What Happened? Windows 10 Is Gone? New Windows 11

 

Microsoft is launching a new Windows version. I thought Windows 10 would be permanent, like a subscription service, with any future updates needed. What happened?

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/3/22466394/microsoft-windows...

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almost the same

soberbyker wrote:

Just updated a week or so ago, here is what I have

Edition Windows 10 Home
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎6/‎27/‎2020
OS build 19043.1052
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.2020.0

Mine is essentially the same as yours except for being at a slightly higher level:

Edition Windows 10 Home
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎6/‎14/‎2020
OS build 19043.1081
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3530.0

Phil

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Update

soberbyker wrote:
charlesd45 wrote:

Not sure which one you may have. Many quality updates for 20h2. This is the last one out https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/may-11-2021-kb5003.... Here also is the link to the Update Microsoft catalog. https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB500...

Looks like you are a little behind on the quality updates. The latest is 21h1. I received it on 6-20-21. See https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb4023057-update-f... The latest Feature update to Windows 10, version 21H1 was received on 5-27-21. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/whats-new-windows-10-version-21h1

Just updated a week or so ago, here is what I have

Edition Windows 10 Home
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎6/‎27/‎2020
OS build 19043.1052
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.2020.0

I have the following.

Edition Windows 10 Home
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎6/‎16/‎2020
OS build 19043.1081
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3530.0

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.

Checked my computer on Sunday…

…and it stated that it was eligible for Win11. We’ll see! I started having issues a couple of weeks ago after some type of update. Computer was slower than molasses in January and took forever to load anything. I went back to June 14th and did a Restore at that point. I would have liked an earlier restore point but that was the earliest offered. Computer is working better now, but there was something in that update that it did not like.

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ywa

I have a laptop that is "good" for W11, but I will NOT be upgrading past W10. It too has seemed to run slower since the beginning of the year. I suppose the hardware is being bogged down by all the W10 tasks.

I would suspect that W11 will be gathering even more ihformation to be sent to MS for whatever purpose they deem profitable.

Nothing is really free....

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Microsoft 11`requirements

Microsoft 11`looks great but neither my Surface nor my laptop are able to use it. Neither are that old. I can't believe that Microsoft is making it so difficult to use. Does it expect people to go out and buy new hardware.

Why, yes! Yes the do. That's

Why, yes! Yes the do. That's another license paid for, if you do.

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That was the pc ....

plunder wrote:
soberbyker wrote:

Just updated a week or so ago, here is what I have

Edition Windows 10 Home
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎6/‎27/‎2020
OS build 19043.1052
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.2020.0

Mine is essentially the same as yours except for being at a slightly higher level:

Edition Windows 10 Home
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎6/‎14/‎2020
OS build 19043.1081
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3530.0

Phil

charlesd45 wrote:

I have the following.

Edition Windows 10 Home
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎6/‎16/‎2020
OS build 19043.1081
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3530.0

My Laptop has the same as you, the above was my PC, guess I need to hit Windows update on that.

Edition Windows 10 Home
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎6/‎18/‎2020
OS build 19043.1081
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3530.0

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I have not

20H2 is my last update. I have my updates set to install automatically. I show no updates available except the optional one and it is the only optional one I have ever been offered.

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Above post answered for this post

charlesd45 wrote:
mgarledge wrote:

I have an optional offer of an update (2021-06 cumulative update)for Windows 10 20H2.
Does anyone know what this is and if I should do it? This is the first Optional update offer I have had.
Mary

Not sure which one you may have. Many quality updates for 20h2. This is the last one out https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/may-11-2021-kb5003.... Here also is the link to the Update Microsoft catalog. https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB500...

Looks like you are a little behind on the quality updates. The latest is 21h1. I received it on 6-20-21. See https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb4023057-update-f... The latest Feature update to Windows 10, version 21H1 was received on 5-27-21. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/whats-new-windows-10-version-21h1

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Updates

Go to All Settings, and click on update and security. Then click on check for updates to force a update. After that, under check for updates you will see view optional updates. Click on that and see what is there to update. I keep my laptop updated with both the Feature and Quality updates.

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Thanks

charlesd45 wrote:

Go to All Settings, and click on update and security. Then click on check for updates to force a update. After that, under check for updates you will see view optional updates. Click on that and see what is there to update. I keep my laptop updated with both the Feature and Quality updates.

Will do. Thanks.
Mary

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Updates

mgarledge wrote:
charlesd45 wrote:

Go to All Settings, and click on update and security. Then click on check for updates to force a update. After that, under check for updates you will see view optional updates. Click on that and see what is there to update. I keep my laptop updated with both the Feature and Quality updates.

Will do. Thanks.
Mary[/quote
Curious how many you find under optional?

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.

Will be

charlesd45 wrote:
mgarledge wrote:
charlesd45 wrote:

Go to All Settings, and click on update and security. Then click on check for updates to force a update. After that, under check for updates you will see view optional updates. Click on that and see what is there to update. I keep my laptop updated with both the Feature and Quality updates.

Will do. Thanks.
Mary[/quote
Curious how many you find under optional?

Will be a couple of days till I can get to my computer but will let you know after I do the check for updates.

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Windows 10 21H1

The Windows 10 21H1 update is still not being offered to everyone based on their hardware configuration. It is not available to me on my old ASUS laptop. Additionally, all the 20H2 cumulative updates have failed on this 12 year old laptop since March. The message issued by the update service is "This update is not appropriate for your hardware" or something like that. I have tried all the mitigation steps for this error published by Microsoft and others without success. So I have concluded that there is something in this old hardware that truly is not compatible with the newer updates. This happened once before on this laptop ... I think it was when 20H1 was first available. Went for months without being able to update the 2004 version or upgrade to 20H1 ... then all of a sudden I got a message that 20H1 was available for my hardware. Maybe the same will happen again, but I will not be surprised if this is the end of the road for this old device.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

Old laptop

I fired up my old laptop, which I bought used a few years ago, to get the latest Windows 10 update. It's a Lenovo Thinkpad T510. After the update, I followed the advice on this thread and ran tpm.msc from a command prompt and as I guessed I would see, it showed no TPM. The TPM display showed that I could click "Prepare the TPM," so I gave it a shot. That prompted a request to shut down and restart with a caution that I should watch the restart since I'd be asked for a response. The restart brought me to something like a "Not enabled, do you want to enable?" so I went for it. Overall, good news and bad news. The good is that this old laptop has a TPM module. The bad is that it's version 1.6 and I think Windows 11 requires 2.0 or higher.

It's a "slow as molasses" PC but I keep it around and updated as a backup if the desktop fails or has issues.

I offer this in case your PC appears not to have a TPM and that it's worth checking the "Prepare TPM" and see what comes of it. Good luck.

Updates

I appear to have an even newer version:
Edition Windows 10 Pro
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎7/‎27/‎2020
OS build 19043.1083
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3530.0
Mark

Updates

baumback wrote:

I appear to have an even newer version:
Edition Windows 10 Pro
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎7/‎27/‎2020
OS build 19043.1083
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3530.0
Mark

Received Quality update today. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/july-6-2021-kb5004... and that put my Home version to the same settings as yours except, installed on 6/‎16/‎2020.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.

Just installed the latest and greatest one today (07/07/2021)

charlesd45 wrote:
baumback wrote:

I appear to have an even newer version:
Edition Windows 10 Pro
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎7/‎27/‎2020
OS build 19043.1083
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3530.0
Mark

Received Quality update today. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/july-6-2021-kb5004... and that put my Home version to the same settings as yours except, installed on 6/‎16/‎2020.

I just installed 2021-07 Cumulative Update (KB5004945) which became available today. This is the latest snapshot of my laptop:

Edition Windows 10 Home
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎6/‎14/‎2020
OS build 19043.1083
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3530.0

Before I installed today's update, the only difference was the old OS build level. The old one was 19043.1081.

Phil

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"No misfortune is so bad that whining about it won't make it worse."

Older MSI laptop running windows 11 now

I have a five year old gaming MSI laptop with a gtx1060 gpu and i7 6700cpu that is running windows 11 right now that failed the health check. I do have 2.0 TMP and secure boot running on the laptop, but it failed the test because the CPU isn't listed as a required CPU. It's too old. The computer runs fine on windows 11 and Microsoft should allow older CPS to run under windows 11. My laptop is not running slow under Windows 11.

Move to an SSD

CraigW wrote:

It's a "slow as molasses" PC but I keep it around and updated as a backup if the desktop fails or has issues.

I offer this in case your PC appears not to have a TPM and that it's worth checking the "Prepare TPM" and see what comes of it. Good luck.

I also have a T510 running Win 10 Pro that is used by the wife. Several years ago I swapped out the HDD to a SATA Samsung 850 EVO and it is surprisingly fast. It probably boots to the desktop in about 60 seconds.

Extremely easy upgrade by the way with the Samsung Magician software that came with the drive.

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John from PA

Windows 11 Update

LMChu wrote:

Just installed the preview I had to enable the TPM before it installed so far no problems. This is on a spare pc not my main the version is 21H2 22000.51

Did a small update made it 53, but my browser (Firefox and Edge) acted up on some sites like video wouldn't open my laymen's thoughts are they were not compatible to windows 11 yet sooooo I reinstalled it back to windows 10 everything working fine.

Just home from Houston

charlesd45 wrote:

Go to All Settings, and click on update and security. Then click on check for updates to force a update. After that, under check for updates you will see view optional updates. Click on that and see what is there to update. I keep my laptop updated with both the Feature and Quality updates.

Just home from Houston.
Turned on computer on and it said a restart is needed to update so I restarted the computer.
I then went to updates and there were none, not even the optional one that was offered. I guess it updated on it's own. I did go to optional updates and I have 3 driver updates for Intel-System from July 18, 1968 and that state if you have a problem these might help (I know of no problems). There are 2 Hp Inc under the driver updates for firmware and software but no date.
I will not install these for now.
My PC is only a couple of years old but it just doesn't like Windows updates. smile

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Updates

If you look in the update settings, you can click on the update history and see everything that has been updated.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.

wow

mgarledge wrote:

~snip~

I did go to optional updates and I have 3 driver updates for Intel-System from July 18, 1968 and that state if you have a problem these might help .....

~snip~

Wow, that's an OLD update ... ;p

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Updates

mgarledge wrote:
charlesd45 wrote:

Go to All Settings, and click on update and security. Then click on check for updates to force a update. After that, under check for updates you will see view optional updates. Click on that and see what is there to update. I keep my laptop updated with both the Feature and Quality updates.

Just home from Houston.
Turned on computer on and it said a restart is needed to update so I restarted the computer.
I then went to updates and there were none, not even the optional one that was offered. I guess it updated on it's own. I did go to optional updates and I have 3 driver updates for Intel-System from July 18, 1968 and that state if you have a problem these might help (I know of no problems). There are 2 Hp Inc under the driver updates for firmware and software but no date.
I will not install these for now.
My PC is only a couple of years old but it just doesn't like Windows updates. smile

You may be in the situation alandb outlines above on his post. "The Windows 10 21H1 update is still not being offered to everyone based on their hardware configuration".

I would still run the troubleshooter to see if problems exist with getting the updates . Go to All Settings, type in troubleshoot. Click on Troubleshoot Other Problems, then click Windows Update and last click on Run The Troubleshooter.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.

10 days to change their minds

Upgrade to Windows 11, and You'll Get 10 Days to Roll Back to Win 10

Microsoft says Windows 10 users who move to Windows 11 will have 10 days to change their minds.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/windows-11-will-give-people-10-da...

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There is registry hack

There is registry hack available to bypass TPM check when installing Windows 11. I think we should be able to bypass this TPM check to install Windows 11 when it becomes available.

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Hack.

rookie8155 wrote:

There is registry hack available to bypass TPM check when installing Windows 11. I think we should be able to bypass this TPM check to install Windows 11 when it becomes available.

I expect that Microsoft will close this loophole before the official release of W11.

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May be they will do

May be they will do something about it. They may re-write their registry? Hack word sounds scary. Let me rephrase my words. It is a Windows registry tweak to bypass TPM check. Again it is technical so not everybody will be able to do it.

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Windows 11 Insider

LMChu wrote:
LMChu wrote:

Just installed the preview I had to enable the TPM before it installed so far no problems. This is on a spare pc not my main the version is 21H2 22000.51

Did a small update made it 53, but my browser (Firefox and Edge) acted up on some sites like video wouldn't open my laymen's thoughts are they were not compatible to windows 11 yet sooooo I reinstalled it back to windows 10 everything working fine.

Downloaded latest build update 22000.100 been using it so far no bugs.

Windows 11 Latest Build Update

LMChu wrote:
LMChu wrote:

Just installed the preview I had to enable the TPM before it installed so far no problems. This is on a spare pc not my main the version is 21H2 22000.51

Did a small update made it 53, but my browser (Firefox and Edge) acted up on some sites like video wouldn't open my laymen's thoughts are they were not compatible to windows 11 yet sooooo I reinstalled it back to windows 10 everything working fine.

Yeah, they don't promise

Yeah, they don't promise over 10 years. They know technology is going to change and don't want to support older platforms forever.

Microsoft says you can’t cheat to install Windows 11

Since then, we found out exactly why even some newer PCs might tell you initially that they can’t run Windows 11 and how to fix the problem. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/sorry-microsoft-sa....

Make sure to click on, How to fix the problem.

Now that you know what to blame for that Windows 11 upgrade error, it’s easy to fix the problem. Just head over to the BIOS section of your PC, and search for TPM under the names above. The setting is usually found in the advanced settings or security settings. Whether it’s Intel PTT or AMD PSP fTPM, turning them on should fix your Windows 11 upgrade problems.

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Charlie. Nuvi 265 WT and Nuvi 2597 LMT. MapFactor Navigator - Offline Maps & GPS.

Microsoft pulls PC Health Check

Microsoft pulls PC Health Check as a Windows 11 check. The utility needs a rework I suppose.

Windows 11

Running windows 10 home edition october 5th official release of 11 and the 2 pc's are ready.
Also thinking about running ubuntu alongside Hmmmmmm.

Correction

charlesd45 wrote:

Since then, we found out exactly why even some newer PCs might tell you initially that they can’t run Windows 11 and how to fix the problem. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/sorry-microsoft-says-you-can-e2-80-99t-cheat-to-install-windows-11-on-unsupported-pcs/ar-AAMAkqP.

This is the proper link for that information.

https://bgr.com/tech/how-to-check-windows-11-tpm-2-0-compati...

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nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK

One Down, One To Go Awaiting Windows 11

On my custom built desktop PC from 2018 with an Asus Prime Z-370-A processor, I checked in Device Manager and there was no “Security Devices” option found. A Google search indicated this option was likely onboard, just not activated.

In any event, I found a recent Asus BIOS update, PRIME-Z370-A-ASUS-3004.CAP, dated 8/26/2021, that included Trusted Platform Module 2.0 that will make my PC compatible for the pending Windows 11 update.

I downloaded the 16 MB BIOS update and installed it using EZ Flash. Now the “Security devices” shows in Device Manager and I’m ready for Windows 11, I hope.

Next in line will be to check my Asus Zenbook UX305FA laptop to see if it requires the same or similar update to make it compatible for Windows 11 update.

No windows 10 update

Two years back my desktop was only 5 years old and I tried to update from Windows seven to 10, it ran a diagnostic and came back telling me my computer was to old and could not be upgraded to Windows ten, it recommended to buy a new computer.I have used the computer for the two years and have finally taken Microsofts advice and bought a new computer
I bought a Mac and so far loving it, sorry Microsoft.

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older devices

Windows 11 is not compatible for some older devices. I tried to download it to my Surface and laptop and was unable to do so.

Windows 11 compatibilility Tool Back Up

One day ago Microsoft updated and re-released its Windows 11 compatibility tool two weeks before the OS launches.

.

I'm already annoyed enough by Winblowz 10. I don't need 11 to really piss me off.

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nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK

Will win11 be able to do

Will win11 be able to do this ?

https://i.imgur.com/KZUSevM.png

That's from my windows 10 box.

Who knows

zx1100e1 wrote:

Will win11 be able to do this ?

https://i.imgur.com/KZUSevM.png

That's from my windows 10 box.

My Linux box can, by just typing 'uptime'. wink

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nüvi 3790T | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable ~ JFK

That's jpsoftware's TC

That's jpsoftware's TC (enhanced command.com). Been using it since......... the dos days it seems. There's still tasks I can get done quicker in console than in the gui.

My pc is put to sleep at night (to save on electricity), wake during the day. The last actual reboot was almost 3 months ago.

My proxmox box has been up longer smile

r2d2@pve1:~$ uptime
21:58:57 up 102 days, 11:13, 1 user, load average: 0.16, 0.24, 0.18

It's back

mcginkleschmidt wrote:

Microsoft pulls PC Health Check as a Windows 11 check. The utility needs a rework I suppose.

The revised Windows PC Healthcheck is back. A link is in this article:

https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/windows-11-compatibility...

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