Get the 5s or Wait for the 6?

 

Decisions, decisions. My battery is dying in my poor old SG2S, although it will probably last another year. I recently got my wife an iPhone 4s, but I've been using it more than her grin I have to admit that I am impressed, even with a smaller screen. From all I've read there's a lot to like about the 5s. HOWEVER, I've heard the iPhone 6 will have a larger screen, which I would really like to have since I plan to keep it for awhile. Ergo my dilemma...get the 5s now and start enjoying it, or wait a few months (maybe) for the iPhone 6, betting that it will have a larger screen?

Weigh in with your opinions for either, neither or ?

Shooter

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And for the inevitable criticism ...

A refresher course here:
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Looked at iPhone & Samsung

Looked at iPhone & Samsung Galaxy S5. Went with GS5. 5" screen is nice. Coming from older Galaxy phone I could not find any feature to make me go to Apple.

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Arrghh!

The key feature I wanted, OIS, is only on the larger 6+. I don't really want that large of a cellphone, but I think in the long run, I'd regret not going with OIS.

Once again, it is compromise, compromise. Sigh. I guess I'll get used to a larger phone.

It's actually funny that we are blessed to have so many choices. wink

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Comparisons

There is an article comparing the different iPhone models and whether you should upgrade at:
http://www.imore.com/should-you-upgrade-new-iphone

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Shooter wrote:

The key feature I wanted, OIS, is only on the larger 6+. I don't really want that large of a cellphone, but I think in the long run, I'd regret not going with OIS.

Once again, it is compromise, compromise. Sigh. I guess I'll get used to a larger phone.

It's actually funny that we are blessed to have so many choices. wink

is certainly important, but I am going with the iPhone 6. I'm sure that you will enjoy the Plus. But the Plus is too big for me.

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Shooter wrote:

The key feature I wanted, OIS, is only on the larger 6+. I don't really want that large of a cellphone, but I think in the long run, I'd regret not going with OIS.

Once again, it is compromise, compromise. Sigh. I guess I'll get used to a larger phone.

It's actually funny that we are blessed to have so many choices. wink

Do we really need OIS on phone cameras? OIS can certainly help telephoto zoom lenses because zooming in maximizes camera shake. I don't think it's as important on a wide angle lens (camera lenses are wide). I can shoot 1/15 sec with a 17 mm (wide angle) lens without the help of OIS and get tack sharp images.

Decisions, Decisions, Decisions...

Shooter wrote:

The key feature I wanted, OIS, is only on the larger 6+. I don't really want that large of a cellphone, but I think in the long run, I'd regret not going with OIS.

Once again, it is compromise, compromise. Sigh. I guess I'll get used to a larger phone.

It's actually funny that we are blessed to have so many choices. wink

So many really good choices. I'll be picking up a 6 once the dust settles. I'll be updating from a 4S.

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larger screen

at what point is a phone screen to big ? where do you put these phones when walking around there to big for a pocket. ive seen people put them in their rear pocket because there to large for the shirt pockets, I guess you could carry them in your purse or in a back pack. I guess im old fashioned if it doesn't fit in my pocket I don't buy it.

Slide rules

geo334 wrote:

I guess im old fashioned if it doesn't fit in my pocket I don't buy it.

In the old days, one could always tell the Engineering students, even when their jackets covered their shirt's pocket protector. They had their slide rules clipped to their belts.

I used a circular slide rule

I used a circular slide rule in class, cause it fit in a large book jacket. Nothing hanging on belt to look like a sword. wink

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KenSny wrote:

I used a circular slide rule in class, cause it fit in a large book jacket. Nothing hanging on belt to look like a sword. wink

Not only did it not look like a sword, a 6" round was the same as a 10" straight. An 8" round was truly a tool with some better precision from a mechanical device.

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I am an Google Android

I am an Google Android person but I have to tell you I'm impressed with the I6+. I have the Note 3 and I love the large screen. Even with the GPS, these tired old eyes prefer the 7" screen. Bigger is better.

Old specs

Wowie Zowie. The new iPhone has such impressive specs. They remind me of a two-year old Android device. Not impressed...

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thrak wrote:

Wowie Zowie. The new iPhone has such impressive specs. They remind me of a two-year old Android device. Not impressed...

Apple's forte is making the most of those specs that don't impress you and will perform as well, or better than your beloved Google data mining tool you're using.

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even trade?

kch50428 wrote:
thrak wrote:

Wowie Zowie. The new iPhone has such impressive specs. They remind me of a two-year old Android device. Not impressed...

Apple's forte is making the most of those specs that don't impress you and will perform as well, or better than your beloved Google data mining tool you're using.

Is trading Google's data mining an even swap for what ITunes does? Steve Cook just sells the data rather than ads.

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Box Car wrote:

Is trading Google's data mining an even swap for what ITunes does? Steve Cook just sells the data rather than ads.

Steve Cook or Tim Jobs?

With One Big Difference...

thrak wrote:

Wowie Zowie. The new iPhone has such impressive specs. They remind me of a two-year old Android device. Not impressed...

The iPhone works.

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Really, I can't stop chuckling

thrak wrote:

Wowie Zowie. The new iPhone has such impressive specs. They remind me of a two-year old Android device. Not impressed...

I know some people that were staunch Android users. They would make fun of my iPhone because of things they had the the iPhone "didn't". They are all using iPhones now because they can trust the iPhone to work, and do what it does very well.

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All my relatives use Apple

All my relatives use Apple phones/tablets - I am the only one using an Android tablet. There's enough to love about both.

I see Apple as trying to keep up with Android - such as larger screen, and widgets.

iPhone

I tried the Android after being an iPhone user. I hated the Android. It just does not work like a iPhone.

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it's a ....

Shooter wrote:

Well, I guess if I waited this long, I might as well see what the 6 is like. My battery on my SG2S Has been acting erratic lately, going from 50% to less than 10% in a matter of minutes while I was accessing my email at the airport. When I got home to charge it, it was 50% again!

Plot to make you buy another one before your SG2S is supposed to die

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apple had no choice

They had to offer the herd what the other guys have been doing for more than 3 years and somehow convince them that those features now work better in the iOS platform.

This move is not to attract Android customers as much as keeping the ones they have.

Observe the shepherds wearing blue tops: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLkyIY5jq-A

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flaco wrote:

Observe the shepherds wearing blue tops: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLkyIY5jq-A

Blah, blah, blah.

http://wp.me/p2sPFm-fGHb

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Made A Decision

I finally decided to bite the bullet and ordered a 6+.

Now I just have to wait for it to be delivered (along with a lot of other folks). rolleyes

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The Question now is:

Do I get the 6?

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larger is better for the eyes but smaller is better to hold

gerrydrake wrote:

I am an Google Android person but I have to tell you I'm impressed with the I6+. I have the Note 3 and I love the large screen. Even with the GPS, these tired old eyes prefer the 7" screen. Bigger is better.

LOL - I bought the iPad mini when it came out but my eyes tired eyes prefer the larger iPad... but my hands for holding, prefer the mini.... smile

Agreed

geo334 wrote:

at what point is a phone screen to big ? where do you put these phones when walking around there to big for a pocket. ive seen people put them in their rear pocket because there to large for the shirt pockets, I guess you could carry them in your purse or in a back pack. I guess im old fashioned if it doesn't fit in my pocket I don't buy it.

Agreed. I wonder how many people ordered a 6 Plus blindly without trying them out, and once they get it and realize it's too big to carry in a pocket, will want out. Maybe not many (and they'll have no trouble reselling it if they do), but most people used to carrying their iPhone in their pocket are going to have to figure something different out with a 6 Plus.

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6 vs 6+

Shooter wrote:

I finally decided to bite the bullet and ordered a 6+.

Now I just have to wait for it to be delivered (along with a lot of other folks). rolleyes

Shooter, why did you go with the 6+ ?

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waiting for the note 4

If I'm gonna stare and look at a phone all day, I don't want to squint.

Battery

I truly wish Apple would design their phones to have swappable battery packs. Somehow, I don't think we'll ever see it. I have all three devices (BB included) for work and have battery packs for all of them but Apple. Hate having a non-functioning device 'cause I forgot carry the charger cable!

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6 or 6+

I was going to order the 6+ blindly but I'm now split 50/50

I am truly astounded that

I am truly astounded that anyone, let alone millions of people would buy the I6 or 6+ over the Android. The Samsung Note 3, for example, has larger screen, replaceable battery, replaceable memory, is a quad core processor, not a dual core, like the I6+, a 13 mp cam, instead of an 8 mp cam, an s-pen and many other advantages. Even the Samsung S5 has a fingerprint scanner. The I6, just like the previous versions, is a catch-up phone. I suppose Apple people are like the old Blackberry people, just a cult of people that had to have one.

you may be on to something

gerrydrake wrote:

like the old Blackberry people, just a cult of people that had to have one.

If I ever go to Home Depot and I'm greeted by the associates clapping the customers entering the store I'm running out of there they maybe serving Kool-Aid next.

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Get the 5s

Like you I had a phone that was dying..... (in my case I'm a diehard Blackberry fan - then again i also hung onto my palm III then palm V for the longest time...)

My contract was up 6 mths ago... I was ready to try an iphone and really wanted to hold out for the 6. I gave up in May when Radioshack ran their $99 special for an Iphone 5S (ATT renew 2 yr contract). I LOVE IT!! It's fast and syncs seamlessly with my ipad. I'm happy to hold onto it until end of contract then consider an upgrade to 6 maybe.... For me personally the 5S is a better fit for one handed operations. YMMV.

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Battery and OIS

diesel wrote:

Shooter, why did you go with the 6+ ?

Diesel,

The main reasons I chose the 6+ were the larger battery and OIS; with OIS being the deal breaker for the 6. If the 6 would have had OIS, I would have accepted the smaller battery.

I have been using two hands for my SGS2, so that was not an issue for me. I cut out a template of the 6+ and it still fits in my pocket. I like the idea of the expanded mail and text screens.

Now I'm hoping my battery in my SGS2 can hold out a few more weeks until the 6+ arrives. Today, it went from 100% to 70% in a few minutes just sitting on my desk. A few minutes later, it went back up to 93%.

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gerrydrake wrote:

I suppose Apple people are like the old Blackberry people, just a cult of people that had to have one.

And you insufferable Android louts keep spouting off about how stupid you think people who don't follow you in your choice of mobile electronic devices are... just use what suits your needs, and shut up about it. And let others do the same.

People like you are why I seldom come here... maybe it's time to just quit all together...

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Another Convert

So I finally went to the Apple Store last night to check out the 6 and 6+. I'll be getting the 6, as I expected. The 6+ is too big for my usage. No way I can put that in a pocket and carry it the way I do now or can carry the 6. The 6 will be an easy replacement for my 4S.

So as I was looking over the 6 and 6+, a guy comes up next to me and starts looking over the 6 and 6+ also. He has a Motorola Android that he is using to compare, and what he is replacing. I asked him why he was replacing the Android, and his response was what I have heard over and over lately... he needs something that just works. That the novelty of the perception of "openness" and all the fiddling that can be done with Android just wasn't worth it. When he needs a phone that works, he can't accept anything less. So he is getting an iPhone. I know a couple other people that have recently done the same, and they were adamant Android fans.

And for a lesson in design... the iPhone progression regarding size had to happen the way it did. If the first iPhone was the size of the 6, which is also a popular and common Android size, or the 6+, it would have been massively ridiculed and rejected. The first iPhone was the same size as most other internet enabled cell phones, and evolved from there. Simply brilliant. Keen sense for the obvious. The Android world saw that bigger was where it was going to go and jumped on it, but didn't have the proper execution or content, hence the churning.

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i6 beautiful

Looks like I am going over to the dark side.. This phone is beautiful. Wonder how much my plan will go up though...

WOW! I saw the light!

diesel wrote:

And for a lesson in design... the iPhone progression regarding size had to happen the way it did. If the first iPhone was the size of the 6, which is also a popular and common Android size, or the 6+, it would have been massively ridiculed and rejected. The first iPhone was the same size as most other internet enabled cell phones, and evolved from there. Simply brilliant. Keen sense for the obvious. The Android world saw that bigger was where it was going to go and jumped on it, but didn't have the proper execution or content, hence the churning.

Now that you explained that way it all makes sense, can't believe how dumb I was.

Rushing to the Apple store first thing in the morning, I too want to go over to the "dark side" I just hope the "Genius" employees don't embarrass me by clapping and chanting when I walk in.

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Let's be careful out there

diesel wrote:

The 6+ is too big for my usage. No way I can put that in a pocket and carry it the way I do now or can carry the 6.

A shirt pocket should be okay if it fits, but for pants pockets, be careful about putting the 6 in a back pocket in particular. You know the hype about the thinness of the new iPhones? People are starting to complain about bent iPhone 6's. There were complaints about this when the 5 came out, but the 6 is more prone to it:
http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/mobile/flexible-display-new-ipho...

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This thread is living proof

This thread is living proof that now there are 3 things that will start a verbal war online:

1. Religion
2. Politics
3. "anything" versus Apple

Why is it that some people just can't accept that others have opinions different from their own? Heck, they may even like something different too.

Let's review:
First it was Apple vs Microsoft
Now it's Apple vs Android

Seems like it's always Apple vs somebody.

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Galaxy S series

ktrout wrote:

I think it's too early to believe any of the iphone 6 rumors. When it's closer to launch time we might see some leaked designs but right now it's all speculation. I have iphone 5 and didn't upgrade this year. If they make a bigger phone I'll have to see what it's like to use in one hand.

If you want a bigger screen just get HTC One or the Samsung Galaxy S4. They're pretty good competitors to the 5s.

I have the Galaxy S3 and my two sons have the Galaxy S4 and we love them. I am waiting for my 2 years to run out to get the Galaxy S5. Samsung makes a great phone.

Deja vu .....

KenSny wrote:

This thread is living proof that now there are 3 things that will start a verbal war online:

1. Religion
2. Politics
3. "anything" versus Apple

Why is it that some people just can't accept that others have opinions different from their own? Heck, they may even like something different too.

Let's review:
First it was Apple vs Microsoft
Now it's Apple vs Android

Seems like it's always Apple vs somebody.

This is almost amusing .... Blind dedication similar to that of the once great Blackberry. Apple is not the problem. It's the fanaticism that casual user exhibits regarding this phone seems isolated to apple products for the most part.

I recall when Blackberry claimed it was king also, they also convinced some to believe that "if it's over-priced, it must be better".

As general users become more aware of their needs versus "must-have" options, many understand that there are MANY great smartphones on the market that fulfill ALL of their own requirements at a fraction of the cost.

Buying anything solely based on a brand name is simply a cult or group-think at best. Based on this, all the credit in the world has to go to Apple for communicating this most effectively. But, as more and more people see what's really "behind the curtain", many end up realizing that many other efficient options exist for their needs.

For those who enjoy apple products ... well good for you. The few people I know who do use apple products do not really know why, other than "It's expensive, so it must be good!" rolleyes

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This thread getting too serious

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KenSny wrote:

This thread is living proof that now there are 3 things that will start a verbal war online:

1. Religion
2. Politics
3. "anything" versus Apple

Why is it that some people just can't accept that others have opinions different from their own? Heck, they may even like something different too.

Let's review:
First it was Apple vs Microsoft
Now it's Apple vs Android

Seems like it's always Apple vs somebody.

You forgot Ford vs Chevy. smile

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Familiarity Breeds Contempt

Apple is the 100,000 pound gorilla, potshots come with the success.

Anti-Apple fanaticism is a huge problem.

The problem is the constant potshots taken by the anti-Apple ankle-biters. I really don't see Apple fans going after Android, Apple fans simply discuss how they like their Apple products. The Android crowd is so defensive and relentlessly tries to cut down Apple products.

Just watch the TV ads... Apple presents its products and how good the products are.

Android, Surface, Blackberry, et al, ads are all trying to rip apart Apple products as inferior, etc. That right there shows that they are afraid of Apple. What does that tell you?

Kinda funny how the openness of Android and the "walled garden" of Apple isn't an issue. Actually, the very openness that Android touted as superior is being eschewed for all the problems it causes.

What you anti-Apple folks have to realize is that as you try to rip apart Apple, you are simply exposing the weaknesses of Android, Blackberry, Windows Phone, et al.

Now before you start quoting the 51% Android vs 45% Apple market share "data", understand that internet traffic and commerce revenue conducted on Apple devices blows away the Android commerce revenue.

How do you like those Apples?

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Still, Stupid Can't Be Fixed. Not Even by Apple

If people are going to carry something like the i6 or i6+ in their pockets, then this is going to happen.

Something the size of the i6+ can not be carried in a pocket of typical pants. The device is just too big.

When I was at an Apple store earlier this week, I was watching a guy testing that out: to see if the i6 and i6+ were compatible with how he normally carries a smartphone. He was trying it in all of his pockets. Unfortunately, he was not walking around, sitting, or doing other moves or positions that would normally happen. His style was that of wearing very large and oversized fitting garments.

There is no way a device manufacturer should take into account fashions like painted-on-jeans, and such. Let the owner take responsibility for the care of the device.

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RE: Still, Stupid Can't Be Fixed. Not Even by Apple

Are you confirming the universe is made up of Bozons and the two most common elements are Hydrogen and stupidity?

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