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While watching the local news tonight they did a piece on cameras in School Buses. The cameras swing out with the stop sign on the bus when the bus stops in the street to let kids on or off. Passing the bus takes your picture and you know what comes in the mail.

The fine was stated to be $1000.00 for first offense and a Felony for second offense. The legislation may not be passed but they already have the cameras in some school buses.

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What wrong with that? This is a camera I hope they get.

Sounds good to me! Add a night in jail to that Thousand Dollars, and their name in local newspaper wall of shame column. This Idea is for a suburb of Cleveland, I have no problem catching folks that endanger children and roll a stopped School Bus with the stop paddles out where I live. Don't want a ticket then Stop for the children getting off the bus.

The Cross Safe Program designed by Affiliated Computer Services Inc. of Dallas. and introduced to the South Euclid-Lyndhurst Board of Education and Lyndhurst city officials.

The program involves a camera attached to the stop sign arm on a school bus. The camera would catch motorists who drive through the stop sign. The company would then send photos of violators to the SEPD and LPD, who would certify a violation has been committed.

ACS would then send the car owner a ticket.

The cost for the school bus cameras, like the other cameras, is nothing to the cities since the company makes its money from a percentage of fines levied.

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School Bus Cameras

Is that in Dallas TX then? My wife is a school bus driver and she gets drivers that don't yield for her stop arm and lights from time to time. I think this would be worth looking into further at our school district.

Protect the Kids

I'm for protecting the kids and the camera. A grand seems a little too much, though.

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I agree

Yes a $1000 is a bit steep for the first offense. I also would like to see a control lever in the School buses that prevents the driver from putting out the stop sign before the bus comes to a full stop. I have seen way to many drivers put the sign out well before the bus stops.

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bus arm

as a part of bus driver training, the driver is required to apply the stop sign sometime before the bus stops to warn other drivers that it is going to stop. i don't see a stop sign pop up at the last second at an intersection. have you? too many people get in a rush to get somewhere. speeding and passing buses is is their way of getting there fast. but they forget that kids run out from these buses and do get hit. as a commercial driver, i see many irresponsible drivers. this is a good system and hope to see this in all buses.

No kidding...

WalkThisWay wrote:

I'm for protecting the kids and the camera. A grand seems a little too much, though.

Definitely and a FELONY for the second time? As in losing voting and firearm ownership rights? WAY too severe, especially if there is no traffic incident other than running the bus stop sign.

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As with all of these systems, the reality is that the impact is less than immediate; If it catches you it may be a month or more before you see your ticket.

Since the ticket would carry no points/insurance penalty, it still smacks solely of being a simple tax grab.

One technique I have seen used up here is that the bus driver will stop on the diagonal, blocking the entire street and preventing anyone from passing the bus. The driver turns on the flashing lights prior to stopping and deploys the arm co-incident with the opening of the door.

That would eliminate the entire problem, except perhaps on wider boulevards (and obviate the need for expensive systems that enrich private companies).

I presume that there would have to be TWO cameras; one aimed forward and the other facing back? Otherwise what would be the point?

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Stop means stop

No matter if it is a school bus, stop sign at an intersection or red light. Stop means stop and that goes for everyone. Myself I feel they should loose there license for passing a stopped school bus. I can't count the number of kids nearly getting hit by a car, usually a teen driving. Another problem is a 4 lane highway. If it does not have a physical division, grass or cement barrier, both directions should stop. Granted most kids will not be crossing at such a stop since the school usually does not allow this. They will usually have another bus or that bu travel that side of the road.

In short of people would use common sense and obey the laws that already exist then we would not need cameras to keep people in check.

Another Money Grab

Sounds like another camera Scheme to take money out of motorists pockets and put it into the hands of greedy politicians and camera companies. This is perhaps one of the worst types, as the stop sign can pop out at any moment with little to no warning.

Another Money Grab?

OH PLEASE! Just stop for the school bus.
There is absolutely no excuse for this one.

You can make all the excuses you want, if you get flashed by a school bus your a jerk of a driver period.

So lets see how many people can try to blame this one one everyone except for themselves

It's not a scam, it's away to to stop drivers from ignoring flashing stop equipment, and kids getting run over from people that don't understand the concept of the octagon stop sign. No excuse's on this one.

It always amazes me how people justify running the lights and stops in their own little world.

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What Cost

The comment about the $1000 being a stiff fine may be true but what would be the cost if you hit a child getting off the school bus. Jail time, law suits, and your life ruined. Just stop for the school bus no matter when the STOP sign comes out.

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agree

I agree that most of the bus drivers do a exellent job, but there are always a few that spoil it for the rest. I would then think that these cameras be activated when the bus door opens. This way there isn't a chance of a premature photo. Keep up the good driving and the securing the well being of our kids. (even though my youngest is 41..)

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Yes in Dallas.

Jim1348 wrote:

Is that in Dallas TX then? My wife is a school bus driver and she gets drivers that don't yield for her stop arm and lights from time to time. I think this would be worth looking into further at our school district.

News in Dallas, the news video can be seen at:

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/fox_4_features/street_squad...

or if the above link doesn't work"

http://tinyurl.com/yldczsa

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true about the bad apples

legatzke wrote:

I agree that most of the bus drivers do a exellent job, but there are always a few that spoil it for the rest. I would then think that these cameras be activated when the bus door opens. This way there isn't a chance of a premature photo. Keep up the good driving and the securing the well being of our kids. (even though my youngest is 41..)

There is a driver in our neighborhood that will turn on the red stop lights just so they can make a left turn. That is abuse.

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Cameras ad Safety Initiatives

legatzke wrote:

I agree that most of the bus drivers do a exellent job, but there are always a few that spoil it for the rest.

The same can be said for the drivers of any type of vehicle (including personal cars). We should not eliminate safety initiatives simply because some people are perceived to "abuse" privileges accorded to a group (school bus drivers, police officers, ambulance, etc.). I would hate to get a $1000 fine for a momentary lapse in attention, but better that than hit a child darting out from the school bus!

Bus Driver Abuse Enrages Drivers

At a local school on a busy two-way street, bus drivers are turning on the flashing red lights simply to make a left turn to enter the school driveway. When a long line of buses is waiting to leave the driveway, and the street has heavy traffic, an empty bus stops on the street and turns on the red lights to stop traffic, then 20 or more buses turn into the street while drivers in cars are becoming enraged. How can school bus drivers demand complete compliance with the law by car drivers when they flout the law every day?

dobs108 Nassau County NY mad

Stop sign

School buses in Ohio have both red and yellow lights at the roof line. The yellow lights are turned on by the driver of the school bus prior to making a stop as a warning to other drivers. It is legal to pass a school bus with the yellow lights flashing. The stop sign comes out and the red lights start flashing when the driver opens the door. Closing the door cancels both the red lights and the stop sign.

My wife is a school bus driver and has had people run her red lights plenty of times. She get the vehicle's license number, if possible, calls it in to the dispatcher / supervisor, the dispatcher / supervisor calls the violation in to the sheriff's department and the owner of the car gets a ticket.

The state police will also follow school buses from time to time and issue tickets to any drivers they see passing a stopped school bus.

I have only a minor problem with this. The owner of the vehicle, not necessarily the driver, is the one who gets the ticket if the violation is called in by the driver. The same will be true of cameras. This procedure will get the driver somewhere around 95-99% of the time and seems to be just as fair as red light and speed cameras.

But a $1000.00 fine in the mail.....come on!

To all the people who say

To all the people who say that this is just another way to make money for the state, Just think if it was one of your children who would be saved by these cameras, whould it still be wrong to have them.
As for a $1000. fine, how much is a life worth?
Some people only learn by being hit in the wallet.
Sorry for ranting, but I saw a child hit by a driver passing a school bus. She never had a chance!

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Fine wouldn't matter

DanielT wrote:

I would hate to get a $1000 fine for a momentary lapse in attention, but better that than hit a child darting out from the school bus!

Momentary lapse in attention, to include getting the fine? $1000 fine or not, you'd have hit the kid anyway in that situation...

What's the difference?

dobs108 wrote:

At a local school on a busy two-way street, bus drivers are turning on the flashing red lights simply to make a left turn to enter the school driveway. When a long line of buses is waiting to leave the driveway, and the street has heavy traffic, an empty bus stops on the street and turns on the red lights to stop traffic, then 20 or more buses turn into the street while drivers in cars are becoming enraged. How can school bus drivers demand complete compliance with the law by car drivers when they flout the law every day?

dobs108 Nassau County NY mad

What is the difference between that and a someone directing traffic? The crossing guard at our schools stops traffic on the street to let the school buses in or out of the parking lots everyday. It is quicker and safer than everyone-for-themselves that you seem to want.

The bad apples, are people that don't stop for school bus's

a_user wrote:
legatzke wrote:

I agree that most of the bus drivers do a exellent job, but there are always a few that spoil it for the rest. I would then think that these cameras be activated when the bus door opens. This way there isn't a chance of a premature photo. Keep up the good driving and the securing the well being of our kids. (even though my youngest is 41..)

There is a driver in our neighborhood that will turn on the red stop lights just so they can make a left turn. That is abuse.

Your right, so you should tur him in for that abuse! with that said you still need to stop when the paddles come out with he stop signs and red flashing lights.

Deal with the abusive bus driver, it could be your grandchild that gets killed because you didn't stop.

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Yellow then Red

jackj180 wrote:

School buses in Ohio have both red and yellow lights at the roof line. The yellow lights are turned on by the driver of the school bus prior to making a stop as a warning to other drivers. It is legal to pass a school bus with the yellow lights flashing. The stop sign comes out and the red lights start flashing when the driver opens the door. Closing the door cancels both the red lights and the stop sign.

My wife is a school bus driver and has had people run her red lights plenty of times. She get the vehicle's license number, if possible, calls it in to the dispatcher / supervisor, the dispatcher / supervisor calls the violation in to the sheriff's department and the owner of the car gets a ticket.

The state police will also follow school buses from time to time and issue tickets to any drivers they see passing a stopped school bus.

I have only a minor problem with this. The owner of the vehicle, not necessarily the driver, is the one who gets the ticket if the violation is called in by the driver. The same will be true of cameras. This procedure will get the driver somewhere around 95-99% of the time and seems to be just as fair as red light and speed cameras.

But a $1000.00 fine in the mail.....come on!

So are you saying a child's live is not worth a thousand dollars?

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Where did I say that?

BobDee wrote:
jackj180 wrote:

But a $1000.00 fine in the mail.....come on!

So are you saying a child's live is not worth a thousand dollars?

Where in any of what I wrote did I say anything about how much a life is worth? Can you quote it or point it out to me?

No you can't because that isn't what I said. So stop trying to put words in my mouth! People like you really get my blood up!

different than red light cameras

Somehow I think these bus cameras are different. Red light cameras - the only real justification is revenue, while the school bus cameras are a real safety issue - arent just sitting there "waiting", and its a situation where the bus driver has other things they should and are focused on other than watching for violations. As much as I cant stand the red light camera concept, this seems different.

No

BobDee wrote:

So are you saying a child's live is not worth a thousand dollars?

No, but ANYBODY (even a child) can be killed when running a stop sign...anywhere. The $1000 fine IS excessive for running a stop sign when nothing else happens, whether it's on a school bus or not. If a child gets hit, THEN go for the big league charges. We aren't into "pre-crimes"...or crimes that were never committed...yet... Think about it... Does one get hammered any worse for running a stop sign in front of a retirement home because some old lady MIGHT have been hit? No...

Same goes for the ridiculous felony charge for the second time of only running a stop sign when NO other ancillary damage occurred... Sure, if a kid gets killed then go for the felony vehicular manslaughter/homicide charges, but NOT if nothing other than running the stop sign occurs.

Bus Driver Abuse causes road rage? there are no excuses!

dobs108 wrote:

At a local school on a busy two-way street, bus drivers are turning on the flashing red lights simply to make a left turn to enter the school driveway. When a long line of buses is waiting to leave the driveway, and the street has heavy traffic, an empty bus stops on the street and turns on the red lights to stop traffic, then 20 or more buses turn into the street while drivers in cars are becoming enraged. How can school bus drivers demand complete compliance with the law by car drivers when they flout the law every day?

dobs108 Nassau County NY mad

Make your Complaints to the superintendent of schools, the Person in charge of the systems Buses, school principle or even the local Highway Patrol, all of them as a matter of fact.
Becoming road raged is not the answer, doing something about it is,so the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
As long as the lights are flashing and the stop paddles are out, you must stop. No excuses!

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You honestly think

You honestly think complaining to ANY government type authority in NEW YORK, of all places, is going to do anything? Seriously???

no?

sviking wrote:
BobDee wrote:

So are you saying a child's live is not worth a thousand dollars?

No, but ANYBODY (even a child) can be killed when running a stop sign...anywhere. The $1000 fine IS excessive for running a stop sign when nothing else happens, whether it's on a school bus or not. If a child gets hit, THEN go for the big league charges. We aren't into "pre-crimes"...or crimes that were never committed...yet... Think about it... Does one get hammered any worse for running a stop sign in front of a retirement home because some old lady MIGHT have been hit? No...

Same goes for the ridiculous felony charge for the second time of only running a stop sign when NO other ancillary damage occurred... Sure, if a kid gets killed then go for the felony vehicular manslaughter/homicide charges, but NOT if nothing other than running the stop sign occurs.

It's not a stop sign it's a school bus loaded with children, just Stop and there will be no problem.
Don't make an excuse for this, these are children and some have attention span of a fly.

Your an adult I believe! follow the law that was stated when you took your drivers test! you do have a drivers license, I'm I correct in assuming that?
Maybe the written test should be administered every two years just so everyone remembers the laws to start with.

Your license is a privilege some thing you seem to forget when you made your statement
"Same goes for the ridiculous felony charge for the second time of only running a stop sign."
Hmmmmm, Only running a stop sign? I see where your frame of mind is coming from, Ridiculous I think not.

You said, Sure, if a kid gets killed then go for the felony vehicular manslaughter/homicide charges, but NOT if nothing other than running the stop sign occurs.
Hmmmmmmm, Do we really want to wait for a child to be killed by you for running passed a stopped school bus with Flashing Red lights and stop paddles out to the side, when you plainly took a test that stated you understood the law? Again I think not.

$1000.00 is not enough to save a child's life.
Get it now?

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then

then move out of New York.
But make sure drive responsibly where ever you move.

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Directing Traffic

jackj180 wrote:
dobs108 wrote:

At a local school on a busy two-way street, bus drivers are turning on the flashing red lights simply to make a left turn to enter the school driveway. When a long line of buses is waiting to leave the driveway, and the street has heavy traffic, an empty bus stops on the street and turns on the red lights to stop traffic, then 20 or more buses turn into the street while drivers in cars are becoming enraged. How can school bus drivers demand complete compliance with the law by car drivers when they flout the law every day?

dobs108 Nassau County NY mad

What is the difference between that and a someone directing traffic? The crossing guard at our schools stops traffic on the street to let the school buses in or out of the parking lots everyday. It is quicker and safer than everyone-for-themselves that you seem to want.

Directing traffic is an activity done in compliance with the law. A school bus driver who opens the door, turning on the flashing red lights, not to pick up or discharge children, but just to gain an advantage in traffic, is violating the law.

dobs108

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I made my comment earlier and have been watching as people somehow try to equate a $1,000 fine arriving by mail with the injury of a child.

As has been pointed out, the fine does nothing to prevent the injury that would have been inflicted had a child been hit by a car running the barrier, however the reality is that by sending a $1,000 fine, the child would not have been protected - the driver was still passing the stopped bus.

I personally equate camera-based, zero-point invoices for traffic violations as simply paid-for passes to break the law - run the light and hope that the image isn't clear on the film, but be prepared to pay the fine - beyond the monetary issues, there is no downside.

And THAT's why people are not happy with mechanised enforcement.

There ARE some good reasons for running lights and signs - medical emergencies being among them. But with a camera-based system you have no opportunity to present your excuse to your accuser - and the court system is a real time-waster because it is in the government's best interests to make it as complicated as possible to contest your infraction.

A police officer can not only be compassionate, he might also escort the driver to the hospital.

A camera simply generates a bill, often to someone other than the offender.

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you made a comment earlier

bramfrank wrote:

I made my comment earlier and have been watching as people somehow try to equate a $1,000 fine arriving by mail with the injury of a child.

As has been pointed out, the fine does nothing to prevent the injury that would have been inflicted had a child been hit by a car running the barrier, however the reality is that by sending a $1,000 fine, the child would not have been protected - the driver was still passing the stopped bus.

You comment was spot on! the $1000.00 fine would hit anyone deep in his or her pocket and would be a complete fool to run another stopped bus with the stop paddles out and flashing red lights, at which time if they did their license should also be lifted for period of time.

As far as an emergency is concerned, I would imagine anyone with a half a brain would still make the stop before proceeding through any stop. For their own safety as well as the children.

Hopefully A police officer doesn't have to be compassionate and take a child to the hospital,when a person drives passed a stopped bus.

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Russian Roulette

sviking wrote:
WalkThisWay wrote:

I'm for protecting the kids and the camera. A grand seems a little too much, though.

Definitely and a FELONY for the second time? As in losing voting and firearm ownership rights? WAY too severe, especially if there is no traffic incident other than running the bus stop sign.

The difference between a traffic incident and no traffic incident, is if a kid steps out in front of the school bus at the time. That's like playing Russian Roulette with one of our kids.

It becomes a felony after the second offense. Personally anyone that is careless enough to do this more than once deserves it.

In Ontario the fines are $400 to $2000 for first offense and $1000 to $400 for the second plus the option of a jail sentence.

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Okay, so all of you in favor

Okay, so all of you in favor of this...what about DUIs? People can do MUCH more damage driving smashed for, what? 30, 45 minutes? An hour+? How many of you would support a FELONY charge for the second offense, even if no accident occurred? Why isn't that currently in the law across the country? US only... I couldn't care less about Canada...

mmullins98 wrote: While

mmullins98 wrote:

While watching the local news tonight they did a piece on cameras in School Buses. The cameras swing out with the stop sign on the bus when the bus stops in the street to let kids on or off. Passing the bus takes your picture and you know what comes in the mail.

The fine was stated to be $1000.00 for first offense and a Felony for second offense. The legislation may not be passed but they already have the cameras in some school buses.

Interesting, there really should be an extendable arm (that the driver can decide to activate or not) though as extra insurance.

Stopped bus and traffic

If the only way to get the buses to or from school in a reasonable time is for them to park one out there to stop traffic so that the buses can proceed safely, so be it.

I hate getting a phone call from the wife because the kids have not been dropped off yet and it is 20 minutes past the regular drop off time. Yes things happen and can cause a bus to be late. These drivers have taken an oath of sorts to keep our kids safe during transport.

Maybe the community cannot afford to have a police man/woman stand out there to direct traffic. Maybe the road is too dangerous to have someone standing out there unprotected. Maybe they already have permission from the local police department and highway department to do this because it may be the safest way to get the school buses on and off the school property.

As mentioned, has the school system or the police been called to see if they are in the right or are you just arguing because you make it a habit of passing a stopped school and your habit is about to get real expensive.

Again no matter if the camera is on a bus, traffic light, or other intersection if you are supposed to stop, stop, it is the law.

Seattle school bus driver

I wonder what they're going to do (if anything) about the school bus driver who gunned down to fly past me so that he could pull the stop sign on me.

I had a nasty feeling about stopping next to this guy's window, so I made a quick left onto the first street I could turn.

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spider_elliott wrote:

I wonder what they're going to do (if anything) about the school bus driver who gunned down to fly past me so that he could pull the stop sign on me.

I had a nasty feeling about stopping next to this guy's window, so I made a quick left onto the first street I could turn.

Did you make a Police report? Let us know the results!

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BobDee

BobDee wrote:
spider_elliott wrote:

I wonder what they're going to do (if anything) about the school bus driver who gunned down to fly past me so that he could pull the stop sign on me.

I had a nasty feeling about stopping next to this guy's window, so I made a quick left onto the first street I could turn.

Did you make a Police report? Let us know the results!

I don't believe that is what BobDee said. It is the shortest thing he ever wrote!

dobs108

I'm surprised no one has yet

I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned problems with the bus drivers THEMSELVES as a danger to our children. Where I lived back east, drivers were being arrested for DUI (or on coke, meth, etc), driving with a suspended CDL or NO CDL, driving buses they weren't certified on, driving overloaded buses or buses in poor condition (they are responsible for the "pre-flight" inspection) etc. All WITH children aboard. Several were injured in incidents. Some were even killed. Some of these drivers received no punishment and are BACK ON THE ROAD.

Instead, we're worried about a little stop sign thing with a HUGE initial fine and loss of ESSENTIAL God-given liberties/rights on the very second "offense"...even if nothing happened...because a sign popped out...legally or not...look at all the stories of "rogue bus drivers" and their signs just in this thread. rolleyes

Yup

dobs108 wrote:

I don't believe that is what BobDee said. It is the shortest thing he ever wrote!

dobs108

I'm a relative newcomer and even I noticed that.

??

sviking wrote:

I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned problems with the bus drivers THEMSELVES as a danger to our children. Where I lived back east, drivers were being arrested for DUI (or on coke, meth, etc), driving with a suspended CDL or NO CDL, driving buses they weren't certified on, driving overloaded buses or buses in poor condition (they are responsible for the "pre-flight" inspection) etc. All WITH children aboard. Several were injured in incidents. Some were even killed. Some of these drivers received no punishment and are BACK ON THE ROAD.

Instead, we're worried about a little stop sign thing with a HUGE initial fine and loss of ESSENTIAL God-given liberties/rights on the very second "offense"...even if nothing happened...because a sign popped out...legally or not...look at all the stories of "rogue bus drivers" and their signs just in this thread. rolleyes

May I ask your age?
a little stop sign thing? That statement kind of give you away!

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This is starting to degrade

This is starting to degrade into bickering, knock it off guys.

Miss POI

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Maryan, I agree complely with you! Just the facts as they are..

Buses will have cameras to protect your children and my grandchildren from people that want to believe they are above the law for some reason.

Rules You Need to Know
When driving near school buses, remember:

  • It is against the law to pass a stopped school bus while its lights are flashing and its stop arm is extended.
  • On undivided roadways, with no physical barrier or median, vehicles must stop on both sides of the roadway.
  • Yellow flashing lights indicate that the bus is preparing to load or unload children. Motorists should slow down and prepare to stop their vehicles.
  • Red flashing lights and extended stop arms indicate that the bus has stopped, and children are getting on or off. Motorists approaching from either direction must wait until the red lights stop flashing before proceeding.
  • Learn and obey the "alternately flashing warning light" system that school bus drivers use to alert motorists.
  • I would recommend, a file that shows school districts using this technoly. Not nessarly a POI file.

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