Win 7 Updates ??

 

Microsoft officially ended support for Win 7 on 1/20/20 but now in April, I'm still getting updates?

Not much on the net about it. Anyone else getting them?

Updates

I am getting updates from Microsoft, but they are for the Microsoft Office programs installed on my Windows 7 machine.

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I got some updates also.

I had to go to my win 7 drive to check a couple things and the only updates I got were for office.

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You may still be getting

You may still be getting MSRT (Malicious Software Removal Tool) update for Windows 7 and Office 2010 (or newer) updates.

WinXP was still getting MSRT updates long after MS stopped supporting it.

With just the O/S

Since the cut-off, I have had 3 updates to the Malicious Software Tool, a couple of Security Monthly Quality Rollups, a Servicing Stack, and M$ is STILL trying to push Silverlight out to me, even though I uninstalled it many months ago, and M$ is dropping support for it, and nobody uses it anyway.

I should have added

That this last Update Tuesday I got nada. (other than aforesaid optional Silverlight)

Win 7 SP1 has a lot of updates

See https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4550965 (scroll down the left hand side of the page. The last seems to be that referenced by the link, KB 4550965.

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John from PA wrote:

See https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4550965 (scroll down the left hand side of the page. The last seems to be that referenced by the link, KB 4550965.

Those updates are available to customers who pay to get ESU (Extended Security Updates). Updates are distributed through Windows Updates. Microsoft will continue to release updates until 2022.

Non paying customers can also get them thru WSUS or by manually downloading, importing into WSUS and approving them for installation to automate distribution to multiple Windows 7 machines.

If you only have 1 Windows 7 PC to worry about, manual download and installation will work too.

Win 7 Updates

I think I read that MS will still provide updates for Win 7 if the update helped patch a security breach potential.

How long that will last.... anyone's guess.

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pratzert wrote:

I think I read that MS will still provide updates for Win 7 if the update helped patch a security breach potential.

How long that will last.... anyone's guess.

They were still patching Windows XP as late as 2019. If the flaw is wormable, a serious flaw that doesn't require user intervention to spread, they will patch it.

Time to upgrade, maybe?

Time to upgrade, maybe?

Yes. There are ways to get Win 10 for free

sunsetrunner wrote:

Time to upgrade, maybe?

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Procedure is in another thread

pwohlrab wrote:
sunsetrunner wrote:

Time to upgrade, maybe?

Yes, getting Windows 10 for free is still available, assuming you have a legal Windows 7 installation. Windows 8 can also be upgraded to Windows 10. The procedure is discussed in the thread at http://www.poi-factory.com/node/50205. Scroll down a bit and you'll find some step by step instructions that I posted on how this is done. Microsoft also provides detailed instructions at https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/enterprise/wi....

Most importantly, once you download the Windows 10 installation file, you do not have to install it. You can keep it for later and then do the installation but what you download is "keyed" to the machine used for the download. So, if you have two Win 7 machines, one with Windows 7 Home and the other with Windows 7 Pro, you will have to download the installation file twice, one copy for each machine. What you download on the Win 7 Home will not install on the Win 7 Pro machine. So somehow identify which is which if you are doing multiple machines. Microsoft recommends an 8GB USB drive for doing it this way. The USB drive will be formatted so get everything of value of it before proceeding.

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Problematic

sunsetrunner wrote:

Time to upgrade, maybe?

4 of my 5 PC's run Win 10 Pro. I keep one Win 7 PC to run software not compatible with Win 10 or too expensive to replace. I'm slowly migrating to Win 10 as it becomes practical to do so.

Definately a learning curve involved.

bdhsfz6 wrote:
sunsetrunner wrote:

Time to upgrade, maybe?

4 of my 5 PC's run Win 10 Pro. I keep one Win 7 PC to run software not compatible with Win 10 or too expensive to replace. I'm slowly migrating to Win 10 as it becomes practical to do so.

I'm getting better at it. I've only had to go back to my win 7 drive for some info I forgot to migrate.

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I just found out last night

I just found out last night that Microsoft now offers Edge browser for Windows 7. I think they started offering it in January 2020. This goes to show that there's still a significant number of Win 7 users out there who can't upgrade or don't want Win 10.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge

google chromium

The new Edge browser is really Google Chromium. May as well download Chrome - it is the same thing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.howtogeek.com/659857/what-y...

dobs108 smile

I don't like Edge browser.

I don't like Edge browser. I'm still using Win 7 at home and Win 10 at the office. Edge browser is not used at all. I'm just saying that I'm surprised Microsoft decides to offer Edge for Win 7 at the last minute before they stop supporting it.

Thank God..

Windows 10 is the real deal. Love the OS!

it will install

John from PA wrote:
pwohlrab wrote:
sunsetrunner wrote:

Time to upgrade, maybe?

Yes, getting Windows 10 for free is still available, assuming you have a legal Windows 7 installation. Windows 8 can also be upgraded to Windows 10. The procedure is discussed in the thread at http://www.poi-factory.com/node/50205. Scroll down a bit and you'll find some step by step instructions that I posted on how this is done. Microsoft also provides detailed instructions at https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/enterprise/wi....

Most importantly, once you download the Windows 10 installation file, you do not have to install it. You can keep it for later and then do the installation but what you download is "keyed" to the machine used for the download. So, if you have two Win 7 machines, one with Windows 7 Home and the other with Windows 7 Pro, you will have to download the installation file twice, one copy for each machine. What you download on the Win 7 Home will not install on the Win 7 Pro machine. So somehow identify which is which if you are doing multiple machines. Microsoft recommends an 8GB USB drive for doing it this way. The USB drive will be formatted so get everything of value of it before proceeding.

I have upgraded many machines. The above is not exactly correct. When you use the Media Creation Tool your choices are either a 32 bit or a 64 bit version. Either version will install Home or Pro. The issue is not that it won't install, it is that it will not activate. I prefer downloading the ISO file. I can then use RUFUS to create a bootable USB drive. It is much faster than MCT and offers more choices.
You can do an upgrade install or a clean install. I prefer the clean install because problems in the W7 registry will be carried over to W10 with an upgrade install. However, a clean install is more labor intensive.

Should you upgrade? The advantages are many. The disadvantages include not being able to run an old program. I have one that won't run on 10. However, once you install and activate W10 if you rollback to W7, that computer is now permanently activated for either W7 or W10 so if you rollback to W7 you are locked in with a W10 activation if MS ever cancels the free upgrade.

Windows 7 Windows 10

In my mind I fought going to Windows 10 from 7 after having used Windows 8 for about 30 seconds, but knew it was inevitable.

After the usual shakeout and short learning curve I believe Windows 10 to be excellent. I liked 7 but life moves on and Windows 10 is fine.

I am not running a business, but if I were, I would want the constant updates for security. My sis in law uses Windows 8 for some unknown reason and refuses to go to Windows 10 and she is running a business. Maybe I can once again try to talk her into Windows 10 sometimes after the social distancing. If you have "must have" software that will not run on 10 then that is a quandry.

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I also fought going to win 7

I had win 10 on a separate drive from a clean install about 1 1/2 years ago. I didn't like it so I put it away. When I found out Turbo tax wouldn't run on win 7 I brought it out again. I had quite a few updates to do and I had a few issues that I worked through. There are still a few idiosyncrasies that it has that I just live with. I still have the win 7 boot drive but have not looked at it in about 6 months. Since it lives on a TB drive I will eventually format it and use it as another backup drive. It will be used for images because I already have 3 separate drives for data.

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Dudlee wrote:

In my mind I fought going to Windows 10 from 7 after having used Windows 8 for about 30 seconds, but knew it was inevitable.

After the usual shakeout and short learning curve I believe Windows 10 to be excellent. I liked 7 but life moves on and Windows 10 is fine.

I am not running a business, but if I were, I would want the constant updates for security. My sis in law uses Windows 8 for some unknown reason and refuses to go to Windows 10 and she is running a business. Maybe I can once again try to talk her into Windows 10 sometimes after the social distancing. If you have "must have" software that will not run on 10 then that is a quandry.

For those programs, you can install a Virtual Machine (VM) and install a old operating system

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Turbo Tax

pwohlrab wrote:

I had win 10 on a separate drive from a clean install about 1 1/2 years ago. I didn't like it so I put it away. When I found out Turbo tax wouldn't run on win 7 I brought it out again. I had quite a few updates to do and I had a few issues that I worked through. There are still a few idiosyncrasies that it has that I just live with. I still have the win 7 boot drive but have not looked at it in about 6 months. Since it lives on a TB drive I will eventually format it and use it as another backup drive. It will be used for images because I already have 3 separate drives for data.

TT ran fine for me this year as long as I ignored the warning and just clicked I'm staying on Win 7.

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pwohlrab wrote:

When I found out Turbo tax wouldn't run on win 7 I brought it out again.

https://www.intuit.com/support/windows-7-end-of-life/

TurboTax for tax year 2019 and QuickBooks 2020 will install on Windows 7 (Service Pack 1 or later) PCs. However, we strongly recommend upgrading your operating system before installing these products.

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chewbacca wrote:
pwohlrab wrote:

When I found out Turbo tax wouldn't run on win 7 I brought it out again.

https://www.intuit.com/support/windows-7-end-of-life/

TurboTax for tax year 2019 and QuickBooks 2020 will install on Windows 7 (Service Pack 1 or later) PCs. However, we strongly recommend upgrading your operating system before installing these products.

Unless Intuit changes it's current plan, 2020 (2019 tax season) is the last year Turbo Tax will run on Win 7.

The main reason was

"As of January 14, 2020, Microsoft will no longer provide security updates or support for PCs running Windows 7. This means that computers running on Windows 7 will be more vulnerable to security risks and viruses. To avoid these risks, Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10."

Now, I, personally wasn't overly concerned, but felt it was a good time to upgrade. I have NEVER had a virus or malware or been hacked. I feared more for my Brother who is computer illiterate. I needed to move him forward and this was a good reason.

bdhsfz6 wrote:
chewbacca wrote:
pwohlrab wrote:

When I found out Turbo tax wouldn't run on win 7 I brought it out again.

https://www.intuit.com/support/windows-7-end-of-life/

TurboTax for tax year 2019 and QuickBooks 2020 will install on Windows 7 (Service Pack 1 or later) PCs. However, we strongly recommend upgrading your operating system before installing these products.

Unless Intuit changes it's current plan, 2020 (2019 tax season) is the last year Turbo Tax will run on Win 7.

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pwohlrab wrote:

"As of January 14, 2020, Microsoft will no longer provide security updates or support for PCs running Windows 7. This means that computers running on Windows 7 will be more vulnerable to security risks and viruses. To avoid these risks, Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10."

Now, I, personally wasn't overly concerned, but felt it was a good time to upgrade. I have NEVER had a virus or malware or been hacked. I feared more for my Brother who is computer illiterate. I needed to move him forward and this was a good reason.

bdhsfz6 wrote:
chewbacca wrote:
pwohlrab wrote:

When I found out Turbo tax wouldn't run on win 7 I brought it out again.

https://www.intuit.com/support/windows-7-end-of-life/

TurboTax for tax year 2019 and QuickBooks 2020 will install on Windows 7 (Service Pack 1 or later) PCs. However, we strongly recommend upgrading your operating system before installing these products.

Unless Intuit changes it's current plan, 2020 (2019 tax season) is the last year Turbo Tax will run on Win 7.

"When I found out Turbo tax wouldn't run on win 7 I brought it out again."

That is an incorrect statement and the reason why I posted a reply with a link to intuit.com

Windows 7 is still getting security patches in April 2020 but you must get them manually.