Maps on 3580 SD card.

If it is a Garmin card, it should work. if it isn't then the maps are locked to the 52LM and not usable on another unit.

Are the SD maps pre-installed maps from Garmin? Or are they maps that were downloaded and installed on a SD card?

Looking at your other post indicating the 52LM you purchased was in the UK and had lifetime maps for that area only. I believe you may have downlaoded the latest map to the SD card for the 52LM unit to save space.

Your map of the UK & Ireland is locked to only be used on the 52LM, your 3580 WILL NOT READ IT.

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/42933

So that is the problem, they are not the Garmin maps, they are ones I downloaded and put on the card.
That leads me to another question if I can't do that. I do have a 52LM which I purchsed in England with the England, Ireland maps on it. Is there a way for me to put those maps onto the 3580LM? I just want to have both USA and Britain on the same GPS when I travel. Thanks for your help.

Hawkslayer...

http://www.poi-factory.com/node/42933

I don't know what you mean by "they are not the Garmin maps, they are ones I downloaded and put on the card".

Are these the free open street maps?, if so they would work on the 3580. You would need to place them on a folder named "Map" on the SD card.
You must create that folder yourself and copy any extra maps to that folder. You can name the map anything you wish, but it must have a .img extension.

Any Garmin Maps that you have from the 52LM WILL NOT be recognized on the 3580.

When I say I downloaded them and they are not Garmin. I was wrong to say that, I should have said I downloaded them and they were not Garmin 3580 maps. They are Garmin. I was updating the England Ireland maps on the 52LM and saved the updated map to a card. It is a genuine Garmin map. It must be locked to the 52LM and I can't use it.

Hawkslayer...

That is correct, maps downloaded for one Garmin device can't be used on another device.

That is correct, you CANNOT USE IT since it's locked to the 52LM.

The maps are all the same, whether it be for a 3580 or 52LM for the specific area. They have lock codes to lock them to the device they were intended for.

The exception is if you buy an SD card with a Garmin Map, it is locked to that card, it cannot be copied and transferred to another SD card. However, you can use that card in any Garmin Nuvi and it will work.
Maps purchased on SD cards WILL NOT have Junction Views or any Voice Command files included so you lose those features.

If you still want to have the UK & Ireland map on the 3580 you can download a free map from the links below and put it on an SD card into the Map folder I described in my earlier post.

1. http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/
2. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Downloa...

Note the free maps will be larger in size than Garmin’s and they WON'T include POI's that are included on Garmin Maps.

You also will lose spoken turn by turn directions that Garmin's TTS voices provide.

Why not just use the 3580 in North America and if travelling to the UK, update the 52LM to the latest map and bring that one with you. Far cheaper than buying another SD card for the 3580 for the UK & Ireland.

I have a Garmin nuvi 1490 with life time maps...and I have a SD 4 GB in the little slot..when I go to the Garmin express to download my Map updates, it says there isn't enough room..do I need to erase what is on the card now and start over or do I need to buy a bigger card?

You are correct in what you suggest in taking both GPS's, I guess that when I have to travel in both countries, the best solution would be to take both GPS's. I was thinking there might be a way of getting both maps on one GPS, thus reducing the luggage weight and size, but that obviously isn't an option. I want to thank everyone who responded to my problem. Thanks guys.

Hawkslayer...

It appears that the Garmin update software for my 3580 has installed Gigabytes of information on a hard drive which didn't have much space to begin with and this has slowed up my computer. Do I need to have all this information? If so, can I move it onto another drive? If I don't need it, can I delete it?

Hawkslayer...

Gigabytes of what kind of data? If it is old map files, they can be deleted using Windows Control Panel to delete programs. I would keep the last 2014 update at all costs. It appears to be the last version allowing you to print maps as 2015.1 states it will not print the maps because of copyright restrictions.

Like the title says, I guess it must be maps. it is taking up 7.14G. I see no link in the control panel to delete maps, only links to the Garmin programs. If I delete those, does it delete the maps? I have space on other drives if I could move this stuff over to them.

Hawkslayer...

On the Control Panel is the option to remove programs. The maps should be listed in the list of programs/files that can be deleted. They are installed using a Windows Installer, so they each have an uninstall file the Control Panel can access. Lacking that, use the Revo Uninstaller to accomplish the same thing.

I have no links to the maps in my Windows uninstaller. I d/loaded the Revo installer that and doesn't show any links to the maps either. I have found the folder with the map in it, can I just delete it?

Hawkslayer..

No don't delete any thing especially maps that you are not sure about it.When you download your maps if you selected to just installed to the GPS and not the computer none will show.

When you go to Control panel then either go to add or remove programs or program and features. Depends on what windows you are using.Look for "Garmin City Navigator North America NT 2015.10" that is the latest maps that you want to keep on your computer.Look for others that are no longer needed with a different year at the end.

You will also see under programs such as examples only. Garmin BaseCamp,Communicator Plugin,Mapsource.POI Loader.USB Drivers and WebUpdater. Keep them.

What does Base Camp or Mapsource tell you are installed as maps? I wouldn't delete the folder if you use either of the programs, just the old maps you no longer need. As I stated earlier, keep 2014.40 as you can print the maps from this version but 2015.10 won't let you print due to copyright restrictions.

If what you are looking at are Garmin map files, you can tell what version they are from the file name. As this particular computer is new, I only have the 2015.10 installed in C:\ProgramData\Garmin\Maps. It takes just over 2.5 gig of space.

I am still using Windows Xp and I guess that may be the problem with the maps not showing on the uninstaller. I only very recently got the 3580 and installed the map and it is the 2015.10 I have no ther maps, but it is taking up 7.14G of space that I can ill afford.

Hawkslayer...

Just a suggestion make a backup copy and put them on a SD card or USB stick.Using BaseCamp will allow you to access maps with the 3580 connected to the computer.

You may already know this but I have a suggestion which will let you tell us where thing are.

http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/treesize-free-portabl...
is a link to a portable version of Tree Size which I have used for years.

Put the download (TreeSizeFreePortable_3.0.1.paf.exe) in some folder of your choice and the run the executable. It should offer to create the portable program in that same folder (after which you can delete TreeSizeFreePortable_3.0.1.paf.exe).

NOTE - this program does not make any changes to your registry and leaves no tracks after it runs except in the folder into which you place it.

I like to right click on the program "TreeSizeFree.exe" and do a "Send To.." my desktop so I can run it whenever I am wondering about disk space.

When you run it (click on the Scan menu item and pick your C: drive), it will list the folders that are taking up the most space High to low, by default). You can drill down within Folders to find large files.

I am always surprised to see how much space "System Volume Information" (which are system restore points) takes up.

We would be interested in what you find as I do not think that large files should be slowing down your computer.

I did like you suggested and Treesize shows that the folder Map NA-2015-10 is taking up 7,200.7 MB. The restore points you mentioned are taking up 1,877.0 MB.

I have now deleted a couple of programs I very seldom use and the computer is a bit faster. Though I would like to make more space, perhaps I should move the map onto a SD card.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Hawkslayer.

Your problem with a "slow" computer may not be data but all the background tasks and applications running. A lot of programs install monitors that continually check for updates and submit reports over the Internet. That's the primary cause of your computer slowing down and not the fact you have 7 gigs of map data.

A little off subject.But if you are looking for something to give XP a boost try this.Lots of features but care then scan will do a lot.Use free version. http://www.iobit.com/advancedsystemcareper.html?Str=download

Since you liked Treesize Free and were successful with it, let me make a couple of more suggestions that help me keep my computer running well.

CCleaner is is a tool that cleans out unused files AND looks at the registry for stuff left over from uninstalled programs. I swear by it and think everyone should have it and run it once a week. Get the PORTABLE version at http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/builds

Autoruns is a tool that looks to see what you have starting up every time you boot your computer. I have always been amazed at what runs every startup that I really don't need. For example, I see no reason for Adobe to check every startup to see if any of the Adobe tools I have onboard need to be updated. Get this at http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/autoruns-portable

Great minds must think alike. I already have used both of the programs you have suggested and used them regularly. I love C-Cleaner, it does a great job of cleaning out the junk. I also use Defraggler and find it also does a good job. Thanks for the suggestions.

Hawkslayer...

I used CC Cleaner for years.Even when it was known as Crap Cleaner. The only draw back I found and is why I no longer use it.It will sometimes delete a needed file and you usually find out at the worst time.When you need it.Or get the message when you shut down the computer.Message about a file missing.Or opening up a file a certain file needed.Maybe all that has been fixed by now since it has been a while when I stop using it.So be careful on what you let it delete.

I have been using CCleaner since back when it was Crap Cleaner myself. To my knowledge, I have never had it delete a file that I did not ask it to - like Temp internet files, temp files, clipboard, memory dumps, old prefetch data, etc.

I have a number of friends that are in the same position - never having had a problem.

A computer guru I follow - Leo Notenboom of ask-leo.com - recommends it.

Like I said it has been a while. But at that time was the reason I dumped it. My own personal experience with it using XP.Here is some good info on the program http://ask-leo.com/ccleaner_windows_cleaning_tool.html . Read what he says on registry programs. Even though many use them including myself.

As pointed out, many do not recommend using a registry cleaner.

http://www.howtogeek.com/113382/how-to-use-ccleaner-like-a-p...

yes, but this article notes

I have used it for over a decade and have never had a problem.

So - it amounts to personal preference. If you are in doubt, then don't use it.

I agree with jgermann, I too have used CCleaner for years and never had an issue. Its registry cleaning option is one of the most conservative I've used.

As John said, "If you are in doubt, then don't use it". There are many other features within the program that are outstanding, it's one of my favorite pieces of software.

Leo the guru and others have voiced their opinions on registry cleaners but you have the final decision in whether or not it's actually worth using.