Let's hear from you,

Garmin is headquartered on Olathe, Kansas. I really can't tell you much else.

probably as American as General Motors or General Electric

According to the information they provide to the Securities Exchange Commission, Garmin is headquartered in George Town, Cayman Islands. Their venture incorporated with Taiwanese capital.

Krieger.

Is that some people just CAN'T resist the urge to stir the pot.

Stirring the pot is good. Like soup, the best stuff settles at the bottom.

And what Pot is that your stirring there ka?
you have a Magellan Maestro!

Bob

I consider myself to be reasonably patriotic, but I doubt that there is such a thing as an all American anything anymore, and that isn't completely bad. We live in pretty much of a world community and it isn't surprising that parts of my General Electric refrigerator and General Motors vehicles are filled with various parts from all over the globe. Even individually, my wristwatch comes from Japan, my TV from Korea, much of my clothing from Italy, my trumpet from France and my cars were assembled in Coventry and Sindelfingen and contain many American parts. I am content that Garmin delivers a good product and follows with fine customer support. It would be nice if all companies could do the same and be all American too, but ..........

Everything you wanted to know about Garmin is available on their web site... (Most publicly traded companies have an 'Investor Relations' link somewhere on the home page).

http://www8.garmin.com/stock/

From there you can find out specific things like where they are headquartered and who runs the company:

http://www8.garmin.com/aboutGarmin/facilities.html

http://www8.garmin.com/aboutGarmin/invRelations/execBios.htm...

I for one am glad that my Garmin is not all American. If my Garmin was built entirely in America the cost of the unit would probably be $5000.

If you or anyone else doesn't like dealing with "non" American companies, then don't buy their products. Pretty simple really.

Can anyone name one?

A quick google search led me to this site

http://www.madeinusa.org/nav.cgi?

It's not 100% accurate, I pulled up the electronics tab and right off the bat saw stuff which I know is made with foreign parts and/or made in foreign countries.

electronic companies need to be global these days or they just can't succeed. nothing wrong with that.

First of all, it says right on my 770 that it's designed in the USA and made in Taiwan. Not something unusual -- like iPods which say something similar but are made in China. This is very very common. My Archos player's site says "Designed in France, built in China".

Secondly, as mentioned Garmin LTD is registered in the Caymans. Not unusual either -- they seem to be either in Delaware or the Caymans, even though none of the people involved probably even visited those places (but lawyer surrogates perhaps did). Tax reasons.

Most of the things on the question list are easily answered by anybody with access to the internet who wants to know and I'll leave it at that. I suggest BobDee try google and Garmin's website.

Wow Gadget Guy, I didn't say That, You seem to be putting words in my mouth, or this time trying to do the typing for me.
I don't remember saying that
"I don't like dealing with non American companies". Hmmmm I don't believe I even came close to saying that. However it does appear you called them a non American Company is that true?

Bob

BobDee, I just typed a lengthy reply to your original message, but I think I'd better ask first.

What IS the purpose of your posting? Why does it matter to you if Garmin is "All American", is there any relevance there?

I'm sure there's LOTS of confused people here, such as myself, or is this a Political Peeing contest to see who here is a Patriot, and who isn't, I'm really not sure the value?

Please explain.

It's a global economy, with many foreign companies making major investments in the U.S. and employing Americans.

My wife's '08 Honda Civic EX was built by well-paid Americans, with good benefits, at West Liberty, Ohio, about 50 miles from my home. The quality is top notch.

The sticker shows it was built of 70 percent American parts (more U.S. jobs) and 30 percent Japanese parts. Should one not touch a product, regardless of quality (i.e., Garmin), unless the company and all parts are 100 percent American?

Good luck buying a car, even those by GM, Ford or Chrysler-Daimler, or most any other product, with that standard.

American/not American/partially American. Buy the product(s) if they are acceptable quality for acceptable prices for your needs. Shop elsewhere if they're not.

All American, as in #1 the choice of Americans is what is meant by the title. But do they really deserve that title?

I really don't care where it's made, as long as it quality, and Garmin is a Quality product no doubt there. I don't care what is imported and sold here in our country, as long as it don't poison our children. what I do have a problem with is business practices that everyone is overlooking. So lets let this ride a while longer and see if others see the point.

Just Google and really look at the company, not the products they make.

Bob

You know darn well your title and post were meant to stir people up.

Since when is a company called "All American" just because they sell the most product??

I think Miss POI should delete this thread, it really has no redeeming value to this site.

It seems that your version of "All American" and most of the rest of us, are 2 different things.

"All American" the way I read it in this case, would mean that Garmin Designed, Manufactured, and was based all within the US. Wouldn't that be defined as an All American company?

but the way you state it, is that basically ANY company would be called "All American" as long as it's the number one choice by Americans. So Lets say for arguments sake, that Toyota sold more cars to Americans than any other company, would they then become an "All American" company? Even though they are Clearly Japanese?

That's some messed up thinking, right there.

Harley Davidson has parts made in Japan.

Is a loaded one. Bait for argument.

Other Answers:
1) Olathe KS
2) Depends on the product group - their current employment listings show engineering jobs in a variety of locations in N. America.
3) SE Asia
4) See 3
5) See 3
6) Olathe & Kansas City - plus other centers where they have major operations
7) They get some map data from Naveteq plus they have in-house cartography
8) I don't know.

Hope this helps.

whatever, go head and bash rather than read..

Bob

And why would she want to delete the the thread because you said so Gadetguy? what gives the right to ask that I be deleted, do we need to go through this again?

I Asked some questions, don't enter the thread if you don't like it.

What is the point?

only if you insist that it does, I don't think it was meant to, just to educated, you got a few answers wrong by the way.

However I don't want to come across as being argumentative with you, so I won't.
You will have to wait to see why I posted what I did

Bob

"You will have to wait to see why I posted what I did"

I won't bother with this thread anymore.

I don't like your attitude.

Instead of making obscure comments, why don't you provide a link to the google article(s) you are referencing.

*Please tell me you are not all worked up about this http://www.velonews.com/article/83967

Worded the way the original post was, it qualifies as a "troll". Don't feed the troll.

I agree Honda is a great car, made in the USA with USA labor. You missed the point, I never said a company had to be all American, What I said was Garmin the All American Company. I just asked some questions. And so far Keith came the closest to trying to answer them.

May I ask why you are making this personal?

Is that because you do not support freedom of speech?

okay, I decided to play the literal game. Yes, Garmin is the 'All American Company' and here's why:

It’s one thing to run four half marathons in the span of two months. It’s quite another to win every one of them. Garmin associate and All-American Mathew Chesang is keeping up his streak since his days leading the Kansas State University cross-country team from 2001-2004. Mathew’s most recent win was last Saturday in Duluth, Minnesota—the Garry Bjorklund half marathon, run in conjunction with Grandma’s Marathon. His time of 1:04:48 was a PR and while we’d like to think his new Forerunner 405 helped him achieve a PR, the reality is this guy’s just crazy fast. It’s in the Kenyan genes he shares with his brother, who currently runs for the University of Kansas. Mathew’s previous wins in 2008 were the Hospital Hill half marathon in Kansas City, the Cleveland, Ohio half and the St. Louis half. And those aren’t his only top placements. He has quite an impressive running resume and has rubbed racing flats with other young and aspiring runners, like Ryan Hall, who’ll represent the U.S. men’s marathon team in Beijing this summer. Mathew actually beat Hall in an NCAA meet several years ago. What’s next on Mathew’s race schedule? Stay tuned—the streak has just begun.

This is nothing but a marketing gimmick: Unlike the "Made in" label that is required by law to indicate place of origin, "Designed in" has no regulation whatsoever. Companies are not required to disclose, or prove (since it would be nearly impossible to anyway), where or by who did a company design a product. So any statements such as "designed in", "inspired by" only reflect what the marketing department wants the consumer to perceive.

Taxes indeed, since incorporating in the Cayman Islands guarantees a company tax exemption for 20 years, keeping it in the corporation's pocket. The Cayman Islands attracts companies this way and receives revenue by having a fixed currency exchange of 1.20 US Dollars to 1 Cayman Dollar.

Also, The Caymans have not joined the Hague Convention, and therefore, do not recognize foreign judgments, such as those issued from US-antitrust laws. This is somewhat similar to what happened in the controversial case of AMD v. Intel, in which the the US court deemed an "International commerce" case.

http://money.cnn.com/blogs/legalpad/pdf/motiontodismiss/

Krieger

That would be a very good reason. However thats not where I was going with this whole discussion.
Thanks for playing.
Bob

Tarkus,
Your are so right, thanks so much.
My original thought was to educate, however for some that can't be done, because they just get angry and call people names like children do.

I was called a Troll, said I should be censored and told I had a bad attitude,just because I asked some questions. Go figure I use the same equipment as these people, I just don't have a brand loyalty, and well that's to dang bad.

there is a difference between "All American" as in good corporate citizen, supporter of community causes and American ideals and "all American" meaning all parts made in America. The clear import of your original question was aimed at the latter whether you realize it or not...the subtle shift to the former makes me believe a bit of deflection occurred on your part.

I probably agree with your politics more than most around here but that does not thrust me into your semantical corner on this one.

Regards, Ted

It's not what you said but HOW you said it.
And I don't believe for one second that you don't know that already.

Your original post was done in a fashion designed to be confrontational and to create a heated discussion. That is trolling.

The management has already expressed a desire NOT to do things like that here. If you continue to choose to ignore those "rules" then, yes, I think you should be GONE.

The owners of this forum have every right to make their own rules AND every right to censor posts that don't conform to those rules. What part of that don't you understand ?? I see it as a GOOD thing.

Exactly how did I say it that offended you?

So you beleive it ok to call other members of this comunity Names (Troll) , and not be gone for that?

Just don't click the thread, what part of that don't you understand?

Krieger,
First Off I want to thank you very much for your intuit way of using Google. you found the answer with out spewing hate & anger. Instead you looked at what I was asking and got down to finding the answer. Again Great job on solving this brain teaser.

To those that spewed the hate and the personal attacks. all I can say is.. tsk tsk tsk..

Another set of questions to come soon!
and if you don't want to play in the future
do what Keith has done and Bow out.

Bob

This riddle has been solved!
And Garmin is Not the All American Company after all!
just doing their business in the United States.

More riddles to come in the future!

Dear Bob,

This seems a rather contentious area. If Pandora's Box were opened, might we feel compelled to point out that an "All American Company" like Cracker Barrel should be boycotted (as many do, including myself). Here at The Factory, we provide a service to those who want to find Cracker Barrel or their local Krupp Factory.

http://www.codoh.com/incon/inconosven2.html

I am sure this has all been motivated by a desire for scientific enterprise as begun by our great All American Father of Space: Doctor Braun.

Your brother in intellectual enquiry, david

P.S. Halliburton is an All American Company. VP Chaney says it is despite having moved its corporate headquarters to Dubai. He should know -- he owns some of it and used to run it.

You've made it clear to me exactly what type of person you are.

Miss POI asked me for some help to look over this thread, and I've reopened the discussion.

As individuals in a community, we may not always agree. Be friendly and positive in your approach, and don't argue just for sport.

JM

And if more games appear in the future, I suggest no one play.

I for one will not.

+1

I've got a TomTom!

Bob, don't keep us waiting too long now!

Mike

That is, no doubt, the best solution.
There are, however, enough users here now that it probably won't work.

Bait comes in many different flavors and someone will almost always bite.
SIGH!

Lets try this a different way, to avoid all the hostility & drama. IF you don't want to play then don't and just leave now.

If you figure out the answer, do this, use my contact button and let me know your answer. I will let everyone know the total number of answers given and the person with the correct answer along with the answer.

Google not needed to figure out the answer on this one! Just some math skills.

Good Luck
Bob

Find the two values of f for which the equation
8x^2 + 6xy - 5y^2 + 4x + 2fy - 4 = 0 represents straight lines.
Find the area of the parallelogram formed by the four lines so obtained.

Um, no it's not, ka1167. There's no definition of "trolling" that means "to be confrontational" or "to create a heated discussion."

Secondly, I wouldn't describe Bob's initial post as confrontational at all. Controversial, maybe, but certainly not confrontational. And who says we can't have some good natured fun with controversial topics?

How about the irony of the situation and the timing of the events leading to the arrest and conviction of OJ Simpson for Armed robbery and Kidnapping. He could have been up for parole about now, if originally convicted for murder, thus never have been able to be in Las Vegas to participate in these crimes.

Once a thug always a thug! He just thought he got away with murder. He has been in his own personal prison since his acquittal.

He was convicted of an armed robbery that happened on Sept. 13 and was found guilty on the 13th anniversary of his Los Angeles murder acquittal. The Las Vegas jury deliberated for 13 hours after a 13-day trial.

This couldn't have happened to a nicer Guy. (Not)

Bob