Hope this is works out.... But I just purchased a NUVI 5000 5.2" GPS for $159 + shipping!!! If anyone is interested here is a link.
You may want to reconsider your purchase. That site doesn't have a very good rating
One thing I did notice, is the price would fluctuate both up and down I hope it works out.
Anticipate a phone call offering "options" for your purchase. When you don't want them, they will tell you that the order is on "back order", and they don't know when it will ship. They ARE NOT a reputable dealer of ANYTHING!
They have a lifetime rating of .19 out of a possible 10 which is about as bad as you can get!
Be sure to cancel the credit card you used for the purchase right away. People tend to have charges pop up even after the deal has been canceled or they get a large increase on their credit card bill from the original order without their approval with these operations.
GadgetGuy is right. This place has an awful reputation. 0.17 out of 10 don't get much worse. Yes you will get an email wanting you to call cusomer service and they will try and get you to buy some overpriced add-ons and if you refuse, your GPS will be put on backorder and never to be seen.
I was just thinking how everyone was overreacting until I read the reviews for this seller. Wow!
You need to call your credit card company asap. The negative reviews and consistent poor experiences is overwhelming.
I just did a sort of the lifetime reviews for the company.
There are 357 VERY disatisfied and 7 very satisfied of the total 364 reviews. I am going to go out on a limb and suggest they planted the 7 good reviews.
I think that sums it up.
i hope it works out for ya.....Keep us posted on what happened.
I have a question. I notice you have been a member for four weeks and your profile shows you own a 5000. And interestingly enough, this is the only thread that you have posted in according to your "track" icon.
Are you related to the company you are touting?
Just an honest question.
no... thats the unit I planned on buying. Had not purchased it at the time I joined here.
Now I wished I had read the reviews first...
Did you call your card company yet? I assume the store is closed for the day (or will say they are) by now.
Just curious.... what does me posting a link trying to help anybody who might want a GPS at a good price have to do with working for that company? Don't you think I would have started sooner than 4 weeks if that were the case? My first post and this is what I get.... Thanks
There are a lot of spam posts in all forums like this and the mode of operation is typically the first post is a spam post with a "great deal" and link. Like I said it was just an honest question that you answered honestly. We have all seen those posts.
Now the issue is for us to help you out as I and others did even before I asked the question of you. I definitely gave you the benefit of the doubt.
They will have you call to confirm the order and at that point they will try to oversell the product with options- I know with cameras they tell you that the price does not include batteries and they sell batteries at outrageous prices. If you do not bite they mark the item as back ordered and you will not get it. I am not sure how they will oversell a gps that only really comes with a charging cable but I am sure they will trick you somehow.
I hadn't given your post a second thought, other than to hope you came out of it o.k. and maybe you would be one person that could give a very satisfied rating, but after reading the ratings, I bet you won't fall into that catagory.... There was another post here about a site that had a similar rating, I wonder if they changed their name?
Well, I haven't recieved a call or e mail yet and it says they are closed on Sat
When I saw this site before, I looked them up on BBB.com.
Not a good company. I thought they sold used stuff but it's more than that. You can have your card refuse a charge, refuse the package on arrival...you have a few options. Good luck, I hope you find one you like.
At least, this demonstrates we are very watchful on vendors rating.
I had been seeing similar links to vendors when I used search engine for purchasing my Nuvi. There are three sites popped up which drove me to check their "review" and "rating". ....
When it's too good to be true, it usually is!
Better cancel that credit card now before it's too late.
Unfortunately people think the "usually" part of that truism does not apply to them. They have somehow found the exception.
I was thinking the same thing.
This company actually has a few web sites out there. They are located in Brooklyn, N.Y.
I originally ordered the 760, it took about three business days before they called me. In the meantime I did some checking on this company and found numerous complaints filed by customers. One customer actually got what he ordered after he contacted the DOJ-Attorney Generals office.
Aside from 86Streetphoto I believe they also run the following sites, Broadwayphoto, Techondigital, Prestigecamera and Cameraaddict.
There may be others.
I immediately cancelled my American Express card and I do not answer calls from this company. Caller ID is a wonderful tool.
Here are just a few of the sites run by Broadway Photo.
Also avoid Red Tag Savings (redtg.com).
The Metropolitan NY BBB is an excellent refernce. Or for that matter, any BBB located in the area of a dealer/reseller should be checked before buying online.
And the list goes on. Remember, caveat emptor (BUYER BEWARE!). Like it was previously mentioned, "If it's too good to be true, it probably is!"
They close from sundown on Friday and on Saturday to observe the Jewish Sabbath. I guess when you pull all the crooked stuff these guys pull under all their assorted Company names you need to do something to try to make you feel better about yourself.
As soon as one of the Company names gets to notorius they just start another new one. All of them are owned or operated by Albert Houllou and Marvin Schwartz.
Some more information about these guys in addition to the info on Resellerratings.com :
So what did you find out today regarding your order?
My 2 cents.
I had a buddy order a digital projetor at a great price, only to have them call and ask if he wanted a bulb with the order! The bulb is more than the projector itself. He declined and continued to recieve calls for weeks afterward. At least he hadn't given his CC info out.
you're not gonna get your order at that price
It's difficult to believe what a great family there is on this site. I am positively overwhelmed at the responses and the really helpful advice that was posted on this subject. I don't think I would ever buy anything over $20 online again without checking in here. You people are the finest.
...it probably is.
Your statement implies that all people who close their businesses on Saturday are disreputable.
There are a few reasons a business might "legitimately" close on the Sabbath. Some Christian denominations and most Jewish movements observe the Sabbath on the Sabbath sometimes or otherwise referred to as Saturday. I'm not meaning to impugn those who's Sabbath reckoning is different. If you choose to close on Sunday or Friday, I promise I won't assume you're a thief. Instead, I'm asking those here not to besmirch those who feel they have a really good reason to be closed.
Then again, if you're a crook being closed on the Sabbath, the day before Sabbath, or the day after Sabbath probably shouldn't make a difference.
I hope you are able to disentangle yourself from these unsavory folks and find a "good" deal elsewhere.
Try tigerdirect. I got a great deal on my TomTom (Refurb). Still sware it's NEW. Works like a dream. No issues whatsoever. You may not find a Nuvi 5000 refurbished, but it wouldn't hurt to look.
Like Tiger Direct, Newegg, or even Best Buy and Circuit City refurbished models!
If it's too good to be true, it is!
With all due respect, What are you talking about?. All he said was, and I quote: "Well, I haven't received a call or e mail yet and it says they are closed on Sat"
"Your statement implies that all people who close their businesses on Saturday are disreputable."
How does the statement listed above imply anything other than they are closed on Saturday and he has not been contacted via a call or email?.
I have yet to read any forum message here at POI Factory on "ANY" forum where anyone has implied, hinted or outright stated that any company that closes on any day of the week (including Saturday) are disreputable.
I'm not real sure how my statement on their hours of operation has anything to do with them being disreputable. However, I did receive an email today stating that it was back ordered after I didn't answer their phone call. This is the first thread I have posted on this site and this is the second time I have been accused of something. The first time it was assumed I was a spammer. I think I'll just stop posting.
Thanks Mike....I thought it was just me.
Thanks for the Theology lesson. Am I on the wrong site? I thought this was about GPS. My bad.
Darin, if it were me in your situation, I would assume at this point that you are NOT going to get the GPS from these shysters at the price you ordered it. You are most likely not going to hear from them again. Their email is designed to bait you into calling them, because that's how they make money. I would not call. You can either ignore them or you can email them back and tell them that they are not authorized by you to back order the GPS, that you are ordering it from another dealer with the unit in stock, and that your order with them is hereby canceled and that you will refuse any shipment from them and dispute any charges from them with your credit card company. Assuming you don't hear from them within a week, and you most likely will not other than possibly getting an email telling you to call them, which you can ignore, I would feel free to order elsewhere. They will most likely ignore your order of the GPS. Believe me and everybody else here: they never intended to ship it to you at the price you saw.
Should you cancel the credit card number you gave them? For me, it would depend how inconvenient that would be. Can you wait a week or two for a new credit card? Would you have to notify other merchants of the new number, who were billing you automatically? Canceling would stop this dealer from later processing the order, for example, a year down the road when the GPS you ordered was being blown out at clearance prices and was worth even less than the "bargain" price. Since it would be inconvenient for me to cancel, I personally would wait and see and monitor the account online each week to see if they start charging you for anything, and if they did, I would write the credit card company to dispute the charges (phoning doesn't preserve your rights when disputing credit card charges) and also then immediately call the credit card company to cancel the card and ask for a new number. Save copies of all emails to and from the dealer including the headers within your email software.
You may wonder how it is possible that such an outfit, with known crooks, could stay in business. These guys started in the photography business decades ago, and have been shafting people with super-aggressive upsale and bait-and-switch tactics since then, long before anybody ordered stuff on the web. They keep changing their dealer names. There are other crooks operating most commonly out of the NYC area who also started in photography mail order and who branched into electronics and have run similar scams for years. I assume they're wired (bribing officials), but that's only because that would be the easiest way to continue defrauding people for years without getting shut down and jailed. You want to steer well clear of these dishonest guys no matter how tempting the prices. Do not order camera/electronic gear especially if the price is significantly lower than you find at honest NYC photo/electronics dealers such as www.bhphotovideo.com without seeing overwhelmingly positive reviews for the dealer at places like www.resellerratings.com.
And speaking neutrally here, with lots of experience on website forums generally: you're not getting attacked in this thread. It takes a little bit of a thick skin to post in forums. Try not to take minor challenges personally. Just ignore them without responding if they bother you. Otherwise you discourage people from trying to help you.
Good luck. I hope it works out for you. It's better to get a recently-discontinued model from a reputable dealer at a reduced price if that's what you can afford than to try and find a super good deal online on a new electronics item from shady dealers or eBay sellers. There's just a lot of fraud out there, so be careful.
rjrsw was the only person who mentioned the Sabbath prior to you...
Just..... NO No No Just kidding. (me kid??)And I hope you will continue to post, at least until the dust settles on this issue... Did you cancel your CC? I don't know if that is really necessary, just keep an eye out for charges that you didn't make...
...be sure you used a CREDIT card, not a DEBIT or gift card that has a credit card number and is labeled VISA or Mastercard. If you used a Visa or Mastercard debit card or gift card, without question, no matter how inconvenient, I would cancel it immediately. Debit and gift cardholders do NOT have the same rights to dispute charges that credit card holders have, and you could well lose any money these guys charge to your account.
Thanks, I appreciate the comments. I do monitor my accounts pretty often. I should have done my homework before I ordered. I don't know if you've backed up this thread and read the entire thing, but some of the stuff in it is pretty ridiculous. My original post was about finding what I thought was a good deal and sharing it. And it went downhill from there. If the replies I had received were like yours none of the rest of this crap would have been posted. I have several interests an post on a few other forums around the web and have never encountered this childish behavior. But again, sincerely thank you.
Darin, if you stick it out here I think you'll find this thread is an anomaly, most threads here are very informative and without personal attacks. I've been on lots of forums, and I find this one to be among the very best in regards to the behavior of the members. BTW, I was really scratching my head on the whole "Sabbath" thing too - made no sense at all.
I hope you can cancel your CC before it's abused! I hope that everything works out for you! It sucks when people get screwed by crooks! Good luck...
I came very close to purchasing from the same vendor untile I found and read the comments and reviews of the company. GOOD LUCK.
Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm not going anywhere, It was just frustrating. I canceled my order with that company. Now on the hunt for a NUVI 5000.
If it's a credit card, do email the company (with a delivery confirmation receipt)refusing the back order and canceling the transaction. Then, send a copy to your credit card company. Tell them not to honor a transaction from that company. If the company charges you anything at all, you can go back to the credit card company and point out what you wrote to them. That will just make it easier for you. In any case, if there is an improper charge on your card, the credit card company must act on your behalf to resolve it if you contact them within 60 days from the time of the bill date. That's the law. You'll find it printed on the back of your credit card statement. As previously stated: Debit cards don't have those protections.
Just keep looking for good deal. You are good in finding low price. Most people here, as you can see, are very helpful and watchful.
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