Windshield mount falling off

 

I have a Nuvi 1680, and the mount suction cup is falling off the windshield every 2 days or so.

Garmin sent me another one when I complained about this, I installed it and a couple months later it's doing the same as the old one.

I contrast this to my Magellan suction cup which was stuck on the windshield for years without falling off. It was about half inch bigger. Not sure if that's the reason.

Yeah, I have cleaned it, I have tried everything.

This is just ridiculous.

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it would help

Steevo wrote:

I have a Nuvi 1680, and the mount suction cup is falling off the windshield every 2 days or so.

It would help if you told a little about your expectations. Do you put the mount on the windshield and expect it to stay until the cows come home or when world ends? Every mechanical device I've ever worked with requires something called maintenance. In the event of a suction device, that often means reestablishing the grip every so often. Just as your car needs regular maintenance, so does the suction mount.

From your complaints it sounds as if you wanted the wagon where every part was made to last 100 years. The day after the century turned everything broke at once and the owner was upset that it required a total replacement.

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Lol

Lol

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Ditto

Ditto

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Not my first rodeo.

I bought a mount at the swapmeet Saturday that has a larger suction cup, like the one my old Magellan had. I haven't tried it yet but it has the same kind of slide in button thing the Garmin mount has.

I paid $5 for it, brand new. The guy had a whole box of them.

As I said originally, this ain't my first rodeo, I have had several GPS units with windshield mounts, the only one that fell off the windshield often is the current small cup Garmin one. The Magellan one, never.

Course that was when Magellan was Magellan in San Dimas, CA. Now Magellan is actually Chinese manufacturer Mitac Digital and who knows how their stuff is today. A buddy of mine is a big fan of Magellan units. I have had several of them myself.

Is the window absolutely

Is the window absolutely clear where you are placing the suction cup? If there is writing or tinting "bumps" it won't hold.

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The issue in this topic is trying to find a way to keep the windshield mount from releasing prematurely. Some people do not have the option of using a bean bag mount, either because of the shape of their dash or otherwise, yet the "solution" supplied here almost always reverts to ditching the windshield mount and getting a bean bag mount at additional cost.

Bottom line is that the windshield mount that Garmin supplies (and has been supplying for many, many years now) with their GPS units is not reliable. If a mount is supplied with a GPS unit, it should be reliable and not release without warning, causing the GPS to go tumbling to who-knows-where and possibly damaging the GPS in the process. Magellan can accomplish this, 3rd party manufacturers can accomplish this...both use the clear silicone type cups and they work as they should.

Garmin needs to re-engineer their windshield mount if it cannot hold their GPS units reliably. The end-user should not have to go out and purchase something else that will do the job at an additional cost. If the windshield mount is not reliable, it's my feeling that it should not even be included in the package if the GPS will be damaged by it's inability to hold the GPS reliably and the ultimate solution is to "buy a bean bag mount" (if the GPS even survived the fall).

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New Mount

The new Garmin mount that came with my 2595LMT with MD traffic has not fallen in more than a month with a truck parked outside all the time. It seems to be much better than earlier mounts I had with older units.

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Suction Cup Diameter? Cigarette Lighter Mount?

jonwrong wrote:

The new Garmin mount that came with my 2595LMT with MD traffic has not fallen in more than a month with a truck parked outside all the time. It seems to be much better than earlier mounts I had with older units.

Isn't the Windshield Mount for the 2595LMT & 2555LMT a larger suction cup diameter than the other Garmin mounts? Do you know if the ball diameter (for swiveling the GPS) is larger for the 2595LMT & 2555LMT mounts, or the same diameter as the other Garmin mounts?

On a somewhat different topic - has anyone used the Powered Car Mount for Garmin Nuvi that plugs into a cigarette lighter? This method would provide a means of mounting the device and powering the device all-in-one. Another advantage would be that the GPS is more out-of-site and less likely to be stolen. But, a disadvantage may be that it is not in-line with your driving vision...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Powered-Car-Mount-for-Garmin-Nuvi-25...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Powered-Car-Mount-for-Garmin-Nuvi-75...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Powered-Car-Mount-for-Garmin-Nuvi-13...

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Koot

Don't know if the cup diameter is bigger, I'm too lazy to go out and check, but my Nuvi 760 is hanging on the 2555 mount right now. the actual mount is the same for both.

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Well..........

Phranc - Well, that means that [at least] the 760 and the 2555 use the same swivel ball diameter anyway. Maybe all the GPSs use the same swivel ball size. Dunno.

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New garmin suction cup mount?

koot wrote:
jonwrong wrote:

The new Garmin mount that came with my 2595LMT with MD traffic has not fallen in more than a month with a truck parked outside all the time. It seems to be much better than earlier mounts I had with older units.

Isn't the Windshield Mount for the 2595LMT & 2555LMT a larger suction cup diameter than the other Garmin mounts? Do you know if the ball diameter (for swiveling the GPS) is larger for the 2595LMT & 2555LMT mounts, or the same diameter as the other Garmin mounts?

I gotta go to a store and look at some later Garmin models, and see if they finally fixed the suction cup and it fits. If so I am gonna try to get Garmin to send me one.

FWIW, I had a previous GPS unit screen damaged by falling. It had a 2" black circle. I think the mount falling off is a pretty serious problem for Garmin.

My Solution....

1) Clean the windshield with rubbing alcohol;
2) Add a little saliva to the suction cup.

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I'm really surprised that someone here hasn't...

With all the complaints I'm hearing I'm really surprised that someone here hasn't mentioned the aftermarket over-sized suction cup/brackets for Garmin GPSs that are offered. So many of you are experiencing the Garmin OEM 2" diameter (I believe is the OEM size) suction cup failing to hold on the windshield for very long - it would make sense (at least to me) that someone here might have tried one of the aftermarket heavy-duty, commercial 3+" suction cup mounts/brackets and reported back whether it holds, or not. I do not recall anyone ever even mentioning all the aftermarket over-sized suction cup mounts/brackets!

There seems to be a lot of over-sized heavy-duty, commercial 3.2" - 3.4" suction cup mounts/brackets designed for Garmin GPS units offered on eBay and elsewhere on the Internet. For example:

I found a couple of over-sized suction cup/bracket mounts for specific Garmin models on eBay, but they are limited to certain models.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suction-Cup-Vehicle-Mount-Holder-for...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suction-Cup-Vehicle-Mount-Holder-for...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suction-Cup-Windshield-Mount-Holder-...

Here is a RAM Heavy Duty aftermarket 3.25" diameter suction cup mount/bracket designed for Garmin nuvi 2595LM 2595LMT 2595LT models.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RAM-Metal-Suction-Cup-Car-Mount-for-...

I also found this interesting mount - PanaVise 809-G Garmin Window Mount with a 3.4" diameter suction pad designed with a Garmin mounting ball for Garmin GPSs. This mount is recommended for marine and off-road use, so it should hold much better and longer than the smaller 2" diameter OEM suction cup.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Panavise-Window-Mount-With-Adapter-F...

http://www.panavise.com/index.html?pageID=1&page=full&--eqsk...

And there are plenty more over-size, heavy-duty, commercial suction cup bracket/mounts for Garmin GPSs available if anyone cares to research and find them...

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PanaVise 809-G windshield mount with 3.4" diameter suction cup

This PanaVise 809-G windshield mount for Garmin GPSs with a 3.4" diameter suction cup (designed for Marine use) looks very interesting...and like it should hold!

http://www.firstchoicemarine.com/images/product/large/3-4604...

Any thoughts?

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Thanks for the info for some valid suction mount alternatives, koot!

Here's the Amazon link:
http://www.amazon.com/PanaVise-809-G-Window-Adapter-Garmin/d...

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Videos Using PanaVise 809-G 3.4" Suction Cup Windshield Mount

DorkusNimrod wrote:

Thanks for the info for some valid suction mount alternatives, koot!

Here's the Amazon link:
http://www.amazon.com/PanaVise-809-G-Window-Adapter-Garmin/dp/B004QYMDFQ

PanaVise 809-G 3.4" Suction Cup Diameter Windshield Mount videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An598YeViTI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfs-eo-eXKw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx70DV-3hNw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1_Rl71VTtw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RArftnGL6DE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxoIs7zGMcI

(See heavy camera setup @ 8:47 of video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvWtVCr_sk

(See heavy camera setup @ 1:35 of video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gg3v8ZavJo

(At Laguana Seca Race Track)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgJVs6BS3dA

It looks like this sucker (pun intended) will hold! Install the PanaVise 809-G and you shouldn't be complaining about your Garmin GPS falling off the windshield anymore!

PS - Why did it take 4 pages of bitching and complaining before someone posted information about a larger, commercial, suction cup windshield mount? Once that happened - everything went silent. Huh? Huh? I know, I know - someone will say that the complaints are at Garmin for not making a better mount...but the complaints are not solving the problem...and no one had mentioned any aftermarket windshield mounts. I was always told that if you are going to complain about a problem it is best to have a solution for the problem if at all possible. It seems to me that no one wanted to spend any time researching to find a solution. Oh well..........

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Bean bag mount beats the heck out of the suction mount

rthibodaux wrote:

Going to own a GPS that cost over a $100, Invest in a GPS bean bag mount for around $25. Problem solve. As long as you will use the suction mount you will have the problem. Garmin is in the business of providing a product to the public.

My wife had the suction mount on her windshield and when we went to pull it off, it stuck to the windshield and left some of the rubber on it. We used WD40 to get it off.

I now have the bean bag mount in my car. It's just so much easier to use and you don't have the suction mount there all the time in your field of vision when you are driving. Plus, not all states allow the suction mount on the window, The bean bag mount works very well and is 100% legal and it's more portable for using in a different car.

Vent clips are really cheap

I had a vent clip for my MP3 player and I ended up losing some small bits off of it when I went to take it off. Not worth it. The bean bag mount is so much better and it's more portable.

melted rubber

Because more then likely, your rubber on the suction cup has melted onto the windshield.

Illegal in some states

I know this is about the suction mount, but what do you do if all you have is the suction mount and you drive into a state that says the suction mount is illegal? You have to then take off the suction mount and what do you do to see the GPS then? A different type of mount that does not go on the windshield is legal in all states of the USA.

It's not about the GPS getting damaged when it falls off the windshield. What about when you are driving, using the GPS and it falls off? You then have to find a place to pull over and reattach it. This can be a pain and what if you cannot reattach it as you cannot pull over? What about if taking the time to sort out the mount would make you late?

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I recommend a dashboard mount. I've never had a problem with it.

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I am not too happy with mine

I am not too happy with mine suction cup for 3597. It often falls. I may have to look into third party mounts. I can not even use bean bag because my Camry 2008 dash is not right for it.

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rookie8155 wrote:

I can not even use bean bag because my Camry 2008 dash is not right for it.

Well, going by the number of comments here to "use a bean bag" in liew of the suction mount, looks like you'll have to get a new dash or better yet, a new car so you -can- use the bean bag. mrgreen

Or a third party mount as recommended and linked to by koot would be your best bet.

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I have a dash mount

I am the OP.

FWIW I have a dash mount, it slides around on my dash. I don't find it satisfactory at all.

As to cleaning and saliva, yea, of course I have done all the obvious. It falls off on hot days, I imagine that is the main problem.

It was 85 degrees outside today. The mount didn't happen to fall off today.

@Steevo...

Steevo...

Have a look at the following link below (I am SergZak at that forum) for an idea of what I did to mount my nuvi 350 (the link is way back from 2006) because a beanbag simply would not work on my 1994 Mustang GT's curvy, slopey dash. I'm still using the same mounting system in the same car but my GPS units have gone through many model changes over the years.

It may give you an idea of what can be done using the dash disc along with the suction cup mount. It still releases periodically in very hot weather though (black disc with the black cup gets REALLY hot) but I've gotten into the habit of releasing, then remounting the cup every couple of weeks in the SoCal summers and re-doing my liquid dish soap film cup treatment every couple of months.

Third-party suction cup mount will likely be much easier though...but I thought I'd at least mention what I ended up doing.

http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=46749&...

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ignore them

DorkusNimrod wrote:
rookie8155 wrote:

I can not even use bean bag because my Camry 2008 dash is not right for it.

Well, going by the number of comments here to "use a bean bag" in liew of the suction mount, looks like......

I don't put much faith in the people obsessed with bean bags. They seem to come out in great numbers and insist strongly that bean bags are the greatest thing since sliced bread, and the only type of mount that a non-heathen would ever use; even when the question isn't a request for a type of mount recommendation, but people are just trying to discuss intelligently the issues with some other type of mount.

Nothing in the above should be construed as a suggestion that you mount your GPS receiver using sliced bread.

No sliced bread here. Using

No sliced bread here. Using a vent mount in both cars.
Just put it on and it stays forever until you sell the car. grin

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dontcha think?

Steevo wrote:

I am the OP.

FWIW I have a dash mount, it slides around on my dash. I don't find it satisfactory at all.

As to cleaning and saliva, yea, of course I have done all the obvious. It falls off on hot days, I imagine that is the main problem.

It was 85 degrees outside today. The mount didn't happen to fall off today.

I think the actual subject matter of this thread is to figure out how to get a windshield mount to stay on the windshield, regardless whether the windshield suction cup is the OEM model or an aftermarket windshield mount.

I really do not think it has been helpful to anyone with this problem (especially for 'Steevo' - the Original Poster) for people to recommend a bean-bag dash mount or a vent mount. If they wanted to mount their GPS on a bean-bag or vent - they would have already been doing that...dontcha think?

I believe what would be most helpful for the people with this problem is to recommend 'other' windshield mounts (be it Garmin or aftermarket) or modifications to the OEM mount to make it better.

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Check out the RAM Universal X-Grip Locking Suction Cup Mount

Check out the RAM Universal X-Grip Locking Suction Cup Mount (at 50 seconds):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfsIA2jZXQI

And: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS8EAgE9pzU

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cool

koot wrote:

Check out the RAM Universal X-Grip Locking Suction Cup Mount (at 50 seconds):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfsIA2jZXQI

And: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS8EAgE9pzU

Any idea how well the one in the first video holds a device in place on bumpy terrain?

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Hello brother

Hello brother

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Would like to see some people try these aftermarket mounts

soberbyker wrote:
koot wrote:

Check out the RAM Universal X-Grip Locking Suction Cup Mount (at 50 seconds):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfsIA2jZXQI

And: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS8EAgE9pzU

Any idea how well the one in the first video holds a device in place on bumpy terrain?

I would like to see some people here that are having problems with their Garmin windshield mounts try these aftermarket mounts and report their findings.

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Workarounds, and who caused the problem.

As to workarounds, I am not looking for a workaround.

In my OP I identified the problem, whom caused it (Garmin) and what the shortcoming is with the Garmin mount. And I think Garmin should be the one to fix it. I just don't think Garmin should get a pass on selling a defective product. They should *have* to fix it.

It makes no sense at all making a windshield mount that falls off the windshield a couple times a month, when clearly it could be fixed by a new plastic formulation, a larger size suction cup, lots of things like that would help.

As I said I have a dash mount on my dash right now, with a Serius radio on it. I turn left it goes right slamming against the right side of the windshield. Not a good solution at all. Quite unsatisfactory.

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Try cleaning the suction cup with some denatured alcohol. Also clean the windshield well. I've never had a problem with Garmin's suction cup if I did both of these.

You may be interested in a friction mount, I find these less annoying than glass mounts.

Bean Bag

My Wife has a company car and we cant make any alterations to the vehicle she couldn't reach the gps with it stuck to the windshield so we bought a Garmin Bean Bag one to sit on top of the dash she has had no problems with it! no suction cup stays on the dash over the bumpiest roads! and can be transferred to the next vehicle and no alterations required.

why complain to a group of users?

Steevo wrote:

As to workarounds, I am not looking for a workaround.

In my OP I identified the problem, whom caused it (Garmin) and what the shortcoming is with the Garmin mount. And I think Garmin should be the one to fix it. I just don't think Garmin should get a pass on selling a defective product. They should *have* to fix it.

This being the litiginous society it is, rather than complain to a group of users that can't fix the problem hire a lawyer and file a class action suit.

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Trouble keeping it up and

Trouble keeping it up and premature release sounds like an old age problem?

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Amazing!!!!!!!

And the complaining continues with no one willing to (1) try an aftermarket windshield mount to correct the problem at their own expense...or (2) willing to spend their time and probably their own money to retain an attorney that will write a scathing and demanding letter to Garmin with the hint that a class-action lawsuit may be brought in hopes that Garmin will finally do something to take care of providing an inferior product. Ummm, this is a very interesting and extremely complicated scenario for an owner to be confronted with...

Oh! Have I ever mentioned that my OEM Garmin mount NEVER falls off my windshield? My Garmin mount only comes off twice a year (every six months) when I take it off on purpose to clean the windshield (using ONLY pure water and 100% soft cotton towels). Seriously!!! And my OEM Garmin mount (suction cup) must deal with 105+ degree outside temperatures (and God only knows how high it gets inside the car) during Dallas summers with the car parked in full sun for many hours when I play golf, which is often!

I wonder why my OEM Garmin mount never falls off, and why so many people complain about theirs falling off? But even more troubling for me to understand is - why doesn't someone that has this problem spend a few bucks and buy an aftermarket windshield mount that works for them... Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!

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My unsolicited testimonial promoting bean bags fell on many deaf ears.

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Why?

Steevo wrote:

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I just don't think Garmin should get a pass on selling a defective product. They should *have* to fix it.

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Just why should they fix it?

Did they make any claim as to how long the mount would work?

IMHO

spokybob wrote:

My unsolicited testimonial promoting bean bags fell on many deaf ears.

As did mine about a vent mount. Each to their own, I guess.

One thing I did notice with the suction mount was that if the window area I put the mount was not perfectly flat it fell off in a day or so. The flatter the mount area the longer it stayed on. BUT I soon went to a more permanent mount.

I'm afraid we'd all be too old to drive a car by the time a class action lawsuit against Garmin for something this trivial would ever be settled.

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Did not fall on deaf ears.

KenSny wrote:
spokybob wrote:

My unsolicited testimonial promoting bean bags fell on many deaf ears.

As did mine about a vent mount. Each to their own, I guess.

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Both of your comments were of value to others because your agenda was to be helpful.

What if you could glue a

What if you could glue a suction cup type mount to the windshield like a rear view mirror. My bean bag always moves around on brick roads, and the suction cup is always falling off. So annoying.

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Shoddy products are not excusable by low prices.

jgermann wrote:
Steevo wrote:

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I just don't think Garmin should get a pass on selling a defective product. They should *have* to fix it.

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Just why should they fix it?

Did they make any claim as to how long the mount would work?

I don't think anyone should be able to sell a mount made to attach to a windshield that falls off unexpectedly.

Admittedly standalone GPS units are hitting the bottom on price lately, it seems unlikely Garmin will be in the same business in a few years. So as cheap as they are getting I think people's expectations are naturally getting lower. I paid several hundred dollars for GPS units in the past. Fortunately that is just about unnecessary anymore.

But shoddy products are not excusable by low prices.

I have had GPS screens get banged and develop a quarter size black circle. It's really not expected that they should fall on their own.

shoddy products

Steevo wrote:

But shoddy products are not excusable by low prices.

Many times top of the line products are shoddy as well.

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simple safe fix

Steevo wrote:

...I have had GPS screens get banged and develop a quarter size black circle.....

A tip that I picked up from another user here and has served me well: Mount the suction cup near the rear view mirror. It is easier to see and closer for viewing and operation than if mounted low on a sloping windshield, and doesn't obstruct the view of anything except the sky. Then wrap the power cord around the mirror mount before going down to the lighter. If/when the suction cup does release the GPS will only safely fall a couple of inches. It will not hit anything, will not jam under the break peddle or some other dangerous location. This is safer for the GPS and everyone driving around you.

Alternate to buying new suction cup mount

I noticed a few threads talking about similar topics so I'll repeat my recommendation here. I've had two mounts go bad for my Garmin gps. Rather than buy a third I just stuck it to the windshield with the a kit called Stickysuc. It's been on for about two months now without any problems. You can get the kit at Amazon. I would recommend using the largest bonding barrier so you have more than 1/4" exposed past the suction cup. Clean the glass really good before you install. Let us know if anyone else has any experience with the Stickysuc suction cup repair kit.

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Mount falling off the windshield again.

The mount Garmin sent me at no charge lasted about a year. I just asked them for another one, hoping they have changed their plastic formulation to resolve this problem.

I got back a goofy message from Garmin support, asking me if I cleaned it, wet the suction cup before installation.

Stupid stuff that of course I have done!

I told the guy it's not my first rodeo. Their mounts are not very good and they could improve them, and I just can't wait to see if they finally have.

And that I am going to need a replacement sent out. I have never paid for one yet.

We'll see what they say.

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If Garmin would switch to the clear silicone cups, they'd last alot longer and hold much better...I've never had a clear silicone cup ever release when stuck to my windshield. I have a Valentine One Radar Locator that uses the clear silicone cups (two small cups) on it's mount and after years of being attached to my windshield, it has never released. If I manually release it (which I have done many times), if sticks back the same way as it previously was. In fact, I still have the backup cups that shipped with the V1 and have never used them.

Garmin's cups are vastly inferior IMO due to the following:

1. The cup is too rigid and doesn't flex well & conform to irregular surfaces

2. The cup's adhering surface is too rigid as well and any scratch or imperfection causes a bad seal

3. The cup is black which absorbs heat...LOTS of heat in a hot car. When the cup and the air under it (impossible to get ALL the air out) gets hot, the air expands and will cause the cup to be more likely to release, much more frequently in the summer.

I'm not an engineer but the issues I mentioned above (again, they are my opinion only) are quite obvious and pretty logical reasons. You'd assume that Garmin's engineers should be able to figure out these issues. But this is Garmin...they don't do well when it comes to change. They stuck to their proprietary memory card format (Garmin Data Cards) for years and years before moving to SD as well and were using USB 1.1 speeds when the much faster 2.0 speeds were already available for many years.

Garmin's suction cups are well due for an update and re-engineering and have been for many many years now.

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Makes sense.

That makes sense to me DorkusNimrod. Does anyone make a windshield mount with the standard Garmin "ball" that uses a clear silicone suction cup? All the third party mounts I have seen seem to use the black suction cup. It seems like there would be a good market for a better mount.

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