Just got "service" under battery health iOS

 

My phone is the iPhone Xs 64. Remember I switched to Apple in 11/18, because I got it for $249 brand new.

I have to say as far as the device itself, seems to have had zero issues. It's been dropped 3X severely enough to crack the screen protector.

My battery was 82% for a long time, but now 77% and it has "service" under settings.

Any opinion on whether it's even worth it, I hear it's $69, and wonder how long I can go with the original battery? I wonder if they crack it open, does it compromise the device at all?

My wife has that feature turned on for optimized battery charging. Hers is the same age and at 90%!

My budget is $499 for a phone, so I don't think replacement is an option. At the same time, I need the phone for on-call at work, 24/7 every month.

Highly recommend ubreakifix

Probably worth getting that battery replaced. In my experience once it begins to slide, the slope gets steep. There also are reports of Apple phones having batteries that swell when the capacity starts to drop off due to the heat generated from charging.

I have had ubreakifix replace the battery on several Android tablets and a few phones. Having all the tools, it is very often a quick fix; pickup in a few hours or you can even schedule them to come to your home or office. See https://www.ubreakifix.com/ to see if one exists near you. I happen to use the one in Exton PA.

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John from PA

Expect increasingly shorter

Expect increasingly shorter battery life going forward. You can keep a portable battery with you or replace the battery. If you are handy with small tools and can get a new battery, you can replace yourself (soldering required).

Check this resource for battery & DIY instructions

telecomdigest2 wrote:

If you are handy with small tools and can get a new battery, you can replace yourself (soldering required).

Should you want to attempt the battery replacement as "telecomdigest2" suggests, see https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+XS+Battery+Replacement/1....

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John from PA

Get a Battery

I had an X, it's a great phone. Get a battery and you'll get many more years from it. Make sure you use optimize charging to get the most life out of the battery.

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Battery replacement

I would also recommend doing the battery replacement soon. If I recall correctly, lithium ion batteries are usually good for about four years at most, give or take a year, so you're in the window. And interesting point about DW's better battery performance by using that optimized battery charging setting. So now you know to use that. And so do I.

If you look on this page: https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/service/battery-powe...

you'll see that the $69 price is correct if Apple replaces it. If you live within driving distance of an Apple store, make an appointment, and then you'll only be without your on-call necessity for a few hours. If you don't live nearby a store, they typically turn it around in about a week. They are good about resealing the phone so it's still waterproof etc.

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The batteries will swell as they get older

I had two iphone5s’s and as the batteries got older they both started swelling. My wife’s phone battery actually swelled up to 1/3rd it’s original size. A friend of mine got batteries for both of them for $15.00 and replaced both batteries in about 45 minutes. I believe that the Apple store will change a battery for $70.00 (but I could be wrong on that). That was over two years ago and they were both holding charges all day. However, I replaced mine about 6 months ago because I was running low on memory and we just replaced hers last month because of the 3G issue.

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the

strange thing, is my wife and I got the iPhone Xs at the same time.

She has optimization on, and her's is 95%??!!

What is "lost" with optimization? Isn't it that the phone won't be fully charged past 80%, prolonging its life?

I use my phone for 24/7 on call, so I tended to keep it charging during the pandemic. But now that we're back in the office, I don't charge it all day.....maybe I brought it upon myself by not turning on optimization, and feeling this need to always charge it...first world problems, eh? Thanks guys!

You don't lose much

John, as far as your questions "She has optimization on, and her's is 95%??!! What is "lost" with optimization? Isn't it that the phone won't be fully charged past 80%, prolonging its life?"

I think the optimization setting on the newer Apple phones is 90%. Basically it protects the battery when the device is sitting on the charger for extended periods, like overnight. For many years devices were charged to 100% so that the capacity ratings in terms of time (hours) looked good to the marketing geniuses and hence the buying public. But in the last few years it has been decided that battery longevity, as measured in years is much better if the charge is only taken to about the 90% level. This is especially good if you use a 3rd party charger capable of high output, as opposed to the Apple charger.

On my Samsung, the difference is about an hour out of 10 to 12, i. e., 10 becomes 9 and the 12 about 10.5 to 11 hours.

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John from PA

use a low current charger

I know extremely little about battery chemistry but I do have a very modest grasp of physics, at least thru the 19th century. I am also very prejudiced: I disrespect sales people. I recognize that this is a generalization and try to be open to recognizing a failure of my generalization. My rational self, based on experience, asks me why I even try.

Salespeeps want to get us to buy whatever makes them money, and sometimes it can make some sense to us. For example high speed battery charging. Sometimes it is worthwhile to us. How often though does it matter if it takes 20 minutes or 2 hours?

Why does this matter? Fast charging gets batteries hotter than slow charging. Hot things expand. [I am asserting a fact here that I happen to believe but can’t substantiate] While contracting the powders in the battery which aren’t spheres get somewhat redistributed and less compact. With repeated heat-cool cycles the battery slowly gets larger and larger.

I don’t know how well this is known, but Teslas have a cooling system. They don’t need one for the engine since they have motors instead. The cooling system’s function is to cool the batteries during charging so that high speed charging does the minimum damage to the batteries.

The moral of the story? When there is no hurry use a low current charger. I mostly use an old ½ amp charger. When I’m in a hurry I use my so-called turbo charger which is capable of 1½ amps.

Replacing the battery

Replacing the battery usually takes about an hour. If there’s an Apple Store near you, they will do it while you wait, if you schedule an appointment first. Best Buy might also be able to do in store replacement too.

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minke wrote:

I know extremely little about battery chemistry but I do have a very modest grasp of physics, at least thru the 19th century. I am also very prejudiced: I disrespect sales people. I recognize that this is a generalization and try to be open to recognizing a failure of my generalization. My rational self, based on experience, asks me why I even try.

Salespeeps want to get us to buy whatever makes them money, and sometimes it can make some sense to us. For example high speed battery charging. Sometimes it is worthwhile to us. How often though does it matter if it takes 20 minutes or 2 hours?

Why does this matter? Fast charging gets batteries hotter than slow charging. Hot things expand. [I am asserting a fact here that I happen to believe but can’t substantiate] While contracting the powders in the battery which aren’t spheres get somewhat redistributed and less compact. With repeated heat-cool cycles the battery slowly gets larger and larger.

I don’t know how well this is known, but Teslas have a cooling system. They don’t need one for the engine since they have motors instead. The cooling system’s function is to cool the batteries during charging so that high speed charging does the minimum damage to the batteries.

The moral of the story? When there is no hurry use a low current charger. I mostly use an old ½ amp charger. When I’m in a hurry I use my so-called turbo charger which is capable of 1½ amps.

illustrate a little of what you mention, I bought a RV aka 12V power supply in 2020, because the price dipped. I got the 55A model because it was $125. The 70A model requires a 20A receptacle which I do have, but it was a lot more, the price hadn't dipped. Now we all know the story, the current prices are insane. What I bought for $125 in Dec. 2020, is now $210. (WFCO 9855)

Anyway I wanted to use it as a power supply for a car, if being coded etc. So as much as I hated to use my car as a test, I did. I bought a RV gauge that shows voltage and amps. It can do the 100A+ measurement because it comes with a shunt.

The WFCO claims that it's 3 stage. 13.2 v, 13.6v, and 14.4.

Maybe one says, are you nuts? You're gonna trust them with your car? Well, highly sensitive and expensive RV 12V appliances would also be at risk, as that's what this is designed for.

https://wfcoelectronics.com/three-stage-charging-is-all-your...

Sure enough, when the car was simply at rest, I measured 0-3 amps, and 13.5-13.6 volts.

I then turned on headlights, fan, and rear defrost, with car off.

Now, I measured about 20 amps, and the voltage went down to 13.2 volts.

The device works as designed.

In other words, what I got was a less expensive version of what you'd probably have hooked up at the dealer both in service, and in the showroom, when people are allowed to go in and out of cars and use the electronics.

I would hope that the phone has some of this intelligence too, because it "is" a very intelligent device....

Worth it to change the

Worth it to change the battery for$69 if everything else works as it will continue to get updates for at least another two, probably up to four yearssince the processor is still reasonably powerful.

Or you may want to explore carrier deals that may get you a new phone for little to not cost if you sign up for a term agreement

Get the battery replaced

I would recommend Batteries Plus Bulbs. They have swapped out a few batteries for me and have always done a good job.

Good luck

iPhone battery replacement

I'm still running an old 6s that's on its third. First was from Apple and the second from Batteries plus Bulbs. Both worked fine. Cheap to extend the life of the device.

Iphone Battery

hoophabit wrote:

I'm still running an old 6s that's on its third. First was from Apple and the second from Batteries plus Bulbs. Both worked fine. Cheap to extend the life of the device.

We still have two Iphone 6splus and have only replaced the batteries once. Still charge up good and run all day

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Plus

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lhochman wrote:
I would recommend Batteries Plus Bulbs. They have swapped out a few batteries for me and have always done a good job.

Plus, believe it or not, Batteries + also swaps car batteries and will install it for you. Added bonus, order the battery online then go to the store for the swap an you can get a discount on the battery.

I got a battery for my Jeep that lasted a little over 5 years before it started to lose some of its power, and that was my fault leaving a dashcam on for a week while I was in the hospital, it ended up draining the battery. Recharged it would only get about 80%.

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