CES 2015 - Garmin products

Thanks. Going to the nuvi and dezl links

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-the-road/automotive/2015-...

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-the-road/trucking/dezl-57...

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-the-road/trucking/dezl-77...

from your link in the original post, it appears that the English language manuals don't exist yet for any device.

From each model's "more photos" my guess is that Garmin is continuing its new decision to offer GPS units with non-powered cradles except for the dezl 770.

Note, too, that these 2015 Essential nuvis come with either the Lower 49 states or US/Canada maps so be sure to buy a US/Canada model if an Alaskan/Canadian trip is in your plans over the lifetime of the nuvi. It appears that the two dezls have full North America maps.

So far, I don't like any of the models any better than the one I'm using now, the 7" 2797 lmt.

... product lines. Instead of meaningful technological advances of core purpose, competency & value, manufacturers are bringing forth topical trendiness w/catch phrase marketing. We see the same in the automotive area, mid market apparel, and consumer electronics across various categories. Nor have we yet to see the R&D benefits of currency realignments in product lines. If history repeats itself (with the 1970's as a guide), it will probably take a meaningful recession (like 1980-82) for manufactures to get back to basics and start remaking money the old fashioned way: by earning it. For now far too much paper money has been printed worldwide and is being made by the 1%ers, while actually bringing forth little but trash talk, glamour and glitz.

An internet connected refrigerator anyone? A family sedan w/skinny tires on a half pipe? "Spoken Garmin Real Directions™ guide like a friend using landmarks and traffic lights?" Anyone of us can continue the list ad nauseum...

No 2015 Elite Nuvi?

Good analysis -- going for the sizzle and ignoring the steak.

For the wearables class, they continue to push what they've been pushing, rather than breaking out -- keeping the GPS for example.

I think it's easier for a company such as Fitbit to expand up than for Garmin to expand down. Same with smartwatches -- Pebble, who does iPhone/Android integration, Polar who have been in the serious exercise/fitness market for a long, long time with multiple price points, and a plethora of folks at the high end, from the Moto 360 to that fruit company in Cupertino who won't be at CES yet will cast a shadow over the place, and even Montblanc, coming in with a fitness band (a $400 option on a $3500 watch, but it's their market).

Too many companies worry about cannibalizing sales of their other products, ignoring the fact that if they don't introduce new products to take those sales away, their competition will...

Will be interesting to see what gets announced, and what actually gets shipped within the year...

I'll take one of each…well, not really. Just need a quartz analog watch for me.

Not happy either, with what I see so far. I was looking for them to incorporate the dash cam with an updated 6 or 7" model. Similar to the one they are already selling in the Asian market. Other wise I won't be buying another GPS unless my 2797 craps out.

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/43665

I agree. I am underwhelmed, too. I would have loved to have seen them announce Android based Nuvis in the automobile line for the United States market.

These look nice for sure.

I also would have liked to see an android based unit available here in the US for 2015.

Well, 2015 isn't over yet. Garmin doesn't always announce ALL their new products at CES, although I am not very optomistic about any high end nuvi announcements.

Some excellent points there. In fact, Garmin may have actually relased more at this CES than others in the past, but I have nothing to back me up on that. I think when it comes to Garmin, we have to remind ourselves that they have lots of markets, like fitness, aviation, marine, outdoors, etc. Sometimes they release prodcuts in conjunction with trade shows for that market. for example, http://www8.garmin.com/company/tradeshows/ EAA 2015 might see some new Garmin aviation products. Remember, the C in CES is Consumer. Many of the products announced are consumer related. Possibly a higher end Garmin Nuvi could be announced at an auto show. (Maybe Garmin Nuvi Essential is CES and Garmin Nuvi Advanced or Prestige is a big auto show!)

I suspect that the Garmin Nuvifone and Garminfone were announced at Mobile World Congress, but I have no proof of that at this moment. Big smartphone companies, say Apple or Samsung, might intentionally release product announcements at times far separate from trade shows.

On the other hand, some times Garmin just announces products at times that don't coincide with trade shows. I can only imagine that any number of factors come into play when determining when to announce certain products.

I want a nuvi GPS model that does everything, not a watch!

Adding a dash cam seems to be a something that folks might find value in...as long as none of the GPSr functions are stripped in the process.

I'll settle for ones that work as expected / advertised.
As for a four figure watch I've always wanted an all black Rado.
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BTW: I actually consider Garmin having little to show at CES a positive, if it suggests that the company will slow its roll outs & instead insure that no product is announced until it is fully thought through, tested, & ready to ship.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/7/7506815/garmin-smartwatches...

mostly pictures of the Garmin smartwatch products and some discussion of where they fit into the market.

(and however much a product marketing person wants to position something, the market decides)

As for me, I would rather see Garmin make firmware/ software improvements rather than introduce new product line(s) to the market. I began my GPS use in 2006 with the nuvi 660T and upgraded to the 1490T four years ago. I just recently added the nuvi 3597lmthd and am very pleased with it thus far (I use it in the portrait mode). However research has revealed that there is room for improvement in the firmware/software.

Garmin offers a top notch product, I just wish they would put as much effort to providing exceptional software support.

It seems that industry leaders like Garmin, Apple, etc. have become victims of their own success. We expect these companies to come up with "game changers" on a regular basis, yet criticize them when we perceive they are using the public to beta-test new products.

To paraphrase sigwar's point, everybody on this forum likely has a GPS and isn't really looking for a new one with more bells and whistles. We just want our current one to remain functional and be properly supported.

But I guess having a solid product that is properly supported doesn't really attract many new users.

Now that CES 2015 will soon be behind us, the 2015 SHOT Show is just around the corner. Garmin is scheduled to be there. Perhaps they will be featuring their Hunt View maps this year.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/maps/on-the-trail-maps/hunt-...

http://n1a.goexposoftware.com/events/ss15/goExpo/exhibitor/v...

Not to mention that the 2015 U.S. Sport Aviation Expo is also coming up soon. Garmin will have things there, too.

http://www.garmin.com/en-US/explore/intheair/

It seems like they are all in the "Mature Product" phase now. It doesn't seem to matter what brand you are talking about. Little improvements like better a display, smoother re-fresh but it seems like the last big jump in technology was 4-5 years ago with the tweeks they did to pick up the satellites better, voice recognition, pairing with smart phones. Hard to envision what the next big leap is going to be for standalone GPS. They may have reached their technological peak.

Well, I don't know that I would call it a big leap, but on the Garmin Singapore Tire Pressure Monitor Sensor (TPMS) and Integrated Driving Recorder. It looks like the cameras are starting to catch on here in the United States. I have seen both back up cameras and cameras to monitor other traffic.

http://www.garmin.com.sg/products/ontheroad/nuvi4592lm/

Backup cameras have to be installed in all 2016 model cars if I remember correctly. That's why it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to pay extra for one as part of an option package.

I've seen some of the sensor packages on other vehicles like the blind spot monitor and such. Most of these have an indicator in the side mirror that lights whenever another vehicle is "in the zone." To me, that's distracting as it goes off when you are even stopped at a traffic light or waiting to make a turn and traffic is moving by on one side. Those systems need some intelligence behind them before they can be more than a gimmick.

Someone just recently bought a vehicle without that feature & would enjoy having it.

The features offered on Garmin's 2015 Essential line either don't interest me or are already available on my 3597. I won't be trading up this year.

Although the 3597 isn't included in Garmin's 2015 line, new units are still readily available at many retail outlets. The supply of factory refurbs appears to be dwindling though.

no elite series yet?

I am not sure what you mean by "elite" series, but if you mean the Prestige series, Garmin has not had anything since the 3597LMTHD in 2013. Forum member t923347 has told us in another post that a reliable source informed him that Garmin will not be announcing or making another Prestige model. Assming that is true, it seems we are at the end of the line on the high end automotive models.

I guess the good news is that Garmin has continued to add more and more features to the Essentials and Advanced lines.

What do we know on the dezl 770? How does it spec wise compare to dezl 760 ie memory space, processor refresh rate? See the battery still sucks at 1 hour. Does have a new housing and glass screen. What type of glass maybe gorilla glass3. Thinking its time to upgrade my nuvi 465T. She's pretty old bought it when Garmin joined the truckers GPS race.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150105005207/en/Garm...

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-the-road/trucking/dezl-77...

I purchased the 2013 nüvi 3597LMTHD, which I see also became the 2014 Prestige nüvi (the "2014 Prestige" was the same model number, so I assume the unit was exactly the same). And now, it appears it will also be the 2015 Prestige. A lot of progress being made there.

But then Garmin continues to state on its web site that the Prestige is its most advanced unit; um, really? Two year old technology that lacks some of the features (such as Direct Access) introduced in the newer and cheaper Essential line? I don't get it.

I did also notice that the Auto Show starts tomorrow in Detroit. http://www.naias.com/ I checked the Garmin website and the old 2014 list does not show that as something they participate in. http://www8.garmin.com/company/tradeshows/

This is from Garmin's site:

"The Prestige Series is driving guidance that redefines the category. nüvi 3597LMTHD unites voice activated navigation with the most advanced feature set available from Garmin. Includes Garmin Real Directions with Garmin Real Voice, lifetime North American maps, HD Digital Traffic and compatibility with Bluetooth and Smartphone Link. Also features a crisp 5.0″ high-res display, elegant styling and a powered magnetic mount."

http://sites.garmin.com/en-US/nuvi/

So, two year old technology has the "most advanced feature set available from Garmin"? I'm not sure about that, given additional features added to the Essential and Advanced line since 2013.