Reminder of end of Windows 7 support

 

Just did an update to Winows 7 today and was reminded by MS that the end of Windows 7 support will end on January 14, 2020.

Don't really want to update to Windows 10, because I dislike the user interface change. BUT, I do know that you can change how Win 10 looks in the "Personalize" menu. Selecting "Classic" will make the screen look like Win 7. Hopefully all the major bugs have been fixed.

Also, you can download (for free) various start menus. See:
https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/make-windows-10-like-wind...

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Pretty Much Ready

dobs108 wrote:

Gary A, I will be doing what you are doing in two weeks, so I am following what you are doing. Two identical PCs with Windows 7 will be formatted and a clean install of Windows 10 will be done.

dobs108 smile

I've got all the preliminary loading done. I boot Win10 to tweak some settings when I read something worthwhile.

I'm going to wait until after Jan 1, once I've pulled down all my year end financial numbers.

On the day I decide to swap the dual boot to make Win10 the default, I'll only have to convert some financial files and move over my email client data. Oh yeah, and my wife's game's high scores. rolleyes Very important. laugh out loud

I'll probably do it on a weekend. If I find I forgot something, I can always boot Win7 back up.

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Classic shell is now open shell

Here is another good link from PC Magazine:

https://www.pcmag.com/feature/372296/how-to-make-windows-10-...

It says Classic Shell is now called Open Shell.

dobs108 smile

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Updated all of my Windows 7 PCs while MS is offering it for free. Windows 10 is definitely growing on me

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3rd Party Install

dobs108 wrote:

Here is another good link from PC Magazine:

https://www.pcmag.com/feature/372296/how-to-make-windows-10-...

It says Classic Shell is now called Open Shell.

dobs108 smile

I thought perhaps this was added in a new build of Windows 10. Looks like a 3rd party developed it. Still nice to know:

https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/

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Time to upgrade

It is good while it last. Windows 10 seems to be better running on an older computer with Windows 7 except couple chipsets driver that I can't find the update.

chipset drivers

For my Intel system boards for two PCs, running Windows 7 x64 for the last 8 years, I have used a utility on the Intel website and also ASUS, the board manufacturer, to install the chipset drivers several times. This failed every time.

The conclusion is that the operating system is providing the chipset driver and is preventing me from installing the Intel version. I believe that with Windows 10, the same thing will happen.

dobs108 smile

Yeah, I am used to Windows

Yeah, I am used to Windows 10 now. Never had a problem as far as bugs, but I do run 1 build behind. I will update to the current build once the next build comes out. The most important thing in my opinion is to change the privacy settings. The default settings send everything to Microsoft and I do mean everything.

My hospital still uses

My hospital still uses windows 7...

Moving from Windows 7 to Linux

Just in case anyone is interested.

Your Full Guide on Migrating from Windows 7 to Linux

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Win 10 Antivirus

How many Win 10 converts rely on the built in Windows Defender antivirus program? Do you run auxiliary virus protection and if so what do you use?

Linux: Interesting, might be

Linux:
Interesting, might be ok for those that like to fiddle with the OS to make things work. Not for me anymore.

I've got all my machines upgraded to from W7 to W10 now, so I don't want to go through another learning curve.

I will mention that I tried Linux about 4 years ago on a desktop dual boot configuration with W7 on one boot and Linux on the other. Making all the MS programs, Quicken, and other accounting programs function flawlessly with Wine was not successful.

I also tried, at that time, Opensource, Libre, etc, MS office equivlants which work fine IF you do not use a lot of hyperlink formulas. I found that aspect of opensource excel wanting.

But, why bother? I have now upgraded 8 W7 machines to W10 Home, (including 2 W10 Pro) with only minor problems, that were fixable once W10 was up and running. The ads, data gathering, etc, can be cut to a minimum. Heck, there is more data gathering going on with your cell phone that nobody seems to care about.

I am not convinced that most people will go to Linux, they can barely understand Windows or MacOS.

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BitDefender

bdhsfz6 wrote:

How many Win 10 converts rely on the built in Windows Defender antivirus program? Do you run auxiliary virus protection and if so what do you use?

I have always used third party antivirus add-ons, admittedly as much out of habit as for any technical reason. After switching to Windows 10, I used the free version of Avast for a while. It provided adequate protection in that I never got infected while using it, but it did corrupt my Windows installation a couple of times when it updated, causing some grief in getting everything back to normal. So after doing some research in online reviews, I switched all my Win 10 machines over to Bit Defender about 18 months ago. It has worked well for me. When I renewed my license after the first year, I added the VPN agent with unlimited data because I needed to be able to download some Bosch software that was blocked for US customers, so I needed to connect with a European IP number. I don't use the VPN agent that often, but it is nice to know you have an additional layer of tracking prevention when you think you might need it for certain sites.

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No fiddling required... usually

KenSny wrote:

Linux:
Interesting, might be ok for those that like to fiddle with the OS to make things work. Not for me anymore.

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I am not convinced that most people will go to Linux, they can barely understand Windows or MacOS.

Generally with Ubuntu the installer does most everything for you, including setting up a dual-boot configuration. Occasionally there might be hardware driver issues but they seem to work very hard to avoid those sorts of problems. This is in definite contrast to MS trying to make it nearly impossible for users to get drivers for newer hardware for their older versions of Windows, forcing an upgrade to a newer OS version.

If you're resizing any existing partitions to make more space for the Ubuntu volume, then that's one area that might make folks nervous (and it should). Otherwise, the installation is relatively easy and as stated before, the UI is familiar and intuitive enough that my 91 year-old mother has had no problems making the adjustment, you don't need to be a Linux geek to use modern GUI-centric Linux distributions like Ubuntu.

WINE is hit or miss, but the PlayOnLinux frontend makes it easier to use and adds more out-of-the-box software support from WINE. As for Quicken, GnuCash does everything Quicken does and then some. And then some more...

Interesting on the hyperlink spreadsheet formulas though, I don't use them so I wasn't aware of that potential issue with the Open/LibreOffice spreadsheet variants.

Happy New Year everyone!

- Phil

Did your Windows 7 Computer Melt Down Today?

Today is the day. Armageddon is upon us.
Switch to Linux. 😀

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LOL

Steve R. wrote:

Today is the day. Armageddon is upon us.
Switch to Linux. 😀

I have some auto mfg software on Win7 and also some Panasonic Toughbooks on Win7 so no intention of switching. These machines don't even need to go online for my needs. But I did notice that there were no updates since late Dec.

one PC done with Windows 10 install

Just finished the clean install of Windows 10 on one of my PCs. It went quicker than anticipated. Even installing the apps went quickly.

It helped that the data is not on the C: solid state drive but on a separate spinning hard drive. This was removed to prevent Windows 10 from formatting that drive, too!

dobs108 smile

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johnnatash4 wrote:
Steve R. wrote:

Today is the day. Armageddon is upon us.
Switch to Linux. 😀

I have some auto mfg software on Win7 and also some Panasonic Toughbooks on Win7 so no intention of switching. These machines don't even need to go online for my needs. But I did notice that there were no updates since late Dec.

There are 2 or 3 new Windows 7 updates released on the last day of support, January 14.

Free Windows 10 Upgrade

I have a PC computer that I built from components in 2008 and at the time I used an OEM SYSTEM Builder Pack Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit as the operating system. I’ve kept this system as a backup system only since in 2018 I built a new PC using Windows 10 Pro 64bit OS.

You can buy and download Windows 10 via Microsoft's website for $139. While Microsoft technically ended its free Windows 10 upgrade program in July 2016, a free update is still available for Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 users still in 2020. Since my Windows 7 OEM OS was still tied to the original motherboard from 2008, I qualified for the free Windows 10 upgrade.

A download of MediaCreationTool1909.exe from Microsoft was used to facilitate the free upgrade change from Windows 7 to Windows 10. My Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit system was upgraded to Windows 10 Pro 64 bit. It took much of yesterday to facilitate this upgrade process but the price was right. grin

That is what I did

Did a clean install. When it was time to enter the Windows 10 serial number I entered the serial number from my OEM full version of Windows 7 and it worked. The price was right!

Alternate to what dobs108 did

dobs108 wrote:

Did a clean install. When it was time to enter the Windows 10 serial number I entered the serial number from my OEM full version of Windows 7 and it worked. The price was right!

“Dobs108” was fortunate to have the serial number, often called the product key. Many may not know what that is, and it is always a good idea to have it, and the same for Office products, prior to doing a clean install which wipes everything out.

I highly recommend a free utility called Belarc Advisor prior to doing an upgrade or clean install of Win 10. When it is run on you PC, it will extract in about 3 to 5 minutes, every product key on the old installation. Print the resulting document as it will also provide in one handy spot about 4 to 5 pages of infromation about your computer.

Link for Belarc Advisor is https://www.belarc.com/products_belarc_advisor

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Wow..

I can't remember the last time I used this OS? Dinosaur City!

Wow is right

allbizz wrote:

I can't remember the last time I used this OS? Dinosaur City!

So accoding to ComputerWorld:
"The percentage of Windows PCs is larger than the percentage of all personal computers because Windows does not run every desktop and laptop. In December, Windows powered 86.8% of the world's personal computers (an increase of seven-tenths of a percentage point). Of the remainder, all but a tiny fraction ran macOS, Linux or Chrome OS, in that order of decreasing popularity."

Looks like Dinosaurs are running wild.... What OS is your shrinking favorite?

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Remember When...

A new release of Windows made people camp out in front of CompUSA and other stores for days?

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And today the same thing

And today the same thing happens when a new iPhone is released, they just got to have bragging rights to the newest product.

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Ditto

John from PA wrote:
dobs108 wrote:

Did a clean install. When it was time to enter the Windows 10 serial number I entered the serial number from my OEM full version of Windows 7 and it worked. The price was right!

“Dobs108” was fortunate to have the serial number, often called the product key. Many may not know what that is, and it is always a good idea to have it, and the same for Office products, prior to doing a clean install which wipes everything out.

I highly recommend a free utility called Belarc Advisor prior to doing an upgrade or clean install of Win 10. When it is run on you PC, it will extract in about 3 to 5 minutes, every product key on the old installation. Print the resulting document as it will also provide in one handy spot about 4 to 5 pages of infromation about your computer.

Link for Belarc Advisor is https://www.belarc.com/products_belarc_advisor

I concur about Belarc Advisor. It has been quite helpful over the years,

If you chose to keep Windows 7...

If you chose to keep Windows 7, then you might want to review the article at https://www.howtogeek.com/509175/how-to-secure-your-windows-... and see what steps (if any) that you might want to do to protect your computer.

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diesel wrote:

A new release of Windows made people camp out in front of CompUSA and other stores for days?

Was that when Microsoft used Mick Jagger's song Start Me Up, in the mid 90s? Windows 95 to be precise. Setup comes in several floppy disks.

cool

Thanks.

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second PC done

dobs108 wrote:

Just finished the clean install of Windows 10 on one of my PCs. It went quicker than anticipated. Even installing the apps went quickly.

It helped that the data is not on the C: solid state drive but on a separate spinning hard drive. This was removed to prevent Windows 10 from formatting that drive, too!

dobs108 smile

Finished the second PC. Everything went well. The Windows 7 product keys worked for the Windows 10 clean install. I am reserving my decision on Windows 10 annoyances because I have only begun to eliminate them.

dobs108 smile

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