Using "Speed-Cameras.csv" file with POI Loader in manual mode

 

Pardon the newbie question here, but I'm a little confused about the speed alerts and would like to be sure that things will behave as I expect.

I see that the Speed-Cameras.csv file has speed information in column 3, but it is not preceded by an "@". I would like the default alert behavior of a 36-second warning before a speed camera, dependent on present speed. It would be even better if it only alerted while I was (inadvertently) exceeding the posted speed limit or the speed listed for that camera.

With this in mind: will setting a speed alert of 0 in POI Loader's manual mode facilitate this, or will I just get a speed alert within 36 seconds of the enforcement camera no matter what speed I am traveling? Is manual mode with a setting of 0 the same as automatic mode?

Can I get this to work the way I'd like if I edit the csv file and put the "@" in on every line, i.e., "@50MPH"?

I was playing with another set of POI speed camera/speed trap alert files a while back (Trapster), and had manually set a proximity alert of around 2000 feet or so in POI Loader. One really annoying problem that surfaced was if you were stopped in traffic within the proximity distance of the area in question, you would get an alert every time you started moving. Then when you stopped and started moving again, you'd get another alert. I can only assume that setting a manual speed of say, 20 MPH, would stop this from happening as long as you were below that speed.

Can someone set me straight on this? I think I almost get it. 8)

Thanks,

- Phil

That should work

I haven't had an opportunity to "test" the speed camera file, as there aren't any in my normal areas of travel. That said, my understanding is that if you enter a value into the field when manually running POI Loader, you will receive your warning at that speed above the camera speed limit. As per your example, if you put "0" (zero) in the field, when you approach a camera location and are at any speed above the file's camera speed, you will get an alert. I typically use 10mph as a threshold speed.

The same works for proximity alerts, for Red Light Cameras, for instance. I enter 500 feet as the warning distance (the default is 1320, or a quarter mile) and I get an alert about 500 feet prior to arriving at the light.

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Try this

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/19045

I have been using this now for almost 1 yr and it works great.

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Speed alert

Others have told you to add an '@' symbol just before the speed. You can do this using Excel and the "Find & Replace" function. This will give you an alert when you are exceeding the speed set on that line. The alert will sound around 1/4 mile from the camera, depending on your speed of approach but only if you are traveling faster than the set speed.

Renaming the file with the keyword "Redlight" in the file name should alert you when you approach a speed camera regardless of your speed. Then, if you are over the speed limit, it should sound another alarm.

Jack j

red light cameras

I just came on board today and downloaded the red light and camera to my nuvi 360. Does this mean I have to do something else to get a proximity alert?

Red light and speed camera file download.

bbrown94 ... when you say "downloaded the red light and camera to my nuvi 360" do you mean that you copied the files you downloaded directly to your 360? If so, that is not the correct procedure. The files are downloaded to your computer, then you use Garmin's POILoader program to import them into your nuvi as a .GPI file.

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About Speed Cameras

There are a few things to understand about both speed and red light cameras and alerts. Looking at POILoader's help file you see that both of these files generate an alert just because they have a keyword as their name.

Now you can play with these, set a distance alert for red light cameras - the default is too far. I set mine for about 215 meters or 650 feet. That's about 3/4 of a standard city block.

Speed cameras are different. These will, like red light cameras always alert. You can change the alert from a repeating alert to a standard alert by setting a speed. This is where the @ sign comes in. Not all cameras have a speed notation, so you need to set a default for those.

Ramcruzer has already provided the link to the Excel formula that will find a speed and insert the @ for those lines with a speed. For all the others, the simple trick is to include a default speed in the file name. For example, Speed Cameras 25.csv will set a default speed of 25 MPH. If you approach a camera that does not have the posted speed limit as part of the record, then the alert will sound once if you are below 25, or continuously if you are going over 25. If you don't set a default speed, POILoader assumes a default speed of ZERO MPH. That means if you are moving, you are exceeding the default and you will get continuous alerts.

Gary Hayman has a lot more on setting alerts on his web site.

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download

Thanks I did download to computer and then used Garmin POIloader.

red light cameras

Thanks, all this is very interesting. I appreciate the help. As I try my Nuvi tomorrow I will probably come back for more help

Simulate

bbrown94 wrote:

Thanks, all this is very interesting. I appreciate the help. As I try my Nuvi tomorrow I will probably come back for more help

If you familiarize yourself with the "simulation" feature of your gps, you can test everything in the comfort of your home without burning gas.

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Thanks! And just to be sure I understand...

Wow. A bunch of great info (and folks) here.

Last night, I added the @ sign in front of the speeds for all of the POI names with Excel, loaded it in manual mode with a speed of 0 and it appears that things are working as expected.

Now, I assume that the speed of zero entered into POI Loader means nothing unless a POI entry does not have @Speed in the name. With that in mind, if I had loaded the file and specified a speed of say... 20, then every POI entry without @Speed in the name would alert if you were traveling faster than 20, while all of the other points would be unaffected and alert above their @Speed entry, correct?

Again, thanks to everyone who responded. It's amazing what you can make these things do with a little help. smile

- Phil

You are correct

pquesinb wrote:

Now, I assume that the speed of zero entered into POI Loader means nothing unless a POI entry does not have @Speed in the name. With that in mind, if I had loaded the file and specified a speed of say... 20, then every POI entry without @Speed in the name would alert if you were traveling faster than 20, while all of the other points would be unaffected and alert above their @Speed entry, correct?

Again, thanks to everyone who responded. It's amazing what you can make these things do with a little help. smile

- Phil

Close - you will get an alert for every camera. It is the type of alert that changes. If a camera has no speed setting, you will get the 'urgent' alert or repeating alert until you pass the camera. If the camera contains an @ sign, you will receive an urgent alert if you are over the speed. With a setting of 20 in the speed setting for POILoader, you will receive an urgent warning for every camera that does NOT have an @ sign and you are exceeding that speed.

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New Speed Camera list for Baltimore City

I'm very new. I have this list and it's all intersections. 51 lines of them. How do I easily get Log and Lat ? How to I upload it ? It's in Excel format.
Thanks

Another resource is

http://home.comcast.net/~ghayman3/garmin.gps/pagepoi.htm#pag...

Gary is a frequent poster here and he has compiled a ton of information about the nüvi and how to do things. This particular link takes you to his Custom POI section.

It is important to understand how keywords, symbols and numbers in filenames and in individual line entries effect how the nüvi will interpret them and provide alerts.

A simple "1" that has caught some of us was when I had downloaded a POI file and then later downloaded its updated, but identically named copy into the same directory; the 2nd copy had a 1 appended to it. I now had Walmart.csv and Walmart1.csv. Without giving it much thought I deleted the older Walmart and kept Walmart1 and then ran POI Loader. It took a few days for the light in the head to come on as to why I was getting a speed alert for 1 mph every time I passed near a Walmart! redface

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