Maybe the experiment was a success

Your sample size is a little small--if you hung out for a day, there might not be a difference in running-red-light behavior whether or not drivers think a RLC is installed.

Also I suppose there could be a higher rate of rear-end collisions where the lead driver approaches as the light turns yellow and slams on the brakes so as not to get a RLC ticket. And yes, that's still the trailing driver's fault, but if the goal is enhanced safety, you want to see fewer collisions.

But if you're right, and there is reduced red-light-running where the intersection is marked for RLC enforcement even with no camera in use, and if there's no uptick in collisions, then yes, I agree, win-win, better safety, no money grab. Put the boxes up everywhere.

Its always a good idea to handle a dead venomous snake with care... As they have been known to bite even in death.

And RLC's may be like a snake.. Still capable of taking the unsuspecting picture when the correct switch is thrown...

I think when things are self-regulated, the general public will never know what's going on. The media says the program is dead, but the hardware is still there.

Like UTQG tire ratings, or EPA mpg estimates. The general public trusts these numbers because they hear "DOT" and "EPA." When in reality, these numbers are self reported, basically statistically invalid. But they are used to sell, which, again, translates to $$$$.

Interesting commentary, thanks for offering up your thoughts on the subject.

Mileage ratings may be self reported, but there are strict guidelines on how the tests are to be run. If you report incorrectly or fail to follow the guidelines closely, you will be fined and required to correct the problem. Kia did not conduct their tests on mileage for some vehicles correctly. In addition to having to refund money to each owner based on the miles driven, the government also hit them with a sizable fine.

Then there were some nuts in California that decided they wanted to make the lawyers wealthy and filed a class action suit with the result of owners opting into the settlement actually getting less than if they accepted Kia's offering. I was one of those that remained with the company's settlement.

Although this is getting off the original topic, I would love to see those mileage ratings based on either the damn 10% ethanol gas that federal law requires be made and sold, or (even better) both real gas and 10% ethanol gas. The public should see what I'm seeing, which is when you waste money to convert food to ethanol and put it in your gas tank you actually get less than 90% of the mileage that you get on real gasoline, every cent spent on ethanol is more than wasted in my car.

Sure, maybe my car is the one exception, but I don't believe that. There should be real numbers to let consumers know what to expect with the crap gas that the feds require that we are sold.

I don't think people should run red lights.

I also don't think there should be RLCs.

I agree. I have never gotten the mileage rating stated by Acura for my TLX even using the premium gas that they recommended. I spent more money on premium (93 octane) but did not see any benefits. I wonder if I would have been better off just getting regular.

You would have less power since your vehicle was designed for premium....the knock sensor would cause the timing to be retarded and the world would continue in its orbit. MPG would be unchanged because there is no correlation between octane and MPG, octane measures predetonation, not goodness or anything crazy.

It reminds me how many loves 30 MP cameras, when in fact a good lense and 6 MP is excellent for 8x10 photos. It's marketing that says we need 8,10,16,24,30 megapixels....

marketing rules, that's why people buy 300 HP cars with only 240 lbs. ft. HP sells, not torque

... currently holding gubernatorial positions, also have red light/speed cameras working in their states. Might be a new indicator on how they might likely treat the working/tax paying class if they were to be elected President. Now that I would consider an interesting statistical experiment.

Today, anybody with a phone is now Marty Scorcese.

Look at that NYPD detective who got canned as a result of flipping out on a uber cab driver while the fare filmed away (he was pretty nasty, but should he lose his stripes?). So it cuts both ways and basically keeps everybody honest. The cam does not lie.