custom POI multiple voice warnings

 

hi all...
I've installed the PGPSW speed cameras on my Zumo 390 and, after finally figuring out how to make the custom warnings work, it's giving multiple warnings of a camera and even when I've passed the camera.
with POILoader I used the manual function to set distances for each camera but it seems to want to warn me 2, 3 or 4 times before I reach the camera point even if I'm under the speed limit.
does anyone know how to stop this ?

settings...
Proximity Alerts > Audio > Single tone
Proximity Alerts > Alerts > Custom POI

thanks

shorten the alert distance

the shorter the distance of the alert the less it will chime off I have mine set to 400 meters and I get 2 chimes and that's it.

I take it you are in europe

ToastedBlue wrote:

hi all...
I've installed the PGPSW speed cameras on my Zumo 390 and, after finally figuring out how to make the custom warnings work, it's giving multiple warnings of a camera and even when I've passed the camera.
with POILoader I used the manual function to set distances for each camera but it seems to want to warn me 2, 3 or 4 times before I reach the camera point even if I'm under the speed limit.
does anyone know how to stop this ?

settings...
Proximity Alerts > Audio > Single tone
Proximity Alerts > Alerts > Custom POI

thanks

from the fact you're using the Pocket GPS site. The most common reason for repeating alerts is you have a numerical value in the file name and/or the TourGuide keyword.

Make certain you have no digits in the file name as this creates a speed alert which repeats as long as you are above the numerical value in the file name. The keyword TourGuide creates a radius alert with a default value of 400 meters.

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if it was just fixed cameras

if it was just fixed cameras then 400 meters would be fine, but for mobile units you need different warning distances relative to the speed zone.
I don't know what TourGuide is, I'm a long time Tomtom user and this is my first Garmin so a steep learning curve.
thanks

and yes, I'm in Europe... UK

Welcome

Welcome to the site.

We usually recommend the following.

There is a "Learn" button in the upper right of this page next to "red light cameras" that takes you to a Getting Started page. It is worthwhile visiting this page.

To make navigation easy, most browsers provide the following option. When you want to follow a link - but still keep your current page open - you can hold down the "Ctrl" key as you left-click on a link. That action will open a new "Tab" in your browser up on the "Tab" bar. When you then left-click on that new "Tab", you will follow the link - leaving the "Tab" you are now reading open and available to click on and return here.

So, using the "Learn" link, you might try the "Ctrl" - left-click sequence and then return here. You can return by either "X-ing" out of the "Getting Started" page (using the "X" on the "Tab" itself) or just left-clicking on the "Tab" for the page you are on right now.

Note that the Learn Button will give you access to two valuable reference pages -
the "Index" to all of the FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) and the Glossary of Terms and Links.

Since you are new here, I encourage you to go through a couple of the Tutorials.

The first link makes sure the settings on your computer are such that you can do more advanced POI loading.
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/30393

The next link helps you make a backup of your GPS by attaching it to your computer. (NEVER do anything to your GPS until you have a backup). It also assures that you put your (newer) unit into a state where you can see all of the folders there.
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/30394

Let us know how we can help you enjoy your GPS.

what format

ToastedBlue wrote:

if it was just fixed cameras then 400 meters would be fine, but for mobile units you need different warning distances relative to the speed zone.
I don't know what TourGuide is, I'm a long time Tomtom user and this is my first Garmin so a steep learning curve.
thanks

and yes, I'm in Europe... UK

is the PGPS data in? Is it available in a CSV or GPX as the way to set some alerts is slightly different between the two.

With a CSV file, an @ sign before the speed digits sets a speed alert. With Garmin, the distance is variable in that the alert is triggered 36 seconds before you would reach the point at your current speed. The @ symbol triggers the manner in which the alert behaves. If you are below the @speed, the alert sounds once, above the speed it repeats until you slow to the speed or below.

You cannot set a proximity or distance alert within a CSV, that is set with either keywords in the file or in the file name. Using GPX you can set both, a speed and proximity alert for each point.

The POI Loader has a Help screen, it explains the different keywords and there is also a world of help available here in both the FAQs and tutorials. If you are using a Windows PC, the program Extra_Poi_Editor or EPE will help you work with GPX files which are done with HTML tags.

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thanks box car, will have a

thanks box car, will have a look at EPE...
PGPS are .csv format and the code is like this...
co-ordinates, "direction-type:camera number@speed"

-0.39579,51.52151,"NE-GATSO:10@50"

There's the problem

ToastedBlue wrote:

thanks box car, will have a look at EPE...
PGPS are .csv format and the code is like this...
co-ordinates, "direction-type:camera number@speed"

-0.39579,51.52151,"NE-GATSO:10@50"

The problem is in how the camera is noted. The @50 sets a trigger speed as discussed, but the camera number is also evaluated so GATSO:10 sets an alert at 10 units which means it will repeat until you slow below 10 mph or 16 Kph. If you are using Excel, insert a blank column between the Latitude and the camera name and enter the following formula: =if(iserr(find(":",d1,1)),d1,left(d1,find(":",d1,1)-1)&right(d1,len(d1)-find("@",d1,1))

copy the formula and paste it into all the cells in the new Column C, then select all, copy, then paste values. You should have Lon,Lat,"NE-GATSO@50" in the new Column C. Delete Column D and then load the file normally. GATSO is a keyword which triggers an automatic alert.

One final note, you may need to tweak the formula a little, the parens may be off as I wrote this without testing.

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Help me understand the new help

On the website

Speed Information
Speed information in the individual POI name is preceded by the "@" sign: “Speed@20”. Speed information in the filename is preceded by an underscore, “Speed_30”. Any number below 125(mph) or 200(kph) is considered valid speed information. POI Loader prioritizes speed information from highest to lowest priority:

1. Speed information included in the individual POI name will retain the alert regardless of the filename or information entered in manual mode. For example, a POI named "SpeedZone@30" will have an alert speed of 30 even if the filename is “SpeedZone_20” and manual mode is set to 20.
2. Speed information entered in POI Loader’s manual mode is applied to individual POIs with no speed information in their name and will override speed information in the filename.
3. Speed information included in the filename, “School_20. csv” applies the value to individual POIs in the file with no speed information
2/28/2015 POI Loader Help | Garmin

http://www8.garmin.com/products/poiloader/creating_custom_po...

Note the italicized part in the first paragraph

This part of the "Help" file on the Garmin website seems very explicit as to use of the "@" sign and the "_" underscore to identify the "number" which will be used.

However, the Help file of v2.7.3 now on my computer does not include the words in italics. v2.7.3 as of Nov 7, 2013 is what we would still download.

We have assumed that any "number" - regardless of what character precedes it - acts as speed information.

What is going on?

My interpretation

jgermann wrote:

On the website

Speed Information

This part of the "Help" file on the Garmin website seems very explicit as to use of the "@" sign and the "_" underscore to identify the "number" which will be used.

However, the Help file of v2.7.3 now on my computer does not include the words in italics. v2.7.3 as of Nov 7, 2013 is what we would still download.

We have assumed that any "number" - regardless of what character precedes it - acts as speed information.

What is going on?

My interpretation is the underscore is often used to represent a space character so a file name "speedZone_30", "SpeedZone 30" and "SpeedZone30" would all be interpreted the same. I don't have any way of testing this at present so it's an assumption on my part as the version of POI Loader hasn't changed, only an external help file.

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all sorted now, turns out

all sorted now, turns out one of the guys on PGPS wrote a program to convert the speed camera csv files to gpx that resolves most of the Garmin software "uniqueness".
Tomtom really have got custom POI warnings nailed... catch up Garmin

Check Out EPE, like BoxCar suggested

ToastedBlue wrote:

all sorted now, turns out one of the guys on PGPS wrote a program to convert the speed camera csv files to gpx that resolves most of the Garmin software "uniqueness".
Tomtom really have got custom POI warnings nailed... catch up Garmin

I would recommend that you download and install Extra POI Editor, as suggested by BoxCar. Not only will this convert csv, to GPX, it will allow you to create your own files.

http://turboccc.wikispaces.com/Extra_POI_Editor

It also allows you to set individual speed or proximity alerts. It also allows you to change all alerts to a common alert distance. Click Edit-Replace Field and then scroll to Proximity or speed and enter a new value.

p.s. I also suggest that you add the make and model of your GPS to your signature line. Units can have their own capabilities, limitations and quirks and this allows people to be more specific with their help.

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