Chrome browser and the MS Edge update

 

Microsoft has done it again! They want you to ONLY USE their products!

The other night I wasn't really paying attention and I let MS do an update to Edge. Well, man do they not want you do use Google Chrome. After a reboot I discovered that all my "saved" passwords were gone from Chrome. So I re-entered some and they were there again (just the re-entries, not all). Well, they would just disappear at any time. They might stay there during that session, or not. They would always be gone after a reboot.

So, I set about trying to find how to uninstall Edge, since it was not in the Uninstall list in the Control Panel. Several articles out there on how to do that using various methods. I found that no 3rd party uninstall program could even find Edge to uninstall. Windows Powershell would respond that "Edge" was an "Integral" part of windows and would not remove it. Renaming ".exe" files wasn't allowed by the system installer program either.

I did find an article that said to just rename the directories. Bingo! Simple solution. See:
https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/how-to-remove-microsoft...

Guess what? Almost all my saved password re-appeared after a reboot. Some of the latest were missing (past couple of months). But some that I had forgotten about were there so I don't know how long MS has been messing with Chrome password saves.

There is no way to "Hide" a MS update anymore, only delay, so user beware.

So, before someone starts berating me about saving passwords - they are only sites that DO NOT have credit info or allow me to order anything. Some of them have hard to remember usernames that the site assigned. And I'm "Typing Challenged"!

BTW: "Edge" still works when typed into the search box.

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rename the directories

With regard to renaming the directories, no matter what you do to get rid of Edge, MS will overcome it with a future update.

I have also heard that Edge will mess with the Chrome Extensions. A nightmare.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2020/02/21/google-wa...

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My Norton Chrome

My Norton Chrome extension are not working how they are suppose to for a few weeks. That may be the problem.

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My Chrome is (mostly) okay

I installed Win 10 V.2004 last weekend and Chrome works correctly EXCEPT for FaceBook which is all screwed up. Interestingly, FB works just fine under Edge. I've just opened a problem report with Chrome for the FB problem, so we'll see where that goes. As for passwords, I use LastPass which remains rock solid, as does Ad Blocker Plus.

Phil

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Browsers

just about the time you get comfortable with your browser they update it or replace it or screw with preference's . I had colors passwords I just about knew how to use most functions and they went and upgraded it to a point i have to go thru another learning curve, some times i think microsoft has a bunch of 16 year old programmers running it ! you can run it in light or dark mode i dont like either, my favorites bar doesn't have all my favorites three of them aren't on it any more ! the pull down menu has more options so you have to be carful clicking on things and was designed by some artsy person GRRRR

I haven't tried this but...

I haven't tried this but Microsoft provides this method of exporting your Chrome passwords and then importing them into Edge. The procedure is kind of ass backwards; scroll down to find out how to export from Chrome, then back near the top to find out how to import into Edge.

How to import Chrome passwords in Microsoft Edge along with bookmarks and history.

1- Close the Chrome browser and open Microsoft Edge. Click on the three points in the top menu to display the menu
2- In the expanded menu select the option "Configuration".
3- Click inside the option "Import favorites and other information" in "Import from another browser".
4- Now we only have to choose the browser, in this case, Google Chrome, and click on Import in order to have our data synchronized in Microsoft Edge.
5- If you want to import from a file select the button shown below.

You can follow the steps below, to export from Google Chrome

By default, this function is disabled for security reasons.
To activate it, you will have to paste or type chrome: // flags / # password-import-export in the address bar. In the drop-down menu, you must select Enabled.

After closing and re-opening Chrome, when going to chrome: // settings / passwords you will see the Export and Import passwords buttons appear. In particular, you will get a CSV file compatible with most password and browser managers.

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roboform

plunder wrote:

I installed Win 10 V.2004 last weekend and Chrome works correctly EXCEPT for FaceBook which is all screwed up. Interestingly, FB works just fine under Edge. I've just opened a problem report with Chrome for the FB problem, so we'll see where that goes. As for passwords, I use LastPass which remains rock solid, as does Ad Blocker Plus.

Phil

I've been using a program called RoboForm for years. They have a free version which is what I started out with but the amount of passwords you can store was severely limited, so I went with the paid version, and also am able to use it across all of my devices. Update a password on one device and they all sync the next time you use them. Oh, and it still works after the 2004 update of Windows 10.

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I have been using Opera without a problem

Microsoft tried really, really hard to force me to use Edge when they pushed the latest Windows update onto my computer. I almost had to jump through hoops to stop Edge from taking over as my browser without any consent on my part.

I succeeded in beating on Edge hard enough that it finally gave up, and fortunately it does not seem to have screwed up my password list in Opera, or any other aspect of Opera that I have noticed.

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I'm willing to pay the M$ tax but

I'm willing to pay the M$ tax (albeit grudgingly) but unwilling to live with Windows. I use dual boot with Ubuntu and Win10. I use Windows where I must e.g. Garmin map downloading and Turbotax. The only clumsiness is that I have it set up to boot Ubuntu by default and since Windows likes incessant rebooting as a combination of penance and maintenance I need to be present to reboot to Windows.

I’m aware of the Wine Windows emulator for Linux but have no interest in messing with it. I also know that if you go to the Wine website the first think it says is:
"Wine (originally an acronym for "Wine Is Not an Emulator")... "

Goog;e Chrome...

MS Edge is based on Google Chrome. We got a "Heads Up" it was coming and decided to use the advice given to work with Edge before the official release. We've been using the New Edge for a couple of weeks with no problems.

I say "no problems' because we don't use the browser ability to store pass words. Using "Last Pass" has always been our SOP. Other than being MS Edge instead of Google Chrome, we see little, if any, difference. Even our Chrome Extensions work fine on Edge.

Edge updated - again

plunder wrote:

I installed Win 10 V.2004 last weekend and Chrome works correctly EXCEPT for FaceBook which is all screwed up. Interestingly, FB works just fine under Edge. I've just opened a problem report with Chrome for the FB problem, so we'll see where that goes...

And the beat goes on. I just checked my installed products (via Control Panel) and notices that Edge was just updated TODAY. No permission asked, no notification given, and no record of what was updated. Gotta love 'em ('em being MicroSoft).

Phil

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Potential answer

Win 7 with ESU updates. Numerous methods are available to continue using Win 7 securely
Agree with trigon that Lastpass is a better PW manager and does go cross platform.
Win 10 doesn't offer any advantages so why bother.

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New problem

Wife got a new laptop and it has an Outlook 2010 problem (same version I'm running). Sending a test message from the account setup dialog works fine. She can receive emails, but cannot send an email to anybody from the main window. A "reply" works to most people, but not to me for some reason, even though I have another account on a different mail server. Tried Outlook 2016, but the same problems exist.

On the other hand, my PC's Outlook 2010 works fine sending and receiving. But, it keeps forgetting the sever login passwords. Always after a reboot and unpredictably during the session (sometimes there is no problem after the initial send/receive). And yes I check the "Save password" box every time.

Still have a problem with passwords in Chrome, but wife does not. I installed Last Pass today and we'll see how that does to alleviate that problem. It seem that chrome has 2 different password files for me. Sometimes it starts a 3rd list that's totally empty that stores passwords, but disappears on a reboot. Seems like there may be a registry problem there, but I uninstalled Chrome, cleaned the registry using StopZilla Optimizer, then installed Chrome again. Did not lose saved passwords, but problem persists. Can't find anything about where they are saved to.

I know a lot of people complain about "bugs" in updates, but it is almost impossible for a programmer to cover all the bases. There are just too many variables (additional programs) out there. Besides, "There is no test better than the American public!".

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metricman wrote:

Wife got a new laptop and it has an Outlook 2010 problem (same version I'm running). Sending a test message from the account setup dialog works fine. She can receive emails, but cannot send an email to anybody from the main window. A "reply" works to most people, but not to me for some reason, even though I have another account on a different mail server. Tried Outlook 2016, but the same problems exist.

Outgoing mail problem is normally caused by forgetting to enable authentication in the Outgoing (SMTP) setting.

An alternative to Microsoft

For those with simple needs: E-mail, web browsing, anything that can be done within a browser, a Chromebook can be a viable alternative for those in the market for a new, secure, and low cost machine. For those with deeper pockets and greater needs, a Mac often suffices. For those who are geeks at heart and don't mind a challenge, Linux is an alternative. Each have their pro's and con's

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1 Win 10 unit fixed!

chewbacca wrote:
metricman wrote:

Wife got a new laptop and it has an Outlook 2010 problem (same version I'm running). Sending a test message from the account setup dialog works fine. She can receive emails, but cannot send an email to anybody from the main window. A "reply" works to most people, but not to me for some reason, even though I have another account on a different mail server. Tried Outlook 2016, but the same problems exist.

Outgoing mail problem is normally caused by forgetting to enable authentication in the Outgoing (SMTP) setting.

Sorry, nope, did that.

Update: wife let the 2004 update install and all problems with hers were solved. Including the problems I did not mention - unable to do a "Save As" in Excel, Word, etc. She is now a "happy camper".

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Edge

Surprisingly Microsoft Edge was pushed in an update a day or two after I had updated to version Windows 10 v2004.

Not surprisingly since it was installed my laptop was running sluggish. I chose Chrome to be my default but I think Edge was messing with it in the background somehow. Videos were all of a sudden choppy, my cursor was stuttering, among other things. I went through all of my startup apps and did some other tweaks but it didn't help with my browsing using Chrome. I ended up installing Edge, rebooted the laptop and things are once again running smooth, knock on wood.

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Edge.

soberbyker wrote:

Surprisingly Microsoft Edge was pushed in an update a day or two after I had updated to version Windows 10 v2004.

Not surprisingly since it was installed my laptop was running sluggish. I chose Chrome to be my default but I think Edge was messing with it in the background somehow. Videos were all of a sudden choppy, my cursor was stuttering, among other things. I went through all of my startup apps and did some other tweaks but it didn't help with my browsing using Chrome. I ended up installing Edge, rebooted the laptop and things are once again running smooth, knock on wood.

I have noticed the same. Do you mean you uninstalled or reinstalled Edge?

After upgrading my 11 year old Asus laptop to Win 10, Google Chrome has always been terrible, especially with video. But the original Edge worked pretty good for me. After Microsoft pushed out the Edge update to the Chromium base, it works just as bad as Chrome!

Maybe I should start by uninstalling Chrome and see if Edge works any better. If that doesn't help, I will uninstall Edge and reinstall Chrome.

In the meantime, I have switched to Firefox, and the video works fine with it, but I am not a fan of Firefox.

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UNinstalled

alandb wrote:
soberbyker wrote:

Surprisingly Microsoft Edge was pushed in an update a day or two after I had updated to version Windows 10 v2004.

Not surprisingly since it was installed my laptop was running sluggish. I chose Chrome to be my default but I think Edge was messing with it in the background somehow. Videos were all of a sudden choppy, my cursor was stuttering, among other things. I went through all of my startup apps and did some other tweaks but it didn't help with my browsing using Chrome. I ended up installing Edge, rebooted the laptop and things are once again running smooth, knock on wood.

I have noticed the same. Do you mean you uninstalled or reinstalled Edge?

After upgrading my 11 year old Asus laptop to Win 10, Google Chrome has always been terrible, especially with video. But the original Edge worked pretty good for me. After Microsoft pushed out the Edge update to the Chromium base, it works just as bad as Chrome!

Maybe I should start by uninstalling Chrome and see if Edge works any better. If that doesn't help, I will uninstall Edge and reinstall Chrome.

In the meantime, I have switched to Firefox, and the video works fine with it, but I am not a fan of Firefox.

I got rid of Edge, I have been using Chrome for years with no functionality problems, until Edge was pushed.

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Reinstall Edge

soberbyker wrote:
alandb wrote:
soberbyker wrote:

Surprisingly Microsoft Edge was pushed in an update a day or two after I had updated to version Windows 10 v2004.

Not surprisingly since it was installed my laptop was running sluggish. I chose Chrome to be my default but I think Edge was messing with it in the background somehow. Videos were all of a sudden choppy, my cursor was stuttering, among other things. I went through all of my startup apps and did some other tweaks but it didn't help with my browsing using Chrome. I ended up installing Edge, rebooted the laptop and things are once again running smooth, knock on wood.

I have noticed the same. Do you mean you uninstalled or reinstalled Edge?

After upgrading my 11 year old Asus laptop to Win 10, Google Chrome has always been terrible, especially with video. But the original Edge worked pretty good for me. After Microsoft pushed out the Edge update to the Chromium base, it works just as bad as Chrome!

Maybe I should start by uninstalling Chrome and see if Edge works any better. If that doesn't help, I will uninstall Edge and reinstall Chrome.

In the meantime, I have switched to Firefox, and the video works fine with it, but I am not a fan of Firefox.

I got rid of Edge, I have been using Chrome for years with no functionality problems, until Edge was pushed.
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MS is begging people to (re)install Edge. Google it to find out where to download it from.

Phil

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No thanks

plunder wrote:

MS is begging people to (re)install Edge. Google it to find out where to download it from.

Phil

Quote:

Nevertheless, if Edge shows graphics glitches ... https://www.thewindowsclub.com/reset-microsoft-edge-browser-...

No thanks MS, I'll keep my real 'chromium' browser. What's to keep edge from getting buggy again? I've never had a problem with my Google Chrome browser, I'm used to using it, and it's settings are simple to change if needed.

There are "edge" problems going back years according to the Google search (results) you suggested.

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Bing Points

I only use Edge for about 5 minutes a day to get the extra Bing points that can be redeemed for Amazon gift cards. Yes, Microsoft will actually pay you to use their search engine instead of Google...

Edge

Has anyone used Edge. I currently use Chrome but was wondering if Edge was better. Anyone have any information?

edge is just like Chrome

The new Edge is based on the open-sourced code of Google Chromium which is also used for Google Chrome. Edge and Chrome look the same on the screen. Chrome has many more plugins than Edge but they say Chrome plugins work in Edge.

I am sticking with Chrome. Everything is synced from our two PCs to two Android tablets to two Android phones. It is a total Google system.

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Looking the same isn't the same as being the same

dobs108 wrote:

Edge and Chrome look the same on the screen.

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Looking the same isn't the same as being the same; see https://www.howtogeek.com/659857/what-you-need-to-know-about....

The new Edge has a few features that set it apart from Chrome, like better privacy settings. It also uses less of my computer's resources, which Chrome is notorious for hogging. Some other differences can be found at https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-new-edge-browser-g....

Having said that, I know that Google is addressing the memory hog issue in the future.

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