can easily build 20 using mapsource and transfer them to a 7xx, calling them any name you like. They get saved to a temp.gpx file and remain there but are not on the active route list. From a menu option in the "my data" folder you can load/activate any 10-12 you like from the saved file. When you need another batch you must delete all the routes and load up another batch. It's not pretty but it works and you probably only have you reload about 2-3 times a month which isn't difficult.

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ok, i have garmin 7xx. these

ok, i have garmin 7xx. these are the same stops. what i'm doing now is putting in 15 stops a day, then deleting them, and putting in 15 more stops for the next day. i want to save each day so i don't have to keep putting them in every time

RE: ok, i have garmin 7xx. these

That sounds easy enough on a 7xx

On a 750/760 it works like this and I'm sure all the 7xx models are the same...

menu > where to > routes > new

there you add a START and END point (any 2 points on your route are ok here.

After your initial 2 point route you start adding points. You can build the route (later you can edt/re-order, etc)
- add a new beginning point
- add a new end point
- add via points (using the appropriate green+ to locate the insertion point)
- you can delete any point (using the appropriate red-)

when youve completed some entry use the NEXT button on the bottom. Your route will be calculated and you will get a preview screen with a BACK & SAVE options. Choose SAVE and the GPS will save it with a name you used for start and end points. You now have a basic route and now you can PREVIEW or EDIT it. If you EDIT, during this edit session you will see options to
"CHANGE NAME" (maybe you want things like SUN, MON)
"ADD/REMOVE POINTS"
"MANUALLY RE-ORDER POINTS"
"OPTIMALLY RE-ORDER POINTS"
"RECALATE"

Each of the operations allows you to RECALCULATE and SAVE. Once you get the hang of it, it isn't to bad. Personally, I don't like doing route creation at the GPS, I do all of mine on a PC with Mapsource which I find much easier fro trip planning.

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Routes in Mapsource

Frank508, I like the idea of designing and saving routes in Mapsource rather than in the GPS. After you load the routes into the nuvi, does it recalculate each one?

Other threads have said there is a problem in doing this because there are differences between the map in Mapsource and the map in the nuvi.

dobs108 - nuvi 760

Custom routes

Note that you can store more than 10 routes as GPX files on the nuvi 7xx units. You can only have 10 in the Custom Routes list at any one time, but you can have many GPX route files sitting on the unit ready for import. When you are ready to load a new route, just delete one of the 10 Custom Routes and import another one. Both the Delete and Import operations are carried out in the Tools - My Data menu.

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routes

sweetpapatom wrote:

OK, I need help...I'm a route driver and have 15 different stops every day. That's 300 a month. How can i keep these days separate and saved on the garmin. Thanks for all your help

just a question but couldn't sweetpapatom load the different routes onto sd cards, then select a route and run it off the card

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RE: routes in mapsource

dobs108 wrote:

Frank508, I like the idea of designing and saving routes in Mapsource rather than in the GPS. After you load the routes into the nuvi, does it recalculate each one?

Other threads have said there is a problem in doing this because there are differences between the map in Mapsource and the map in the nuvi.

dobs108 - nuvi 760

There ARE some problems and it sort of takes some experimenting to get it exactly how you want it.

Fundamentally, you can't guarantee that mpasource will create exactly the same route as the gps, even when using identical maps in both (I can't tell you why that is). In fact, various versions of mapsource have different problems creating what I would call GPS compatable routes but they're not as bad a people would have you believe.

Here's basically how I go about it. First let me say that the whole reason for wanting to plan a route is because you want to go a "specific" way that is not the way the GPS wants to send you or you want to visit multiple destinations. Unless I'm going on a real trip, I don't often find the need for generating routes.

In mapsource I start with my 2 endpoints and any intermediate destinations I want to visit. Mapsource then calculates it's default route. If I don't like the default route I start to shape it by adding via points (by dragging the route line) so mapsource uses road I prefer to use. I recommend using via points sparingly, the choice of a viapoint location can be dramatic an it usually only one or two judiciously placed via's to cause major change.

When I like it I save it and sent it to the GPS. While it's true that GPS DOES recalculate, it honors all of your intermediate destinations and any via points you've added to shape the actual route. I always preview it in the GPS and if it's different enought to notice visually I edit the route in the GPS and save it.

When you are driving a route and a "recalculation" situation arrises, it will still honor all your original vias so eventually you will get back to the original route.

The downside is that when you add via points from the map to shape a route there are side effects at the GPS as you navigate. Those vias you add to shape a rout can have very cryptic and useless names but the GPS still thinks they represent the next turn (so your distance to next turn can look confusion). The GPS will also try to annunciate them as next turns and the names can sound like a foreign language.

Anothere downside to using saved routes is that they are NOT reversable in a lot of cases. Primarily because the GPS treats all of your destinations and vias as coordinates which is a big problem when the trip involves divided highways and one way streets in one direction. Hmmm... lots of issues that the GPS can't solve.

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Custom routes on SD card.

d-moo70 wrote:

just a question but couldn't sweetpapatom load the different routes onto sd cards, then select a route and run it off the card

The GPX route files can be either on a SD card or on the internal memory volume. Note that you do not "run" the route from the GPX file. You have to first import it into "Custom Routes". The Custom Routes are always stored in the internal memory and become part of the current.gpx output file.

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True But (I mean: And)

alandb wrote:
d-moo70 wrote:

just a question but couldn't sweetpapatom load the different routes onto sd cards, then select a route and run it off the card

The GPX route files can be either on a SD card or on the internal memory volume. Note that you do not "run" the route from the GPX file. You have to first import it into "Custom Routes". The Custom Routes are always stored in the internal memory and become part of the current.gpx output file.

For the cost of two or three SD cards, he can import ten of them from the SD card. Then when he's ready for routes 11-20, he can switch cards and import the next set.

If he needs 21-nn, a third SD card is in order.

Next month, re-import routes 1-10

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Actually, you can store an unlimited number of routes on the single SD card in GPX files and then just import them and delete them as needed. No need to swap cards.

importing GPX routes from SD card to Nuvi 750 GPX internal FLDER

no one seems to ever explain how to move/import gpx routes from an SD card into the GPS internal route memory?? The only things I can ever get the NUVI to recognize from the SD card is MP3 music or Pictures??

folders

jelane wrote:

no one seems to ever explain how to move/import gpx routes from an SD card into the GPS internal route memory?? The only things I can ever get the NUVI to recognize from the SD card is MP3 music or Pictures??

Your SD card folder structure needs to match the folder structure of your Nuvi. You need, at a minimum. a /Garmin folder on your SD card and the GPX files inside that folder.

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SD card route importing

Thanks, but I set up a new folder named GPX and added a couple of Routes as GPX files and still no recognition of the routes by my NUVI. By the way the folder name I used on the SD card is the same name used in the NUVI's internal memory. What else should I name the folder on the SD card??

Saving Your Routes

sweetpapatom wrote:

OK, I need help...I'm a route driver and have 15 different stops every day. That's 300 a month. How can i keep these days separate and saved on the garmin. Thanks for all your help

If you have ALK Copilot you can save your routes by route name or by route days or weeks. Very simple to do.

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SD cards uses

I have no clue what is AKL copilot means and how it relates to using SD cards??

try this

jelane wrote:

Thanks, but I set up a new folder named GPX and added a couple of Routes as GPX files and still no recognition of the routes by my NUVI. By the way the folder name I used on the SD card is the same name used in the NUVI's internal memory. What else should I name the folder on the SD card??

I created a Mapsource route. I transferred the route to my card. Disconnect the card from the computer & install in your Nuvi. TUrn on the Nuvi. Go to tools>MyData>Import Routes>Select All>Import.
There you go

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maybe we're both confused

jelane wrote:

Thanks, but I set up a new folder named GPX and added a couple of Routes as GPX files and still no recognition of the routes by my NUVI. By the way the folder name I used on the SD card is the same name used in the NUVI's internal memory. What else should I name the folder on the SD card??

When you state you are trying to save routes to the SD card, exactly what are you trying to save? And, exactly where are you attempting to save the route?

The SD card has to have a folder/directory named Garmin and this folder has to be in the root directory of the SD card. You can then put other folders inside this one such as \music, \GPX, or other names. If you have a \Garmin folder, the GPS will treat the SD card as an extension of the same folder on the unit. Music files, such as your MP3 files do not need to be in the \music folder. The system will scan the SD card and add them automatically.

Routes are stored as GPX files, but they are either created with a program such as Mapsource or by selecting locations from Favorites for multipoint routes. Simple routes are from a start to a via point to a destination. All units will do simple routes, but only those whose specifications so state will do multipoint routes where you go from A to B to C to D to your destination.

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SD card useage

Like I said above, I named the SD card folder "GPX"-I guess you are saying I should name it "Garmin" instead?? I don't know how to how to make the folder in the root directory of the SD card -please explain.

Also as I said above I put some GPX files in the SD card folder (created from Mapsource and saved as GPX files to the SD card) is that what you are asking.

I know what you are saying about simple routes-what I am trying to do is save Mapsource created routes to the SD card folder then trying to import them from the SD card to the NUVI.
I know there are other ways to creat and import routes, but Iam trying to do it utilizing the SD card so I will know that SD card functionality. Thanks for your help and patience.

What Is ALK Copilot

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jelane wrote:

I have no clue what is AKL copilot means and how it relates to using SD cards??

http://www.alk.com/copilot/android/

I hope this answers you question.

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Jelane

Start with a blank SD card. Transfer your Mapsource routes to the card, on my pc it is drive(k:). Let Mapsource create the folders on the card. Then, on your Nuvi, Tools>MyData>Import Routes(s)>Touch select All. Touch Import. The routes are now on your Nuvi and still on the card also.

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SD card useage

That does not work. The nUVi actally asks " Import routes from file(s) -files being the internal NUVI GPX memory-not the SD card. So my continuing question is how does one get the GPX data transferred to the NUVI GPX internal memory from SD card so its there when one gets to the point of "import from files".

Also you made no mention of naming a folder on the SD card(garmin or GPX or??) before transferring GPX routes from mapsource??

sorry

It worked for me

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jelane, at this point

At this point it sounds as if you have no idea of how a computer stores and organizes files so trying to explain it would take a lot more bandwidth than we have.

I would, at this point, put a brand new SD card in your Nuvi and do as Spokybob says - Have Mapsource transfer the routes to your blank SD card. This should create the proper file organization on your card. Once you have transferred a route to the BRAND NEW card, display the contents of the card. You should only see the drive letter and a list of folders on the card. Those folders are in the root directory. One of the folders should be named Garmin.

Go to the Nuvi, touch Tools, My Data, and Import Routes from Files. You should see the route created by Mapsource listed. If this is the case, you can now copy your music files to the new card and be good to go.

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And as noted above, be sure that the file structure is \Garmin\GPX and that the files are in the GPX folder UNDER the Garmin folder.

Jelane - Routes are different

jelane wrote:

... Also as I said above I put some GPX files in the SD card folder (created from Mapsource and saved as GPX files to the SD card) is that what you are asking.

Jelane, the proper way to save routes to the Nuvi from MapSource is to use the "send to device" option from the Transfer menu in MapSource. It sounds like you are doing a "Save As" and navigating to the SD card. That's not the recommended way to do that.

SD cards uses

Ok- I got it to work-specifically I first formated a fresh Sd card (FAT32) then I had mapsource transfer to device (the SD card) it created all the necessary folders on the SD card and put the route in the Garmin/GPX folder which the NUVI did read and allowed the transfer of the saved route from the SD card to the Route memory in the NUVI. These are the important step by step that I was missing because I was trying to use "save as" from mapsource to the SD card which missed the step of folder creation.

I found out that if one trys to add a secound route to SD card from a new mapsource route it will write over and replace the first route unless on additional route saves you save them using "save as" from mapsource to SD card and save it into the folder garmin/GPX. This way I can add many of my saved mapsource routes and store for future uses. These route are frequented every year by my motorcycle club i.e. Yosemity park, Sequoia national park and many more.

thanks to all for the help.

are you certain?

jelane wrote:

I found out that if one trys to add a secound route to SD card from a new mapsource route it will write over and replace the first route unless on additional route saves you save them using "save as" from mapsource to SD card and save it into the folder garmin/GPX. This way I can add many of my saved mapsource routes and store for future uses. These route are frequented every year by my motorcycle club i.e. Yosemity park, Sequoia national park and many more.

thanks to all for the help.

As others will also state, the only time a "send to device" overwrites the existing file is if it has the same name. I've mapped several days worth of travel and sent each day successfully to an SD card for use. But then I also made certain each day was identified differently.

In any event, I'm glad you finally got it to work.

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Jelane

Sweet! I'm glad you got er done

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Box Car wrote:
jelane wrote:

I found out that if one trys to add a secound route to SD card from a new mapsource route it will write over and replace the first route unless on additional route ...

As others will also state, the only time a "send to device" overwrites the existing file is if it has the same name. I've mapped several days worth of travel and sent each day successfully to an SD card for use. But then I also made certain each day was identified differently.

I'm guessing that most likely what is happening is that the user is sending a route from one MapSource file and then without disconnecting the unit, the user is sending a second route from another MapSource file.

This will result in the behavior described.

The way to avoid this is to disconnect in between OR better, to copy and paste all routes that the user wants to send into a SINGLE INSTANCE of MapSource and send them all at the same time.

Note, that it is possible to have multiple different INSTANCES of MapSource open at the same time and it's easy to copy and paste data between them.

I'll check

Motorcycle Mama wrote:

I'm guessing that most likely what is happening is that the user is sending a route from one MapSource file and then without disconnecting the unit, the user is sending a second route from another MapSource file.

I'll check, but I believe I did my routes individually and made the transfers without disconnecting.

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