DriveLuxe 51 updates (and all Drivexxx x1 devices!) Now they see Galileo sats

 

I don't think this has been reported yet. The DriveLuxe 51 has a couple of updates:

Software version 6.00 March 27, 2019:
Change History
Changes made from version 4.40 to 6.00:
-Added support for the new Garmin BC 40 Wireless Backup Camera.
-Enabled Galileo satellite support.
-Improved routing calculations.
-Improved the reliability of connections to Bluetooth devices.
-Fixed an issue that caused some spoken words to be mispronounced.
-Fixed an issue that could cause incorrect route calculations when using maps of Southeast Asia.
-Improved software stability.

DriveLuxe 51 Language Text software version 2.00 March 27, 2019
Change History
Changes made from version 1.90 to 2.00:
-Various translation updates.

[Later] Thanks to alandb for reporting that updates are available for all Drivexxx x1 devices to include Galileo support! I've revised the thread's Subject so that others will know of the update.

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garmin vs smartphones

CraigW wrote:
KenSny wrote:

Garmin's announcements are confusing me. It would be VERY interesting if anyone is getting the Galileo updates on ANY plain DRIVE unit. By that I mean a NON Drivexxxx. At this point I have my doubts, it's not the first time information from Garmin has been misleading.

FYI: 1 of my Drive 51 was purchased new in the Fall of 2017 and the other in Oct 2018.

Odds are in your favor right now given your two results. If ladybug agrees, then I think it's 100% case closed unless a future update comes along assuming the hardware needed in a Drive 51 is even there.

I bought my drive 51 on ebay for $30 only.
I don't see a point why people buy $200 gps for galileo to upgrade i mean you can buy smartphone with 6in phone with glonass and gps and BD and for $150 with free maps on google play plus you can use it as a tablet or something rather than buying garmin $200. Google play free navigation maps are ten times better than garmin anyways. I have my Moto E5 Supra for like $30 with glonass and GPS and WAAS and BDU except galileo but it is more accurate than garmin.

android has free maps from opensource and it is updated weekly if not monthly around the world maps for FREE. but smartphones arent design for navigating speaker is quieter.

whatever

If you feel that a phone is better, use it. But you still got a decent unit for $50. Nothing critical about not having Galileo is worth all this.

I'm perfectly happy using my units, including an old Nuvi 50 that don't have the new sats.

All the conjecture and guessing what hardware each model has is a waste of time.

Looking back over this thread I'm beginning to think we are being trolled.

I'm done here, no more can be accomplished.

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DriveLuxe 51 Updates

Since there are some other fellow Garmin DriveLuxe 51 owners/users, I am wondering if anybody has had the unit do a series of re-boots, on its own? I have not had this happen before, nor since. Anyway, one day I was driving and I was waiting for the device to come on and it went into a re-boot about six times in a row. Finally, it displayed something about some sort of update and has worked normally since then. This was after I did the up date for the Galileo, by the way. At least a few weeks after, if I recall correctly.

DriveSmart 51LMT-S receives from Galileo sats.

ladybug209 wrote:
KenSny wrote:

Yes. And since version 6.00 was the update where I first read of support and it did not appear I did not hold out any hope for 6.10.

I doubt the hardware is there on the plain Drive units.

If drive and drivesmart 51 have a complete different hardware then it should have different software the only addition to smart is i think bluetooth and wifi which is another hardware but when it comes to GPS chipset it should be the same throughout the series i think. but i am still waiting for their engineer responds.

I wonder if drivesmart 51 has Galileo since both have the same software update.

My DriveSmart 51LMT-S receives from Galileo sats.

Drive x1 galileo support.

It is not uncommon for Garmin to have a common software image for multiple devices in a series. So it is not surprising that they released a software that enabled Galileo support along with various other enhancements and fixes. That update is installed on both DriveSmart and Drive devices, even if only the DriveSmart devices have the hardware for Galileo reception. Garmin should have declared that in their release notes, but they have done the same type of thing on previous models with their software updates.

I have an old nuvi 755, and one software version I installed years ago included a new enhanced Bluetooth function. The problem is that my 755 did not have Bluetooth hardware, but the 765 did. However, that software version was still pushed out to my 755 by WebUpdater even though the new feature didn't apply.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

Philadelphia 'urban canyons'

I drive in the Philadelphia 'urban canyons' on a regular basis and my GPS & Galileo satellite DS61 only loses a signal if I am going slowly through an actual tunnel.

On the other hand, I currently have a free sub to XM radio and that drops the signal all the time.

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galileo vs gps

soberbyker wrote:

I drive in the Philadelphia 'urban canyons' on a regular basis and my GPS & Galileo satellite DS61 only loses a signal if I am going slowly through an actual tunnel.

On the other hand, I currently have a free sub to XM radio and that drops the signal all the time.

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Does it do the same thing without galileo satellites on? did you compare between the two if there's a lot of improvements in urban canyons or tall trees? thanks for the info

If the GPS has 10 foot accuracy i think it has WAAS enabled and should help with GPS satellites alone at urban canyons and trees.

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ladybug209 wrote:
soberbyker wrote:

I drive in the Philadelphia 'urban canyons' on a regular basis and my GPS & Galileo satellite DS61 only loses a signal if I am going slowly through an actual tunnel.

On the other hand, I currently have a free sub to XM radio and that drops the signal all the time.

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Does it do the same thing without galileo satellites on? did you compare between the two if there's a lot of improvements in urban canyons or tall trees? thanks for the info

If the GPS has 10 foot accuracy i think it has WAAS enabled and should help with GPS satellites alone at urban canyons and trees.

My GPS acts the same way it did before the addition of Galileo was added as far as I can remember. Not sure you can turn Galileo on and off. I am in my second month of a free trial of XM radio, I take the same way to work every morning and every morning in the same few spots it "searches" for a satellite.

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. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 550, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .

gps vs galileo

soberbyker wrote:
ladybug209 wrote:
soberbyker wrote:

I drive in the Philadelphia 'urban canyons' on a regular basis and my GPS & Galileo satellite DS61 only loses a signal if I am going slowly through an actual tunnel.

On the other hand, I currently have a free sub to XM radio and that drops the signal all the time.

.

Does it do the same thing without galileo satellites on? did you compare between the two if there's a lot of improvements in urban canyons or tall trees? thanks for the info

If the GPS has 10 foot accuracy i think it has WAAS enabled and should help with GPS satellites alone at urban canyons and trees.

My GPS acts the same way it did before the addition of Galileo was added as far as I can remember. Not sure you can turn Galileo on and off. I am in my second month of a free trial of XM radio, I take the same way to work every morning and every morning in the same few spots it "searches" for a satellite.

Well what i am trying to ask is that coverage in a situation where GPS needs more than 4 satellites like tall buildings and trees I am wondering if it does act the same way as before galileo or does it improve the navigation. GPS needs atleast 4 lock satellite to navigate properly or else it will randomly say turn left on a building.

If you use your GPS in an open area you prolly dont need galileo. GPS plus WAAS should be enough for that.

I answered the question ...

ladybug209 wrote:
soberbyker wrote:
ladybug209 wrote:
soberbyker wrote:

I drive in the Philadelphia 'urban canyons' on a regular basis and my GPS & Galileo satellite DS61 only loses a signal if I am going slowly through an actual tunnel.

On the other hand, I currently have a free sub to XM radio and that drops the signal all the time.

.

Does it do the same thing without galileo satellites on? did you compare between the two if there's a lot of improvements in urban canyons or tall trees? thanks for the info

If the GPS has 10 foot accuracy i think it has WAAS enabled and should help with GPS satellites alone at urban canyons and trees.

My GPS acts the same way it did before the addition of Galileo was added as far as I can remember. Not sure you can turn Galileo on and off. I am in my second month of a free trial of XM radio, I take the same way to work every morning and every morning in the same few spots it "searches" for a satellite.

Well what i am trying to ask is that coverage in a situation where GPS needs more than 4 satellites like tall buildings and trees I am wondering if it does act the same way as before galileo or does it improve the navigation. GPS needs atleast 4 lock satellite to navigate properly or else it will randomly say turn left on a building.

If you use your GPS in an open area you prolly dont need galileo. GPS plus WAAS should be enough for that.

I did answer your question, in my case anyway ... "My GPS acts the same way it did before the addition of Galileo was added as far as I can remember."

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. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 550, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .

gps

gps

Garmin support

So according to garmin specialists Garmin drive 51 is not showing on their system that this is compatible with galileo satellites and they said that they are doing major updates to those compatible ones and they may have to do some analyzing and tests if this Garmin Drive 51 may be enabled in the future update but as of now it is not compatible.

DriveSmart 61

ladybug209 wrote:

gps

In my last comment you can switch the (generic) word GPS to DriveSmart 61, I used the term GPS meaning my Garmin device.

In Philadelphia the only time the signal drops or gets squirrely is in a tunnel or long underpass, in and among the cities tall buildings no problem, before and after the Galileo update.

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. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 550, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .

gps

soberbyker wrote:
ladybug209 wrote:

gps

In my last comment you can switch the (generic) word GPS to DriveSmart 61, I used the term GPS meaning my Garmin device.

In Philadelphia the only time the signal drops or gets squirrely is in a tunnel or long underpass, in and among the cities tall buildings no problem, before and after the Galileo update.

I haven't tried using Drive 51 in tall buildings and trees yet but I have tried my garmin nuvi 1450LMT and 2455LMT both have lost signal once I enter san francisco downtown area where very tall buildings are, I can see there is GPS signal but maybe interference or very weak signal it wants me to turn on a building or a street that is a few blocks away on the other side of the city. I have to rely on my phone GPS while in urban canyon area. I will try this drive 51 if it can handle in same area i was having problem with.

Garmin supported devices for galileo

SO garmin responded me the lists of Devices that supports Galileo Satellite.

https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=YXd153clB76LEPOaWA2799...

Thanks Ladybug209!

Thanks ladybug209! That clears up any remaining questions about which devices support Galileo. It is interesting that the Drive 52 supports Galileo in Europe, but not NA. I would assume that means Garmin sells a different hardware for that model in Europe than they do in the US. Garmin often sells different hardware in the Asian market, but it is unusual for there to be hardware differences between Europe and NA.

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Thank you

ladybug209 wrote:

SO garmin responded me the lists of Devices that supports Galileo Satellite.

https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=YXd153clB76LEPOaWA2799&searchQuery=automotive%20galileo

Thank you, ladybug. Would you consider creating a FAQ on this? See:

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/add/faq

If not, let us know and one of us can create one.

Thanks for the fyi.

Thanks for the fyi.

Good thing ....

At work I always have my DriveSmart 61 set up and on, I use it as a rolling map, a clock and sometimes the breadcrumbs when I am off road in an unmapped area. I was working under an underpass today and my GPS signal was weak to none. The GPS would announce "Satellite signal has been lost" but only for a few seconds would the signal actually be 'lost'.

Out of curiosity I opened the GPS signal page, 3 short bars.

I move around a lot, I drive a construction dump truck, when I was loaded I have to go to where we dump it off. I left the 'signal' page on when I was no longer under cover and if it wasn't for Galileo I wouldn't have had any signal at all for a good part of the area.

The following links are to photos of my GPS, 1rst while under the underpass, then as I was back in the open 2nd & 3rd, then the last was later in the day in the same general area with a more balanced signal.

https://i.postimg.cc/GpzM2yfn/1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/pT6qQtx0/2.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/KzRdhf8H/3.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/HsQFmVTd/4.jpg

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. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 550, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .

Thanks!

soberbyker wrote:

At work I always have my DriveSmart 61 set up and on, I use it as a rolling map, a clock and sometimes the breadcrumbs when I am off road in an unmapped area. I was working under an underpass today and my GPS signal was weak to none. The GPS would announce "Satellite signal has been lost" but only for a few seconds would the signal actually be 'lost'.

Out of curiosity I opened the GPS signal page, 3 short bars.

I move around a lot, I drive a construction dump truck, when I was loaded I have to go to where we dump it off. I left the 'signal' page on when I was no longer under cover and if it wasn't for Galileo I wouldn't have had any signal at all for a good part of the area...

Very nice, especially the image captures. Thanks.

Galio Thank

Nice post

Great News....

Thanks!

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