Looking for Garmin Cyclops Safety Camera Files

No experience with Cyclops but POI red light camera worked great. The nephew had it in his Garmin and it helped him to slow down at the intersection

Keep active on the site here and you won't have to pay again for access to the redlight and speed files. Once you've got your windmill or double-stars and keep at least one, you'll have access to download the files.

Just be aware the both the Cyclops free trial that may have come installed or downloaded can cause inaccurate information.

As mentioned, the free trial DOES NOT get updated after the 30 days. However, the file will still function forever unless you remove it from your Nuvi. Without updating, you're relying on outdated information and that's not a good idea.

The same holds true for the POI files provided here at the POI Factory. Keeping them updated is a good habit to get into. They get updated every Wednesday.

I personally don't update every week unless I see changes that will affect me locally or in any travel plans I may have.

To check weekly changes go here:
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/1352

From a Nuvi. I have a 3790LMT.

It should be in your POI folder usually with the name "USCanadaCyclopsSample.gpi", or perhaps something similar. Probably in the 250KB range.

You can copy it to your PC before deleting but I see no point in that if you have an outdated file.

I'm guessing but it seems to me that there would be a .gpi file with a name that you could associate with Cyclops.

I'm assuming that you have a complete BACKUP, and if you do, I would suggest that you first change the extension .gpi to, say, .gpixdout, or the like.

Then test to verify that the Garmin cameras are no longer working.

Give us feedback, please.

i have safety_camera_us_canada.gpi unlocked 27-08-2014

so this forum dont like links.

I did a test for one waypoint and is working
Cyclops said:

4km on motorways, 2 km outside urban areas and 300 meters in urban areas. Danger areas are: Fixed speed cameras, mobile speed zones, railway crossings, the road narrowed, bridges and tunnels, steep slopes, dangerous turn reported, schools and summer camps, hospitals

Simply delete all pois/extras. did it so many times when I had it for a year. I would have gotten it the next year if it had been $20, but they raised the price. I doubt anything is as accurate as Cyclops. but when one really thinks about it, through all this effort of true and false alerts, has anybody actually gotten a rlc or speed cam ticket, or been saved by an alert? In reality, a person who drives sensibly would never get a ticket anyway....I have not

I use both poi-factory's excellent files and Garmin's Cyclops. On the 2595 (with the latest firmware) not only do you get the "ding", but the message bar turns red and indicates what the alert is (i.e. red light or speed camera, incl. the speed limit).

I prefer poi-factory due to the frequency of update, but have the Cyclops file installed, just in case.

just going inside your gps with USB cable
ex:
your gps:\garmin\poi\safety_camera_us_canada.gpi

delete directory POI

I haven't found anything better than the POI Factory red light and speed camera database. I'll stick with it, but good luck with Cyclops.

i dont know if you have realy compared poi factory and cyclos, i think if you have same way point , there is not one that is better than the other!
so the banner warning with syclops is realy nice.

so say me (for the science) why is better

yaaaa ill try it

Since I had a traffic signal icon for POI, and the cyclops has a red square icon, my 2350 can indicate which is alerting. Probably 75%+ both. But there were many times there was only a traffic signal, i.e. POI. In those cases I would look, and see no RLC anywhere. My sneaking suspicion is it's easy to add to POI, but difficult to have people contact POI to remove. That is understandable, it's free.

There have been times that I felt that Cyclops could indicate/alert in the direction of the cam, when it wasn't 4-way, i.e. only alert if you were traveling the direction that the single or double cam was looking, and not alert for the 2 directions cams were not looking....

It's just not worth $25/yr. to me as I have never gotten a ticket. I guess I thought it was worth $20. They don't update every week, but maybe every other....hope that helps.

Not difficult at all to correct, contact Angela (Globe Turtle) to have the faulty location removed, in fact it’s encouraged to be as accurate as possible.
You can even edit the CSV file you downloaded and edit it in Microsoft Excel and remove that errant line. But still contact Angela so we all can benefit from your observation.

You say the Cyclops file is not updated every week, thanks for advising, that’s a negative in my opinion. Garmin states the data base is maintained DAILY.

According to Garmin’s statement which I once believed, here is what they claim. “Safety camera updates link your device to the Cyclops™ database, which is maintained daily and contains information about various safety cameras, such as fixed, average speed, mobile, variable, temporary/roadwork, red light and red light speed cameras.” http://www.garmin.com/us/extras/services/safetycamera

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You say the Cyclops file is not updated every week, thanks for advising, that’s a negative in my opinion. Garmin states the data base is maintained DAILY.

According to Garmin’s statement which I once believed, here is what they claim. “Safety camera updates link your device to the Cyclops™ database, which is maintained daily and contains information about various safety cameras, such as fixed, average speed, mobile, variable, temporary/roadwork, red light and red light speed cameras.” http://www.garmin.com/us/extras/services/safetycamera
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As I recall there was a date stamp on the Cyclops file, and there would be times I would check and nothing changed....I felt it was clearly a good file, just not worth $25 (if that's what it is today)...

I use Cyclops here in Winnipeg, and it identifies all the red light/speed camera locations properly. It reduces false alarms by only activating for cameras in the direction of travel. It does not activate in construction zones or high possibility areas for mobile speed camera sites.

It may update daily but Garmin does not send out updates too regularly. My last update was one day after I bought the subscription on Sept 5 2014.

To answer common questions on this and other forums, the Cyclops Safety Camera Subscription for the U.S. and Canada is NOT available for all models. It is generally not compatible with the newest devices (which leads me to think that perhaps Garmin is discontinuing it some day) and before one downloads a subscription, they should check the compatibility list.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/shop-by-accessories/digital-...

Thinking that the list was just not updated regularly, I checked it on my wife's 2557LMT and when I tried to install a free trial subscription, it said it is not compatible. It did work fine on my Nuvi 40LM, which is on the compatibility list.

look at the difference between a homemade poi and cycle technology

http://www.cyclops-uk.com/waypoint-technology.html

Yes, that graphic explains the differences quite well. Cyclops will not alert if the camera is facing a different direction.

As I am finding while creating a database of school zones in Winnipeg, it takes an immense amount of work to set up POIs so they only alert on the affected streets. While it is easier to set up the location of a camera and then add a proximity alert, you do get false alerts in other than the direction the camera is facing.

When I create a school zone speed alert, I need to set up a POI on each street that is affected, and NOT to use the physical location of the school or its street address. Some schools can have as many as three or even four streets that are affected, and each one must be added manually. Each POI has it's own proximity distance, and in Winnipeg, that can vary from street to street. Some are as short as 200 meters from end to end of the zone. Others are as long as 500 meters. Once the gpx file is created, then it must be uploaded as containing proximity points, and the speed alert set at the appropriate speed for that jurisdiction. (In Winnipeg, that's 30 km/hour.)

So that's for only one municipality, with 171 elementary schools, using about 450 individual points-of-interest.

It is for this reason I can respect the amount of work that goes into the Cyclops database. Yes, it costs more than a user-supported database (I use both) but it was worth it to me.

To me, a safety camera alert system lets me be heads-up in a school zone watching for kids, instead of looking at my watch, reading a lengthy road sign and trying to figure out if it is 07:00 to 17:30 hours, Monday to Friday, September to June.

Yes I guess this is very vomplex, I have much study to do, there is a tutorial here, because just use poi loader, Garmin, I n, not have lot of options, I imagine that done it otherwise?

FYI, there have been two more Cyclops updates in the past three weeks. It is beginning to look like it is updated about once a week.

thanks, so i dont know why the new nuvi 2014 (and 2013?) is not compatible !

I don't know why the newer models are not compatible. Garmin often drops features in new models. It looks like Cyclops is updated every week or more, so there is no indication it is being discontinued.

I actually like the Cyclops files better than the POI Factory. I have tried both, side by side on two different units. Cyclops only alerts in the direction you travel and doesn't alert too soon, which minimizes false alarms.

For future use, here are the compatible units as provided by Garmin:

nüvi® 1200

nüvi® 1250

nüvi® 1260T

nüvi® 1300

nüvi® 1300T

nüvi® 1350

nüvi® 1350LMT

nüvi® 1350T

nüvi® 1390T

nüvi® 1450

nüvi® 1450T

nüvi® 1490T

nüvi® 200

nüvi® 200W

nüvi® 205

nüvi® 205W

nüvi® 215T

nüvi® 2250

nüvi® 2350

nüvi® 2360LT

nüvi® 2455LM

nüvi® 2455LMT

nüvi® 2455LT

nüvi® 2460LT

nüvi® 2475LT

nüvi® 2495LMT

nüvi® 250

nüvi® 250W

nüvi® 255

nüvi® 2555LMT

nüvi® 2555LT

nüvi® 255W

nüvi® 2595LMT

nüvi® 260

nüvi® 260W

nüvi® 265T

nüvi® 265W

nüvi® 265WT

nüvi® 270

nüvi® 275T

nüvi® 285WT

nüvi® 30

nüvi® 3450

nüvi® 3450LM

nüvi® 3490LMT

nüvi® 350

nüvi® 3550LM

nüvi® 3587LMT

nüvi® 3590LMT

nüvi® 360

nüvi® 370

nüvi® 3750

nüvi® 3760T

nüvi® 3790LMT

nüvi® 3790T

nüvi® 40

nüvi® 40LM

nüvi® 465LMT

nüvi® 465T

nüvi® 50

nüvi® 500

nüvi® 5000

nüvi® 50LM

nüvi® 550

nüvi® 600

nüvi® 610

nüvi® 650

nüvi® 660

nüvi® 670

nüvi® 680

nüvi® 750

nüvi® 755T

nüvi® 760

nüvi® 765T

nüvi® 770

nüvi® 775T

nüvi® 780

nüvi® 785T

nüvi® 850

nüvi® 855

nüvi® 880

nüvi® 885T

StreetPilot® c510

StreetPilot® c530

StreetPilot® c550

StreetPilot® c580

zūmo® 220

zūmo® 350LM

zūmo® 390LM

zūmo® 450

zūmo® 550

zūmo® 590LM

zūmo® 660

zūmo® 660LM

zūmo® 665

zūmo® 665LM

question is do you want to pay...I did when it was $20, did not when they raised it to $25.

I have never gotten a ticket anyway...

Even in a city with one of the highest portion of red light/speed cameras to population in North America, I also have never gotten a ticket. But there are two reasons why I want the warnings, just as there is a reason why I am putting in hundreds of hours of work to create an accurate school zone file for my city.

#1 - Driving with the warnings enabled has shown me the value of being able to drive heads-up while watching for kids, and not driving with your head down every few seconds to make sure you slowed from 50 to 30 in a school zone.

Knowing there is a red light camera ahead also warns me that drivers ahead of me who don't understand how they work may suddenly slam on their brakes.

Statistics have shown that red light cameras in my city don't accomplish anything. Fewer people run red lights, resulting in fewer side collisions (but only in the intersections that have them) but a dramatic increase in rear-end collisions. If I had my way, there would be a red light camera at every intersection in the city.

But the problem is not just red light runners. The problem is that every red light camera also has a speed camera in it too. This brings me to reason #2.

#2 - The city has little concern for traffic safety. The speed cameras, mobile radar sites and school zone radar sites are there for one reason and one reason only - to increase revenue for the city. The private company that runs the program and takes a cut of the profits, has a vested interest in increasing the fines. This is why you see the mobile photo radar units set up in a school zone at 11:30 at night on a Sunday in July. They do it because they can.

Red light/speed cameras are set up almost exclusively on streets where the speed limit is set artificially too low and is far below the natural (85th percentile) flow of traffic, or where the limit drops from 60 to 50 for a few blocks then back up to 60, just to increase photo radar revenue.

While it sounds all warm and fuzzy to set up school zones to slow traffic from 50 to 30 km/h, no one can remember that last time a kid was hit by a car near a school. It is designed exclusively for revenue purposes. Drivers are now going through these zones with their head down, checking the date, time and their speedometer and trying to read a long sign that says "Speed limit 30. 07:30 to 17:30 Monday to Friday. September to June" instead of keeping their head up watching for kids.

I would MUCH rather have a driver watching for kids on my street than looking at their speedometer every few seconds. THIS is why I believe in these warnings and why I am willing to pay for Cyclops. Fewer false alarms is worth it to me.

Which, by the way, is the reason why it is taking me hundreds of hours to create a school zone file that I am then giving away for free to folks here at the factory. I want alerts to only sound on the streets where a zone is in effect, and only sound as you approach the actual zone itself, not blocks in advance. Here in this city, there are 170 elementary schools where zones are in effect and most of them have two and even three streets affected. Every zone is different, and I need to make a custom proximity distance for every zone on every street, based on the actual legal boundaries of the zone itself.

They do it for the revenue; I do it to keep drivers looking up instead of burying their heads in their dashboards.

actualy, i never pay for update, ecach guy have one trick.....

so one here said for nuvi 3597 question about compatibility cyclos:
That is what you'd get if it came pre-installed on a newly-purchased nuvi...

is not true!