Speed camera fines could become a thing of the past if Hyundai has its way.

I wonder where they will get the speed camera locations?

dobs108

Somehow the States & local municipalities will creatively find a way to either challenge the legality of such devices or enlarge their mobile cameras to keep revenue up.

Fred

From here of course

I would assume that they will use something similar to a radar detector system. If that is the case I wonder how it would fly in those jurisdictions where radar detectors are not allowed?

Laser would not work for speed cams since they need to focus on something specific on the car. Typically laser is pointed at the licence plate of a vehicle.

The success of their program is only as good as the quality and timeliness of their camera database. I wonder how much they'll charge for the database subscription.

Seems like this could be dangerous ... for example if you were trying to pass another vehicle. Years ago I drove a school bus that had a "governer" mechanism on the carburator that wouldn't allow you to go over 55 mph. It would really throw you when you were trying to pass on the highway and the engine would flatten out all of a sudden. If you hadn't cleared the vehicle you were passing, your only option was to brake and pull back in behind.

... but shhhhh; those who know, know what this is all about.

For those who don't, won't or haven't figured it out yet, it will not matter. The latter can be expected to demand even more.

Why not? It accomplishes exactly what the authorities want, for drivers to slow the **** down and not speed. At the same time, the driver is not going to get a fine.

Now, people who STILL complain are going to find it harder to justify their positions, which has always been that they want to break the law and feel that technology should not be used against them.

Not a bad idea, but my Garmin loaded with POI Factory camera files will do same job warning. And it's free.

You ain't seen nothing yet.

Auto pilot:

Keeping your car in its lane with stability.

Auto breaking, keeping you a safe distance from things out in front of you.

Auto speed control, knows speed limits.

Realtime decisions where to position its self on the road.

I just hope it will come with an off switch for that computer.

The Garmin is not free however.

If the technology works, that is my kind of car.

you can take your Garmin with you from car to car.

Don't you think that adding that feature will significantly boost the base level cost of the car???

Fred

Sounds like a good way for vendors to make money on a subscription to keep the speed camera database current. Like paying to get updated maps for a built-in gps.

to make money on the subscription.

It would probably be an option rather than standard equipment so it shouldn't change the base price. But the cost may not be too bad. Many cars are using automated braking these days to help with things ranging from front end collisions to hitting something in your blind spot while in reverse. If the sensors are already in place, the cost to implement braking for speed cameras is minimal. Check out this diagram of the radar sensors and cameras on a new Mercedes - the technology that's going into cars these days is pretty cool:
http://besttechcars.com/10-best-tech-cars-2014.html/mercedes...

Interesting but Mercedes are high cost cars for buyers who want the newest & the best. Low end cars, I would think, would take a huge hit pricewise.

Fred

State wants their money.

Mercedes is just an example, and one that happens to use a metric ton of sensors. Lots of other car makers are using technology like this, for instance Subaru already has a crash avoidance system:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101066163#.
If the technology to apply the brakes based on sensor input is already in the car, the speed camera feature is a simple extension of existing hardware/software.

I've always referred to us as lazy--try to buy a new car with a clutch. If you can find one, most of the time you will have to pay more because it's not stocked, and you can't get a discount on it the way you can with the 400 other cars that are in stock.

As far as relying on the brakes for everything from a fake limited slip to hill holding to stability and traction control, nowadays rear brakes often wear faster than the fronts, which I find to be funny....

Think of the money drivers would be saving by not getting a speeding ticket?

I guess they could save the same amount by driving the speed limit, but where's the fun in that???

That's how the RADAR detectors with RLC/ false positive locations do it.

With automatic braking, lane control, and other car "safety" features, we'll have electric cars like Disneyland's People Movers.

If most of these automated cameras won't issue tickets unless they can identify the driver, wouldn't it be cheaper to just wear Groucho glasses whenever behind the wheel?

Since when is driving fun? 95% of the population doesn't know what a clutch is and prefers to stream music, shave, do makeup, and play video games while they drive

I don't like the idea of automatic braking, if the streets are icy, or just rained it can end up worse than a ticket.

Eventually, cars will not let you speed anywhere, leaving the states to come up with another "fee" because they are going to get their money one way or the other. If enforcement fines decrease, they will come up with another way to get their money. Remember, it's not your money it is their money, they are just nice enough to let you keep some of it most of the time.

Cars that drive themselves.

Good thing those things won't happen during my lifetime. It'll be very difficult to implement, both technically & politically.

Fred

I hope I am nowhere around when they are testing these things.... I forsee alot of bugs to work out.

Sounds very promising. Hope other manufacturers follow suit.

we can end stop light running, speeding, the next thing would probably be stop sign cams. Why rolling stops are the least minor of the offenses, nobody knows, the fines are serious if caught by Five O.