"AAA recommends that governments increase use of red light cameras"

 

"Deaths Caused by Drivers Running Red Lights at 10-Year High"
So it looks to me like all the red light cameras haven't done any good in the last 10 yrs but "AAA recommends that governments increase use of red light cameras".
Maybe the camera folks are giving AAA a cut?

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national-international/Deaths-Ca...

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The problem may be the red

The problem may be the red light runners may be looking at their cell phones instead of watching the road.

Red Light Cameras

you can't stop what stupid people do with more cameras.
Block all phones from working if the vehicle is moving.

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red light

I worked next to an intersection that became a red light intersections..... Crashed increased.

The yellow light time was shortened to the Legal minimum.
People who could safely enter and exit on a yellow would brake hard to avoid a ticket....

The revenue to RedFlex is huge...
and 85% of the tickets are safe turns on a red without a full stop.

If they got rid of the right turn tickets where people slow to 5 MPH and make a safe right, and if they turn all yellow light times back to normal, I might support the cameras

AAA is not dealing with the corruption angle

If traffic cameras were used only to improve traffic safety, and if traffic cameras were clearly effective at accomplishing that goal, it would be hard to argue against it. But in cities like Chicago and Baltimore, where red light and speed cameras became part of corruption culture to increase revenue more than traffic safety, it was shown to be a bad idea. When you let companies that have financial incentive to cheat like RedFlex dictate who pays fines rather than sworn law enforcement officers, that's a problem.

Block phones and the consequences are bad

johnm405 wrote:

you can't stop what stupid people do with more cameras.
Block all phones from working if the vehicle is moving.

Good luck with that. I’ve reported impaired drivers with a phone to 911, among other emergency calls from a moving car. A girl in suburban Boston called the police and was rescued as a result of her call after her taxi driver locked the doors and began abducting her for who knows what years ago.

I’m sure glad the phones worked from all of these moving cars.

Stop on red

hermosabeach wrote:

I worked next to an intersection that became a red light intersections..... Crashed increased.

The yellow light time was shortened to the Legal minimum.
People who could safely enter and exit on a yellow would brake hard to avoid a ticket....

The revenue to RedFlex is huge...
and 85% of the tickets are safe turns on a red without a full stop.

If they got rid of the right turn tickets where people slow to 5 MPH and make a safe right, and if they turn all yellow light times back to normal, I might support the cameras

What is a “safe turn” on Red without STOPPING?

Is that like a “safe” pause at a STOP sign without stopping?

I’m not the biggest fan of camera tickets, but everyone should follow the basic rules of an intersection. Police can give a ticket for failing to stop during turn on red, so no problems with a camera doing the same thing for drivers who really don’t stop.

Washington DC is now all but banning right turn on red after stop throughout the city, because drivers can’t be bothered to make a full stop before their right turn on RED, causing pedestrian injuries and fatalities.

No doubt they all thought their rolling turn was “safe.”

So now everyone won’t turn at all until the signal finally cycles to green.

I agree

hermosabeach wrote:

I worked next to an intersection that became a red light intersections..... Crashed increased.

The yellow light time was shortened to the Legal minimum.
People who could safely enter and exit on a yellow would brake hard to avoid a ticket....

The revenue to RedFlex is huge...
and 85% of the tickets are safe turns on a red without a full stop.

If they got rid of the right turn tickets where people slow to 5 MPH and make a safe right, and if they turn all yellow light times back to normal, I might support the cameras

It has been reported that there are more crashes from the red light cameras. The yellow lights should be lengthened so that people are not stopping short when the light turns yellow. The right turn tickets should allow for a quick stop if there is no cross traffic.

Rear-End vs. T-Bone Crashes

It is my recollection from newspaper articles from a while ago that rear-end crashes increase and in-intersection t-bone crashes diminish. As much as I dislike any crash this sounds like a good trade off to me.

Philadelphia

In Philly most of the RLC controlled intersections also have a walk/don't walk signal with a countdown timer. You see people starting to stop while the light is still green when the countdown timer is nearing 0. The light turns yellow at the same time the timer hits 0.

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Bad

idea

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No Turn On Red

Many years ago, Massachusetts was the last state not to allow a turn on red. They finally reached an agreement with the Federal Government to change their law. The deal was that the Feds would pay for the no turn on red signs installed at intersections. Needless to say, the signs were installed everywhere...

Instead of RLC's, install Countdown's

We have a few here and no RLC's, those intersections seem smoother as you can see time left to clear intersection

Sounds about right

Sounds about right

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