Macintosh and Parallels woes

 

No doubt you have read the tales of woe regarding Parallels recent modification of the USB drivers so the Garmin Nuvi units (and I presume others) no longer connect to the virtual machines "Macworld December 2007 p 22". The Garmin units do connect to the native OS X environment (in my case OS X10.5 Leopard).

I have not found the Parallels techs to be very responsive, so I guess we wait for a solution.....

VMware Fusion better?

I don't have an Intel Mac but I have been hearing that people have been happy with VMware Fusion. This MacWorld VMware Fusion Review says that is works with GPS units and has better USB support than Parallels.

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Brent - DriveLuxe 51 LMT-S

VMWare et al...

I may load an evaluation copy if there is delayed action from the Parallels team. With the release of Mac OSx 10.5, there is some unpredictability with each product (although the USB issue has been in Parallels since V2.5)

Garmin 760, Leopard and Parallels

I have as listed above with the lastest Parallels build as of this post. I did fuss for a bit to get it all working, but in the end it does quite well. I can offer a few tips.

1) you must choose which OS you want to let the Nuvi mount in (I only have experience with the 670 and 760). For example you cannot set the USB drivers of Parallels to ask you every time a USB device connected what you want them to do. This doesn't seem to work. You must say ignore or claim for windows... those are the only two options which work. Now that said...
For me I have windows grab any USB device for itself when it's running. This makes most things work reasonable well. If you want to mount things Mac side instead... just make sure Parallels isn't running (not even paused) when you connect a device like a Nuvi.

2) Use a clean install of XP on Parallels to install Garmin software (like mapsource, etc). You can have things installed already that may interfere.. and this list is large....

Given the top suggestions I've also learned a few things about the Mac software... MapInstall is not worth the time... if you have Parallels... Mapsource is the preferred method if you have a lot of maps to install/modify. however... POI loader for Mac (beta) works fine.

I have Marine Blue Charts, Topos for Canada, Enhanced Canadian Base Map, Recreation Canada version and the North American NT 2008 installed and I had to do any real map adding on the windows side. The MacInstall app handles the small ones ok... but not the big ones (even with the 2024 limit respected).

Thats about all I can offer at this point as assistance... if you still need help email me and I'll see what I can do.

Chris Ursulak

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-- Nuvi 760 with FM Traffic, MacbookPro CoreDuo, Leopard 10.5.1

Thanks

I'll give it another go! ...this is currently not my main platform, so I had to abandon testing for a while. ...too bad work is an interference!

Win XP-Pro is a clean install with Office 2003 SP-3 and corporate Symantec antivirus 10.1. I was alerted to the USB assignment message and configured accordingly.

I tend to use poiloader on Win XP due to some unique proximity choices for rl and speed cam alerts. ...Starting to work with MapSource to do some routing on the 7xx series. Also plan to work with the Mexico GPS Atlas from www.Mexicomaps.com and will need to prepare an SD card for the maps after a download from the site.

650 Leopard and Parallels USB

Chris, you said-
"...For me I have windows grab any USB device for itself when it's running. This makes most things work reasonable well....."

How do you set Parallels/Windows to grab the USB ? I don't have any trouble with other USB devices connecting to parallels if I just plug them in after starting Parallels, but when I try this with the nuvi, I get a "this device is in use by another application..." type error.

Peter DeGroot

650, Leopard and Parallels USB, pt 2

OK- I found where to set the USB port to always connect to Guest Operating system (Configuration Editor), and the nuvi 650 and its SD card connect to Windows XP.

Now the problem is, they won't disconnect. When you right-click and try to eject either one, the "My Computer" window locks up, and I get a "My Computer is not responding" error if I try to close the window.

I did find a work-around. Click End the Task when the Not Responding error pops up. About 30 seconds later the Start icon and taskbar reappear at the bottom of the main window. Stop the virtual machine. About 15 seconds later the nuvi and sd card images appear on the Mac desktop, and I can eject them there.

I think I'll stick to loading POIs directly onto the SD card via a card reader, which always behaves properly when connected to Parallels/XP. If they would implement the Manual mode features of POI Loader in the Mac version, I wouldn't have to use Parallels at all. I suppose it could be worse: I could be dealing with Vista rather than XP on top of everything else.

Peter DeGroot

Forgive me for butting in

Forgive me for butting in guys but I'm trying to understand why you would want to connect your Nuvi via Parallels or VMFusion Ware on an Intel Mac. I have a Intel Mac too and using all Garmin applications can do everything I want using Leopard 10.5.2 on a Nuvi 360. I can update POIs using POI Loader, Update the system using Web Updater and even use Bobcat to download single POI's that are simply waypoints.

I have VM Fusion Ware loaded on my Mac running Windows XP Pro only for WIndows only applications. For GPS needs I don't have any reason to run Windows at all.

Are you saying a Nuvi 650 cannot download POIs using POI Loader? If so sounds very odd.

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Nuvi 360, OS X Lion 10.7

Ask and thou shalt receive.

oregonpete wrote:

If they would implement the Manual mode features of POI Loader in the Mac version, I wouldn't have to use Parallels at all.

The POI Loader beta version 2.0.2.1 which offers the manual mode is still available via cnet's versiontracker site:
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/3221

Not sure why Garmin removed it from their site, but it always worked fine for me and others here.

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Nuvi 660 -- and not upgrading it or maps until Garmin fixes long-standing bugs/problems, and get maps to where they are much more current, AND corrected on a more timely basis when advised of mistakes.

Mostly Mac yes... but

I would agree that I try and stay on the Mac side as well. I can do almost everything from the Mac side and rarely use windows for my Nuvi 760. However there have been several instances when I've had to.

The Mac Mapinstall cannot handle large maps well. I have put topos and marine blue charts on my Nuvi as well and the Mac side just stalls trying to install them. Do this from windows and it works just fine. I believe there is a memory leak or mapping issue still in the Mac products. So for small things they work as expected, but large maps where you're pushing the 1024 limit don't work.

That's the only reason I've set them up on both.

cheers
chris

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-- Nuvi 760 with FM Traffic, MacbookPro CoreDuo, Leopard 10.5.1

Mac POI Loader

rkaufmann87 wrote:

Are you saying a Nuvi 650 cannot download POIs using POI Loader? If so sounds very odd.

What I am saying is that my version of the Mac POI Loader won't work in the Manual mode where you can set speed and/or proximity alerts for POIs. Sorry if this wasn't clear.

Turns out I was using version 2.0.1, which is what is available on Garmin's website. However, bentbikers subsequent post pointed me to the 2.0.2.1beta, which has the Manual mode. I just downloaded it and tried it, and it worked fine. BTW- a digit got clipped off the URL that bentbiker provided. It should be:
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/32218

Peter

Thanks

oregonpete wrote:

BTW- a digit got clipped off the URL that bentbiker provided. It should be:
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/32218

Peter

Thanks, Peter -- that explains all the hate mail I've been receiving. Glad it's working for you.

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Nuvi 660 -- and not upgrading it or maps until Garmin fixes long-standing bugs/problems, and get maps to where they are much more current, AND corrected on a more timely basis when advised of mistakes.