Switching from Android to iPhone

 

I was thinking of switching from Android to iPhone but first, what are the pitfalls of doing that?

On my Android phones, Google apps run gmail, contacts, calendar, and photos and they are synced across tablets, phones, and PCs. Can Google apps run on an iPhone? For navigation, I think Google Maps is superior to the Apple navigation app.

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Things to consider

Search YouTube for switch from android to iphone.

There's a lot to consider.

No problems

I use Gmail, google maps, Waze on my iPhone with no problems and they sync to my iPad and desktop Mac. Works fine for me but it is a personal preference.

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Hell will freeze over before

Hell will freeze over before I get an iDevice. Apple goes out of its way to make third party repairs difficult and/or impossible by limiting parts availability.

Can an iphone be rooted/jail broken these days? Mainstream android (samdung) no, but other androids can (google pixel, oneplus, others).

Pass on apple thank you.

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dobs108 wrote:

On my Android phones, Google apps run gmail, contacts, calendar, and photos and they are synced across tablets, phones, and PCs. Can Google apps run on an iPhone?

Yes. Google apps for iOS:
https://apps.apple.com/us/developer/google-llc/id281956209

Android all the way

I agree with zx1100e1.

yup

zx1100e1 wrote:

Hell will freeze over before I get an iDevice. Apple goes out of its way to make third party repairs difficult and/or impossible by limiting parts availability.

Can an iphone be rooted/jail broken these days? Mainstream android (samdung) no, but other androids can (google pixel, oneplus, others).

Pass on apple thank you.

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Some iPhone newby comments

My house was Apple-free until I bought a big iPad for the specific application of displaying musical scores (with page-turning by a pedal). I was significantly happier with the Apple for that purpose than I had been with the Samsung Android tablet I used for it before.

So when I finally upgraded from emergency-only cell phone service using a flipphone with a $100/year prepaid minimalist plan, I went straight to an iPHone mini. I've got about three months on it now.

In general it has worked pretty well for me. My biggest issue is that my fingers are not small enough for typing to have really low error rate. In other words, I should have chosen the next bigger size, not the mini.

I switch back and forth between Apple navigation and Google maps navigation. I find each has points of advantage over the other for me. While I continue normally to read my Gmail on a Windows PC, my Gmail is available to me on the iPhone.

How you might like it overall is hard to forecast, but you would not be throwing out your option of using Google applications you like.

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thanks to all

Thanks to all posters. You brought up a number of points I was unaware of.

One reason for me to go with an iPhone is that Android phones have grown too big and heavy. 5G is making this worse. There are at least two iPhones that are smaller. I hope Apple will continue to develop smaller and less expensive phones.

Apps and Apple Repair

If you have a lot of money invested in mobile device apps--or if you have a lot of time invested in achieving milestones in games etc.--that can tie you down to your current mobile device operating system, because you may have to start over or re-purchase some apps if you switch between Android and iOS. If you just have a few key ones, you can check the app developer websites and see if they have an FAQ addressing this issue, and if not, contact the developer and ask what happens if you switch. This app issue could stop me from switching, not that I'm looking to.

A couple of people here don't like Apple's opposition to right to repair, and I agree. Their historical stance, with some rooting in security, is anti-consumer. But Apple is reversing course on this, probably seeing the writing on the wall in terms of court cases. In 2022 Apple will be facilitating self- or third-party repair of iPhones 12 and 13 and late-2021 Macs with the M1 chip: https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/17/tech/apple-iphone-right-to-re...

I would expect they will allow it for new release devices from here on out. So why not just allow it immediately for every Apple device? It's not that simple for the older devices. They could say, "Okay, you can do it," but the reality would be that without service manuals and available parts, it wouldn't really happen, and I don't blame them for not being willing to commit a lot of time and money to making this happen for older devices.

I understand the distrust and skepticism, but for many Apple users like me, we don't trust Android = Google, period. They may allow self repair, but the cost in loss of privacy in using Android or Chrome is just too high for us.

You pays your money, and you takes your chances.

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Just Say Yes

Well, I'm an Apple user since forever, many different product lines. iPhone user since the beginning.
There is something to be admired about a well designed system of products. Ease of use is just one of them.

Google apps are available for the iPhone. Waze is probably better than Google Maps. I use Apple Maps, and do not have Google Maps installed on my phone. Waze is owned by Google.

You need to list the features that are important to you, and what you currently use and can not go without on your Android, and then see if that is available on the iPhone. It appears apps are available for both platforms.

Apple is very serious about protecting the privacy of it's customers. Google sees it's customers as raw material where you are nothing more than data to be collected and sold.

Highly recommend you go to an Apple store and spend time with an iPhone, they have many available to try out.

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To much money

I agree with you 100%

@diesel In terms of privacy,

@diesel

In terms of privacy, I believe there is no privacy with either device. The network knows exactly where you go, what sites you visit. The only way to obtain privacy is to not use the device.

So even if the company makes claims of not selling your user data, there are other necessary entities involved to make the device work which is unavoidable.

Eh, not really

zx1100e1 wrote:

@diesel

In terms of privacy, I believe there is no privacy with either device. The network knows exactly where you go, what sites you visit. The only way to obtain privacy is to not use the device.

So even if the company makes claims of not selling your user data, there are other necessary entities involved to make the device work which is unavoidable.

In a word, no, not really.

Apple uses methods such as Private Relay (conceals the IP address) and Hide My Email to protect the users identity and passes the info to and from the "network", protecting the user. Great features. This has many advertisers, merchants and such very upset because they can not see what these people are doing and target these users anymore.

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Bite of the Apple

The first and last bite of the Apple I had was during a company sales contest back in the early 1980s, I won an Apple IIe desktop computer.

That was my first computer and I was unimpressed. A couple of years later I replaced it with an IBM compatible AT&T 6300 PC that was far superior. I sold the Apple IIe to a neighborhood kid that wanted it.

Apple has come a long way since that time but I've always looked elsewhere for my needs.

Google apps on Apple devices

diesel wrote:

Google apps are available for the iPhone.

I wasn't trying to suggest that Google apps are unavailable on iOS devices; what I'm saying is that if you have *purchased* apps (one-time payment, or subscription, not "free" apps like Waze) for your Android devices, in some cases you would have to purchase or start a new subscription with no credit for the old one if you switched to Apple and wanted to continue using the paid app there. Or vice versa. If you want to use the same app on both an Android phone and an iPod, you may need to buy or subscribe twice. Credit for progress in games, health history, whatever you're doing with your phone that has an historical record for you may not be transferable. Make a list of your key apps you don't want to lose access to or credit for and check with each app developer so there are no surprises after switching.

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Did not know this

Lost Anyway wrote:

I wasn't trying to suggest that Google apps are unavailable on iOS devices; what I'm saying is that if you have *purchased* apps (one-time payment, or subscription, not "free" apps like Waze) for your Android devices, in some cases you would have to purchase or start a new subscription with no credit for the old one if you switched to Apple and wanted to continue using them there. Or vice versa. If you want to use an Android phone and an iPod, you may need to buy or pay twice. Credit for game progress may not be transferable. Make a list of your key apps you don't want to lose access to or credit for and check with each app developer so there are no surprises after switching.

This is a good point and I did not know about it. I run several paid apps that could cost more for both Android and iPhone versions. If this holds true for those apps, it would be a deal-killer with double subscriptions into the future.

Edit: For the Evernote app, did a Google search and also searched their online help. There is no info about double billing for ios and Android versions of Evernote. Starting a support ticket is futile, since their tech support is in disarray.

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For Evernote, install the

For Evernote, install the appropriate app and use your login credentials. It should take you right to your data. Should work that way for most apps that are available on both OSes,

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For Evernote, install the

For Evernote, install the appropriate app and use your login credentials. It should take you right to your data. Should work that way for most apps that are available on both OSes,

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sounds reasonable

phranc wrote:

For Evernote, install the appropriate app and use your login credentials. It should take you right to your data. Should work that way for most apps that are available on both OSes,

That sounds reasonable to me, phranc.

dobs108

Switching to apple ...not me

A few years ago my bro wanted to load or unload some pics or music from his iphone using my Windows computer. It insisted we learn their itunes app before we could do that. No thanks i can connect a cable to my Samsung or use blutooth to transfer. I don't own any apple products. A relative said well they are little computers...yup so are androids.

Subscriptions Should be Platform Independent

For those that are worried about paid apps and subscriptions, you should be able to simply login once on the iPhone with the subject apps. Unless of course it is some Android specific product feature, if that even exists. So if an app is available on both Apple iOS and Android, chances are pretty good it will work by simply entering your credentials, your username and password.

The days of trying to exclude Apple are over, and apps learned they have to embrace all.

For perspective, Apple stores are always busy, with tremendous traffic, even when the rest of the mall is empty. Then there is the Microsoft store a few storefronts away that was always empty and finally closed.

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Operator Error

stan393 wrote:

A few years ago my bro wanted to load or unload some pics or music from his iphone using my Windows computer. It insisted we learn their itunes app before we could do that. No thanks i can connect a cable to my Samsung or use blutooth to transfer. I don't own any apple products. A relative said well they are little computers...yup so are androids.

For pictures, there are many easy ways to transfer.

For music, which has protection to prevent stealing, there are indeed controls to prevent that.

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Only drawback is the

Only drawback is the learning curve. Anything new will have a learning curve and that's all on you. I tell people this - if ya want different, for whatever reason, go for it. In this case both work and will meet needs, no problems there, how long it takes to get used to it is the issue.
Fwiw - i wouldn't own any apple device for the simple reason i can't do what i want on it - but what i do isn't what 99.9% of users would do. Enjoy!

Damn straight!

zx1100e1 wrote:

Hell will freeze over before I get an iDevice. Apple goes out of its way to make third party repairs difficult and/or impossible by limiting parts availability.

Can an iphone be rooted/jail broken these days? Mainstream android (samdung) no, but other androids can (google pixel, oneplus, others).

Pass on apple thank you.

Damn straight!

What He Said

pHaZm wrote:

Only drawback is the learning curve. Anything new will have a learning curve and that's all on you. I tell people this - if ya want different, for whatever reason, go for it. In this case both work and will meet needs, no problems there, how long it takes to get used to it is the issue.
Fwiw - i wouldn't own any apple device for the simple reason i can't do what i want on it - but what i do isn't what 99.9% of users would do. Enjoy!

Dobs, if you want to be a normal person, using normal apps in a normal way, learning the subtleties and differences should be the only thing. If you are a person that does not obsess over things that are not the same, you should be just fine.

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In general, most apps will

In general, most apps will work in the same way. The major apps that 90% of the population use will be available on both platforms.

One difference is that the same app seems to use a lot more storage on the iOS (Apple), so you might want to get something with more storage. On the other hand, Android seems to need more RAM. These differences probably have to do how the operating system is designed.

Going the route of apple - you might need different accessories/chargers etc.

I'm an android user but my company supplied (and mandated) an iphone. The whole privacy thing (in my opinion) is a marketing gimmick. Nothing is fully private unless you are a hermit in which this post would be pointless because you wouldn't need a smart phone.

Interesting

The Apple Cult

soberbyker wrote:
zx1100e1 wrote:

Hell will freeze over before I get an iDevice. Apple goes out of its way to make third party repairs difficult and/or impossible by limiting parts availability.

Can an iphone be rooted/jail broken these days? Mainstream android (samdung) no, but other androids can (google pixel, oneplus, others).

Pass on apple thank you.

what he said

Seriously. I don't get the Apple fandom. They're expensive as hell, third-party repair options are poor, planned obsolescence is built-in, and they're not even better than Android alternatives that cost half as much. I've met folks who blindly pay the Apple tax for the latest iPhone and won't even consider anything else. It's a cult, I think.

Subscriptions Should Be Platform Independent

diesel, I agree with you, but many developers DO NOT share their subscriptions. If you bought an app/subscription off Google Play, do not expect to get it for free off the Apple Store.

blah blah blah

poibb wrote:
soberbyker wrote:
zx1100e1 wrote:

Hell will freeze over before I get an iDevice. Apple goes out of its way to make third party repairs difficult and/or impossible by limiting parts availability.

Can an iphone be rooted/jail broken these days? Mainstream android (samdung) no, but other androids can (google pixel, oneplus, others).

Pass on apple thank you.

what he said

Seriously. I don't get the Apple fandom. They're expensive as hell, third-party repair options are poor, planned obsolescence is built-in, and they're not even better than Android alternatives that cost half as much. I've met folks who blindly pay the Apple tax for the latest iPhone and won't even consider anything else. It's a cult, I think.

Apple had some real strengths but they aren't of value to me. My son finds the integration important. He can work in the office on his Mac, on line at the bank on his Iphone, and while waiting at a restaurant (yeah, that's ambiguous but you can figure it out) on his Ipad. Yes,,, the same work completely connected with a common user interface. With the productivity he believes is there he finds the Apple integrated functionality cheaper than Windoze & Android.

I had a soft spot somewhere on my body for Apple at the time of the Apple I & II. After that they went from an open architecture to a closed architecture and I was done with them.

After a few suits Apple is better than Android/Google at planned obsolescence. My Nexus tablet (a while ago!) was obsoleted by an Android update.

After working with big boy computers, not PCs without hardware error checking etc. I find Windoze/Linux minimally acceptable on commodity hardware. Everything is marketing: feature, feature, redundant feature, no error correction, no real security, blah blah blah.

I don't think I've ever spent more than $200 on a phone. I just buy cheapo Moto phones and they meet my minimal requirements. (Yeah,,, I swore off Levono (who is amongst other things Moto) for security reasons but I didn't eat my hat: I bit my wallet.

Same account

mr55 wrote:

diesel, I agree with you, but many developers DO NOT share their subscriptions. If you bought an app/subscription off Google Play, do not expect to get it for free off the Apple Store.

You are correct, you will have to pay for the app, if it’s paid. Pay for the app, also. But your login credentials will still carry you to your account, no matter who you log in through.

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The Area Under the Bell Curve, or Venn Diagrams

poibb wrote:

Seriously. I don't get the Apple fandom. They're expensive as hell, third-party repair options are poor, planned obsolescence is built-in, and they're not even better than Android alternatives that cost half as much. I've met folks who blindly pay the Apple tax for the latest iPhone and won't even consider anything else. It's a cult, I think.

Look, everything tech has a short life, as technology advances, stuff goes obsolete.

Apple vs Android is the modern version of Apple vs the Microsoft PC

I don't get the hate on Apple.

People trash the Apple computers because they have a higher price, but the users of Microsoft PCs constantly complain about innumerable problems getting the machines to work and keeping them running. Look at recent releases of the Windows operating systems... evaded like the plague. Remember when people would camp out for days for the latest Windows release? Well, new releases of the MacOS and all Apple OS still get major buzz. And I can use my Macs, iPads, iPhones, etc. and never have to worry about getting them working... they just do. And they can be automatically updated and maintained if I so choose. It's a beautiful thing.

We have a PC here for work, mandated by the employer, and it is hateful. It is pre-prehistoric compared to the MacOS. Frequently have to have IT do some sort of repair. PCs: Low price to obtain, high price to maintain.

At any sort of social gathering, it's really funny listening to people talking about how proud they are that they figured out workarounds for all the problems they have with their PCs, and the Mac folks have nothing like that to talk about.

The people that insist Android are super are those that insist on hacking/jailbreaking/etc. for what ever reason. They are like 0.0283% of the population.

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No Radardroid or POI Factory Radardroid database

Radardroid or POI Factory Radardroid database is not available at the Apple App Store as far as I can see on Android. I run these apps to get POI Factory safety camera alerts on my Android phone and on Android Auto.

Can an iPhone user please search the App Store for these two apps? If they are not there, this is a deal-killer.

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No

Sorry dobs108, no Radardroid or POI Factory Radardroid database on the Apple App Store for iOS that I can find.

Better off with real-time, crowd sourced apps. The database apps go out of date quite often with the installation of new camera sites, as shown in the reviews about the Radardroid app/database. The database has to be maintained constantly. Is POI Factory really looking for new camera sites and updating the app/database continually?

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thanks diesel, - yes! the updates are done continuously

Thanks diesel for looking that up at the App Store! Bummer!

I use Radardroid only with the POI Factory Radardroid database. This is updated monthly by the Play Store. This is not the database from Radardroid. These are the proximity alerts using the same POIs as in the red light and speed camera files offered on this site and maintained by many of our members.

Are these POIs up-to date? Well I have been a contributor geocoding locations for years in my 2-county area of Long Island NY, and I am not the only one in this area! In addition, I have driven in half the lower 48 states, know how to spot cameras, and all of them that I see have been 100% accurate.

Android to iOS

Android: Customizable. Do things your way.

iOS: Do it their way. Period.

Joke:
A journalist asked Tim Cook why iPhones are so expensive

“Well", said Tim Cook, "that's because the iPhone replaces a whole bunch of devices. A phone, a camera, a watch, a music player, a video player, a PDA, a voice recorder, a GPS navigator, a flashlight, a calculator, a portable gaming console, and many other things. Surely, a high price is worth paying to replace so many devices!"
"Then why are Androids so much cheaper?", asked the journalist.
"Because," said Tim Cook, "an Android replaces just one device. The iPhone."

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I have an iPhone but Android is better

Only pro to iPhone is that it is user friendly. That’s it.
Apple does not let you install some apps. Sometimes midstream, meaning you have the app installed already it takes that app down, example Fortnite.

As far as navigation on an iPhone waxed outperforms all others, and it is owned by google.

Apple has alit of hiccups. Restarts on its own. Dropped Wi-Fi and dropped calls etc.

And before people say o it’s the iPhone you have well I don’t think it is my iPhone 6, iPhone X, iPhone XR, iPhone 11 Pro, iPhone 12 Pro, iPhone 13 pro chances are it could be 1 of them but when I currently own them all and they all have issues then it is an Apple issue.

Android has issues to but it does not limit what you can and can’t download it does not limit what you can and can’t do. Android phones cost less have access to sd cards to increase memory makes them better then Apple.

Again it is personal preference.

iPhone vs Android

The big beef it appears is the allegation that Android is customizable and iPhone is not.

Can someone please make a list of the things that are customizable on an Android that are not on an iPhone, please?

What are all these additional features that an Android has that an iPhone does not?

I would like to see this list, thank you.

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iPhone vs Android

Here is an old joke comparing iPhone to Android
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A journalist asked Tim Cook why iPhones are so expensive

“Well", said Tim Cook, "that's because the iPhone replaces a whole bunch of devices. A phone, a camera, a watch, a music player, a video player, a PDA, a voice recorder, a GPS navigator, a flashlight, a calculator, a portable gaming console, and many other things. Surely, a high price is worth paying to replace so many devices!"

"Then why are Androids so much cheaper?", asked the journalist.
"Because," said Tim Cook, "an Android replaces just one device. The iPhone."

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