I see far too many people that see the Amber with plenty of time to brake, but figure that it's OK to go through on Red as long as it was Amber a microsecond before you crossed the Stop Line.
Why do we need the presence of a Red Light Camera to stop us from doing that?
-- DriveSmart 65, NUVI2555LMT, (NUVI350 is Now Retired)
I believe most people who intentionally do this see red lights as an inconvenience, despite their very necessary function. The cameras? Revenue enhancement, nothing more.
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I see far too many people that see the Amber with plenty of time to brake, but figure that it's OK to go through on Red as long as it was Amber a microsecond before you crossed the Stop Line.
Why do we need the presence of a Red Light Camera to stop us from doing that?
I see far too many people that see the Amber with plenty of time to brake, but figure that it's OK to go through on Red as long as it was Amber a microsecond before you crossed the Stop Line.
Why do we need the presence of a Red Light Camera to stop us from doing that?
In Philadelphia, PA I see the opposite. A lot of the traffic lights in Philly have walk signals attached to the setup, some people see the countdown to the "Don't Walk" signal as a stop or get a ticket kind of thing, even with plenty of time to have legally and safely make it through the intersection. You really have to be aware, watching for the people you see, or the stop now even though I have tons of time because the walk countdown has started folks, I've seen a few near rear end crashes because of the latter.
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plenty of time to have legally and safely make it through the intersection.
If I see yellow, I think I should stop if I safely can. Unfortunately too many people think whether they can get through the intersection before it is "red enough" to get them ticketed.
So part of my stopping safely on yellow is looking in my rearview mirror before I've got the brakes engaged very far checking for the chap behind me who thinks the other way about it.
plenty of time to have legally and safely make it through the intersection.
If I see yellow, I think I should stop if I safely can. Unfortunately too many people think whether they can get through the intersection before it is "red enough" to get them ticketed.
So part of my stopping safely on yellow is looking in my rearview mirror before I've got the brakes engaged very far checking for the chap behind me who thinks the other way about it.
With the walk signal countdown timers I mentioned I left out that the traffic light doesn't turn yellow until the timer hits zero, so some folks are stopping before the light turns yellow because the timer is counting down.
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2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep.
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In Ontario, the Amber triggers as soon as the pedestrian countdown hits Zero. If you are hitting the stop line when it hits "1", you can safely cross through the intersection.
Personally, it's pretty easy to determine that you're not going to get there before it hits "1". If that's the case, I start braking. I never accelerate to beat it and I try to slow gradually, to control the driver behind me.
However, Ontario and likely all provinces, do not stop Idiots from getting a license as long as they don't do an idiotic thing when they're with the drive tester. After that, the licensing office doesn't weed out the idiots. They get to keep their license.
I'm guessing it's much the same in the US.
-- DriveSmart 65, NUVI2555LMT, (NUVI350 is Now Retired)
plenty of time to have legally and safely make it through the intersection.
If I see yellow, I think I should stop if I safely can. Unfortunately too many people think whether they can get through the intersection before it is "red enough" to get them ticketed.
So part of my stopping safely on yellow is looking in my rearview mirror before I've got the brakes engaged very far checking for the chap behind me who thinks the other way about it.
Both of my kids, now 40+ years old, took Young Drivers of Canada training. YDC also had a classroom session for the parents that taught us some of the things that they taught the kids.
1. Control the driver behind you, by gradually slowing down.
2. Cover the horn. In a case where someone is going to do something stupid, like running a stop sign, be ready to give the horn a few short beeps. This works especially well in roundabouts for the guy that's charging in, despite the fact that you have the right of way.
-- DriveSmart 65, NUVI2555LMT, (NUVI350 is Now Retired)
With the walk signal countdown timers I mentioned I left out that the traffic light doesn't turn yellow until the timer hits zero, so some folks are stopping before the light turns yellow because the timer is counting down.
And the wrinkle with the pedestrian count down timer is they dont all behave the same way.
-- Never argue with a pig.
It makes you look foolish and it anoys the hell out of the pig!
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Better to not go through the red lights
I see far too many people that see the Amber with plenty of time to brake, but figure that it's OK to go through on Red as long as it was Amber a microsecond before you crossed the Stop Line.
Why do we need the presence of a Red Light Camera to stop us from doing that?
DriveSmart 65, NUVI2555LMT, (NUVI350 is Now Retired)
I believe most people who
I believe most people who intentionally do this see red lights as an inconvenience, despite their very necessary function. The cameras? Revenue enhancement, nothing more.
"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." --Douglas Adams
Strictly revenue generating
I see far too many people that see the Amber with plenty of time to brake, but figure that it's OK to go through on Red as long as it was Amber a microsecond before you crossed the Stop Line.
Why do we need the presence of a Red Light Camera to stop us from doing that?
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In Philadelphia, PA ....
I see far too many people that see the Amber with plenty of time to brake, but figure that it's OK to go through on Red as long as it was Amber a microsecond before you crossed the Stop Line.
Why do we need the presence of a Red Light Camera to stop us from doing that?
In Philadelphia, PA I see the opposite. A lot of the traffic lights in Philly have walk signals attached to the setup, some people see the countdown to the "Don't Walk" signal as a stop or get a ticket kind of thing, even with plenty of time to have legally and safely make it through the intersection. You really have to be aware, watching for the people you see, or the stop now even though I have tons of time because the walk countdown has started folks, I've seen a few near rear end crashes because of the latter.
. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .
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plenty of time to have legally and safely make it through the intersection.
If I see yellow, I think I should stop if I safely can. Unfortunately too many people think whether they can get through the intersection before it is "red enough" to get them ticketed.
So part of my stopping safely on yellow is looking in my rearview mirror before I've got the brakes engaged very far checking for the chap behind me who thinks the other way about it.
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plenty of time to have legally and safely make it through the intersection.
If I see yellow, I think I should stop if I safely can. Unfortunately too many people think whether they can get through the intersection before it is "red enough" to get them ticketed.
So part of my stopping safely on yellow is looking in my rearview mirror before I've got the brakes engaged very far checking for the chap behind me who thinks the other way about it.
With the walk signal countdown timers I mentioned I left out that the traffic light doesn't turn yellow until the timer hits zero, so some folks are stopping before the light turns yellow because the timer is counting down.
. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .
In Ontario
In Ontario, the Amber triggers as soon as the pedestrian countdown hits Zero. If you are hitting the stop line when it hits "1", you can safely cross through the intersection.
Personally, it's pretty easy to determine that you're not going to get there before it hits "1". If that's the case, I start braking. I never accelerate to beat it and I try to slow gradually, to control the driver behind me.
However, Ontario and likely all provinces, do not stop Idiots from getting a license as long as they don't do an idiotic thing when they're with the drive tester. After that, the licensing office doesn't weed out the idiots. They get to keep their license.
I'm guessing it's much the same in the US.
DriveSmart 65, NUVI2555LMT, (NUVI350 is Now Retired)
Young Drivers Of Canada Training
plenty of time to have legally and safely make it through the intersection.
If I see yellow, I think I should stop if I safely can. Unfortunately too many people think whether they can get through the intersection before it is "red enough" to get them ticketed.
So part of my stopping safely on yellow is looking in my rearview mirror before I've got the brakes engaged very far checking for the chap behind me who thinks the other way about it.
Both of my kids, now 40+ years old, took Young Drivers of Canada training. YDC also had a classroom session for the parents that taught us some of the things that they taught the kids.
1. Control the driver behind you, by gradually slowing down.
2. Cover the horn. In a case where someone is going to do something stupid, like running a stop sign, be ready to give the horn a few short beeps. This works especially well in roundabouts for the guy that's charging in, despite the fact that you have the right of way.
DriveSmart 65, NUVI2555LMT, (NUVI350 is Now Retired)
Ohhhhh....
With the walk signal countdown timers I mentioned I left out that the traffic light doesn't turn yellow until the timer hits zero, so some folks are stopping before the light turns yellow because the timer is counting down.
And the wrinkle with the pedestrian count down timer is they dont all behave the same way.
Never argue with a pig. It makes you look foolish and it anoys the hell out of the pig!
Red is Lucky
I live in Chinatown NYC. The Chinese drivers think red is Lucky. They go on the red and stop on the green. I am not kidding