Oh No, broken? (1450)

 

It has been some time since charging my 1450. Plugged in to do the map update and thought it was going OK. Map didn't register on the Garmin or the computer. Went through the steps and noticed that 1450 screen which was on then turned black. My 1390 will charge but with 2 different power cords the 1450 is dead. Did the receptor for the mini usb cord inside the unit broke off the board? Even tried to power off of the vehicle plug in. Nothing.

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nuvi 1390 LT, nuvi 1450 LMT, Win 10

could be a problem with the

could be a problem with the USB socket. That is quite common.
With a std USB cable it will charge but go into storage mode.
With the car cable it will charge and turn on normally.
Obviously, with broken solders on the USB socket, it won't do anything.

I updated my 1490 a few weeks ago and it also did a f/w update. When it was done it would start to turn on, get to the copywrite message, then go off and repeat the cycle indefinitely on battery or garmin cable. It did about the same thing on USB cable quiting just after it started to go into storage mode.

Maybe you should call Garmin and explain that it died after the update. I'm thinking that may have been a problem update

charge the battery

Before thinking the worst, charge the battery even if the GPS is unresponsive. A wall charger is best. Charge it for 5 hours. A computer USB port with the Garmin cable is second-best and charges more slowly. Make sure the computer doesn't go to sleep because the USB port will turn off.

After the charge, update the map again.

Do all this before making any decisions on what to do.

dobs108 smile

No charge

Had the 1450 plugged into a wall outlet for 2 of the NFL games. Does not show any signs of life. Might use the 2nd usb cord to check the first. I know how it will go as both cords power up my other Garmin.
I don't like this.

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nuvi 1390 LT, nuvi 1450 LMT, Win 10

thanks

Thanks for reporting back. The crucial test is whether the GPS can be updated. There is a chance the low battery trashed the update.

dobs108 smile

in another thread

In another thread, naviG123 said:

...Failed Firmware On Garmin 1450
With the nuvi powered off
1. Press and hold the upper left hand corner of the touchscreen with your finger
2. Continue to hold the touchscreen while pressing and releasing the power button on the device
3. The Garmin Logo should display
4. Continue to hold the touchscreen while connecting the device to your computer
5. After 30 seconds the screen should flash white, on this moment the computer install drivers if who don't
6. Release the touchscreen
7. A green progress bar should display on the device
8. After the progress bar completes (45-60 seconds) the device should go into Mass Storage mode with the picture of a computer tower on the display of the device
9. Run Garmin Webupdater
10. Update firmware
11. Eject USB driver
12. Reboot GPS unit.

Tried

dobs108 wrote:

In another thread, naviG123 said:

...Failed Firmware On Garmin 1450
With the nuvi powered off
1. Press and hold the upper left hand corner of the touchscreen with your finger
2. Continue to hold the touchscreen while pressing and releasing the power button on the device
3. The Garmin Logo should display
4. Continue to hold the touchscreen while connecting the device to your computer
5. After 30 seconds the screen should flash white, on this moment the computer install drivers if who don't
6. Release the touchscreen
7. A green progress bar should display on the device
8. After the progress bar completes (45-60 seconds) the device should go into Mass Storage mode with the picture of a computer tower on the display of the device
9. Run Garmin Webupdater
10. Update firmware
11. Eject USB driver
12. Reboot GPS unit.

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Dead on #3.
Not sure here but when pressing and releasing the power button on unit, should there be a clicking sound with it being felt? Or silent?

More info; When I first tried to update unit, it had been a long time with several GE updates in between. Express didn't show either of my devices. Had to add them.

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nuvi 1390 LT, nuvi 1450 LMT, Win 10

I believe any clicking is

I believe any clicking is just mechanical noise.
The devices will show whether a device is plugged in or not.
I have had GE lose its memory b4.
If the Connector is loose, pushing it back slightly when it is plugged in might cause it to make contact and light up. If it does, you have the answer.
Getting it apart is the hard part and there should be a video on utube for that. If you have a points tip solder iron the connections are easy to get at. I just looked at my 1490 and it actually seems very secure. Usually the ground breaks off, which is the major anchor, then the pins come loose. But this is very well attached. So, it is more than likely not loose.
I have a new drivesmart 55 & traffic that I am getting ready to list on ebay if you want to make me an offer.

Still no

Tried again this morning. It came on and the green progress bar went across. Down load maps again and it went half way with 48 min remaining. It then went dark. GE shows not connected. Tried several times with same results. Not touching 1490, just goes black.
Will try to open up and check connectors. Strange.
Might contact Garmen.

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nuvi 1390 LT, nuvi 1450 LMT, Win 10

What was source of power?

jbees60 wrote:

Tried again this morning. It came on and the green progress bar went across. Down load maps again and it went half way with 48 min remaining. It then went dark. GE shows not connected. Tried several times with same results. Not touching 1490, just goes black.
Will try to open up and check connectors. Strange.
Might contact Garmen.

Were you running off internal battery, some form of USB charger plugged into a wall, or cable directly to a PC?

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John from PA

Battery.

I am leaning toward thinking that your battery needs to be replaced. When a battery gets low and weak, it is not uncommon that it will gradually drain while powered on even though it is connected to USB power. When powered off and plugged back in, it will charge up enough again to power back on, but again, will continue to drain down on USB power when operating.

If it was my device, I would probably take a chance and spend $20 for a new battery. I know it is a risk because the problem could be in the USB port or charging system, so if the battery doesn't fix it, you have wasted $20 on an old device.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

$11 with the shipping

alandb wrote:

I am leaning toward thinking that your battery needs to be replaced. When a battery gets low and weak, it is not uncommon that it will gradually drain while powered on even though it is connected to USB power. When powered off and plugged back in, it will charge up enough again to power back on, but again, will continue to drain down on USB power when operating.

If it was my device, I would probably take a chance and spend $20 for a new battery. I know it is a risk because the problem could be in the USB port or charging system, so if the battery doesn't fix it, you have wasted $20 on an old device.

$10 to $11 with shipping on eBay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/ED38BD4251U20-Battery-for-Garmin-Nu...

A few “kits” at 14 have some tools included. How to do it can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkfujctopKQ

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John from PA

Power source

John from PA wrote:

Were you running off internal battery, some form of USB charger plugged into a wall, or cable directly to a PC?

Cable direct to computer and later USB to wall charger.
Both left on for at least 6 hours each.

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nuvi 1390 LT, nuvi 1450 LMT, Win 10

Bettery

John from PA wrote:
alandb wrote:

I am leaning toward thinking that your battery needs to be replaced.
If it was my device, I would probably take a chance and spend $20 for a new battery. I know it is a risk because the problem could be in the USB port or charging system, so if the battery doesn't fix it, you have wasted $20 on an old device.

$10 to $11 with shipping on eBay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/ED38BD4251U20-Battery-for-Garmin-Nu...

A few “kits” at 14 have some tools included. How to do it can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkfujctopKQ

Might try new battery.

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nuvi 1390 LT, nuvi 1450 LMT, Win 10

Charging specs

jbees60 wrote:
John from PA wrote:

Were you running off internal battery, some form of USB charger plugged into a wall, or cable directly to a PC?

Cable direct to computer and later USB to wall charger.
Both left on for at least 6 hours each.

Unfortunately the cable direct to computer has the lowest of the deliverable power capabilities. So if you connect that way while attempting to do a map update, it is (as mentioned by others) entirely possible that a weak battery will go below minimum and the PC can't keep the device properly powered.

A device connected to the PC by specification may draw a maximum of 500 mA from a port in USB 2.0 and 900 mA in USB 3.0.

Separate charging devices generally allow for currents up to 1.5 A at 5V. However, the USB port is rated to withstand current up to 5 A so some manufacturers may go out of spec and offer a higher maximum current.

There is also the possibility of a bad or incorrect cable so swap around to verify.

At $10 for a battery (see my previous) I'd just do that, and after replacement leave the device plugged in for 12 to 16 hours to insure a full charge.

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John from PA