Taking my 2460 to the midwest and looking for help :-)

 

We are getting ready for a trip to Kansas and Missouri, we're flying, but will be driving all around once we are there.

Bringing my nuvi 2460 and would love to hear any suggestions you have as far as using it with Mapsource or Basecamp for planning purposes.

Is routing even possible on my 2460?

Thanks!!!

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yes

Myemerald wrote:

Is routing even possible on my 2460?

Thanks!!!

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-the-road/automotive/previ...

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Box Car...haha thanks for

Box Car...haha thanks for the answer. Any ideas on how I use the routing? I downloaded BaseCamp and played with it last night, made a route, but can't figure out to use it on my 2460. Nevermind! I just discovered trip planner!!! woo hoo!

I also downloaded free map tiles from ... I can't remember where....but found it here on poi factory. Can't figure out what to do with them either confused :? :-?

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more info please

Myemerald wrote:

I also downloaded free map tiles from ... I can't remember where....but found it here on poi factory. Can't figure out what to do with them either confused :? :-?

What "free map tiles"? Are you speaking of POI or locations for Points of Interest? If this is what you are asking, then there is a great set of tutorials under the blue LEARN tab that will step you through downloading and loading files so they can be listed as "Extras."

As to routing, it really isn't that necessary unless you are planning on making several stops and you want to reach them in a certain order. The easiest way to implement "routing" is to tell the unit the address you want and then go. It will build a route on the fly that will get you to the destination.

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Routing

Box Car wrote:

As to routing, it really isn't that necessary unless you are planning on making several stops and you want to reach them in a certain order. The easiest way to implement "routing" is to tell the unit the address you want and then go. It will build a route on the fly that will get you to the destination.

Well I do not trust Garmins routing and I want to have the choice of how to get there.

Example 1 from Detroit to Laredo,TX, Garmin wants to route me via Chicago! I want to go via Nashville and then west!

Example 2 and what a frigging disaster. Leaving friends in Wichita, KS I wanted to get to Laredo now. I am on I-35 S and the GPS had me bypassing Oklahoma City well way to the west and go via Amarillo to Laredo. Fortunately I realized just south of Oklahoma City what was happening and found a reasonably quick way back to I-35 south which I should have stayed on in the first place.

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Route from Detroit to Laredo

I asked my Nuvi 50LM to route that trip both ways. Each time it went thru Nashville 1625 miles no Chicago. From Wichita to Laredo 778 miles mostly on I-35. No ferries, car pool lanes, unpaved roads. My unit sent me the way you wanted to go each time. I have no answers why yours did not.

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Detroit To Laredo via Nashville

mldorsey wrote:

I asked my Nuvi 50LM to route that trip both ways. Each time it went thru Nashville 1625 miles no Chicago. From Wichita to Laredo 778 miles mostly on I-35. No ferries, car pool lanes, unpaved roads. My unit sent me the way you wanted to go each time. I have no answers why yours did not.

My 1450 routes this way also.

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you need to check your avoidances

Melaqueman wrote:
Box Car wrote:

As to routing, it really isn't that necessary unless you are planning on making several stops and you want to reach them in a certain order. The easiest way to implement "routing" is to tell the unit the address you want and then go. It will build a route on the fly that will get you to the destination.

Well I do not trust Garmins routing and I want to have the choice of how to get there.

Example 1 from Detroit to Laredo,TX, Garmin wants to route me via Chicago! I want to go via Nashville and then west!

Example 2 and what a frigging disaster. Leaving friends in Wichita, KS I wanted to get to Laredo now. I am on I-35 S and the GPS had me bypassing Oklahoma City well way to the west and go via Amarillo to Laredo. Fortunately I realized just south of Oklahoma City what was happening and found a reasonably quick way back to I-35 south which I should have stayed on in the first place.

As you are the only one having this issue, it's probably the settings you put in your unit. Also, notice I didn't say anything about the routing other than it would get you from point a to b.

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Same

spokybob wrote:
mldorsey wrote:

I asked my Nuvi 50LM to route that trip both ways. Each time it went thru Nashville 1625 miles no Chicago. From Wichita to Laredo 778 miles mostly on I-35. No ferries, car pool lanes, unpaved roads. My unit sent me the way you wanted to go each time. I have no answers why yours did not.

My 1450 routes this way also.

Same on my 760, 2460, 3970 and 3597 with only Unpaved Roads set as Avoidances. Diffently sounds like an Avoidance issue OR the unit needs a hard reset as it's brain is a bit scrambled. smile

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Settings

Box Car wrote:

As you are the only one having this issue, it's probably the settings you put in your unit. Also, notice I didn't say anything about the routing other than it would get you from point a to b.

Settings are in USA and Canada
Avoid toll roads, ferries, unpaved roads etc
Fastest route

Mexico
Fastest route
Toll roads
Avoid ferries and unpaved roads

And I religiously change the settings once I cross the USA-Mexico border.

BTW, last April driving from Laredo to New Orleans, the damn Garmin also had me exit the Interstate to go through a town only to rejoin the Interstate at the other end of town After that happened the first time I ignored the next 4 times.

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Routing

I have more problems with openstreetmaps than with the Garmin map. Sometimes it seems to want to put you on the right side of the street, so runs you all over.

I check my routes ahead of time and put in via points until I get the route I like.

I don't usually put in the whole route, anyway, just several hours to a break.

Toll roads to Laredo

Using no toll roads my Nuvi 50LM now routes me off I-35 from Wichita thru Arkansas City then back to I-35 at the Oklahoma line. Very interesting. Is there a toll between Wichita and OK city?

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strange

Just created a route in both BaseCamp and Mapsource from I-75 just off the Ambassador Bridge to just above to border on I-35 in Laredo. The route goes south through Toledo, Cincinnati, Evansville, Nashville, Memphis, Little Rock to Dallas and then south on I-35.

The avoidances I used pretty much mirrored yours, toll roads and ferries being the big two. At this point, I can only guess you may have a faulty map. If I remember correctly, you get a DVD as you state you don't have a fast Internet connection. I would suggest you find some place to reload the map set. We do know that Garmin pulled back some of the maps because of errors and the one you have may be one of the bad ones. Having a faulty mapset could very well be the cause of all your problems no one else can duplicate.

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What about cloning

Box Car wrote:

... as you state you don't have a fast Internet connection. I would suggest you find some place to reload the map set. We do know that Garmin pulled back some of the maps because of errors and the one you have may be one of the bad ones. Having a faulty mapset could very well be the cause of all your problems no one else can duplicate.

Assuming you have some friend with a fast connection, how about the cloning method
http://www.poi-factory.com/node/39231

Toll

mldorsey wrote:

Using no toll roads my Nuvi 50LM now routes me off I-35 from Wichita thru Arkansas City then back to I-35 at the Oklahoma line. Very interesting. Is there a toll between Wichita and OK city?

Yes there is a short stretch south of Wichita to the OK stateline for about $ 1.50 which I knew about and took. It is a continuation of the toll road from Kansas City to Wichita.

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trip

MapSource and Streets and Trips both route the same way, through Nashville. I use MapSource quite often for trips, especially if I want to customize it a little.

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Which free map tiles...

grzesja wrote:

There are two links to places where you can get legal, free maps for Garmin GPS. They are routable, so can be used to drive when on vacations. Coverage can differ sometimes, as often there are non commercial projects created by users.

Links:
1. http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/
2. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Downloa...

Box Car these are the map tiles I am talking about. I want to use routing for one particular portion of our trip smile

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That

Melaqueman wrote:
mldorsey wrote:

Using no toll roads my Nuvi 50LM now routes me off I-35 from Wichita thru Arkansas City then back to I-35 at the Oklahoma line. Very interesting. Is there a toll between Wichita and OK city?

Yes there is a short stretch south of Wichita to the OK stateline for about $ 1.50 which I knew about and took. It is a continuation of the toll road from Kansas City to Wichita.

Toll roads may very well be your problem. It doesn't take much for the Toll Road avoidance to send you on some very wierd routes. Try getting from Buffalo NY to Toronto Ontario with "Avoid Toll Roads" set.

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Some problems

In reality I do not need the GPS to go from Detroit to Laredo, except I prefer to have the advance warnings about the next exit coming up especially in strange cities as well as in some locations you need to exit left.

The exceptions are if I go to visit friends where I have never been or make a detour such as New Orleans and the Blue Ridge Parkway on my way home. These are the times I would like to be able to trust the information from the GPS. But I found out it is not always the correct info!

To drive from Detroit really amounts to taking I-75 S and from Cincinnati take I-71 S then I-65 S then from Nashville I-40 W then from Little Rock I-30 W and then from Dallas I-35 S to Laredo and the reverse going home.

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Trust but verify

Treat Garmin products like we treat our nuclear arms reduction partners. "TRUST BUT VERIFY" smile

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Best advice I can give

Myemerald wrote:

We are getting ready for a trip to Kansas and Missouri, we're flying, but will be driving all around once we are there.

Bringing my nuvi 2460 and would love to hear any suggestions you have as far as using it with Mapsource or Basecamp for planning purposes.

Is routing even possible on my 2460?

Thanks!!!

The best advice I can give is plan your trip ahead. Map it out in Mapsource (or Basecamp) then VIEW in Google earth.
If a POI is in the incorrect place you can move it then view again. If the route is not to your liking you can move it then view again.
The most important thing to do is VIEW in Google Earth. This way you know if the place you are going is in the place the POI tells you.
I have a 2450 and love the trip planner except for not showing all legs of the route. Make smaller routes so you can see the end of where you are going. If you have stops in your route you only see to the next stop while the map is active. There are ways to look at the entire route but not when you are following the map.
Hope something in this helps.

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

RE: Which free map tiles...

Thank you. The use of the word "Tile" confused me a little as we don't normally think of them as tiles when on a GPS. But OSM has been around for several years. Depending on the age of your unit's maps they may not contain a lot more detail than Navteq's maps. You do lose the ability to have spoken street names and speed limits displayed also when these are loaded.

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Thanks

Thanks Box Car, I'll stay away from the OSM maps, it will be easier that way smile

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Linda B. Garmin nüvi® 3597LMTHD, Garmin nüvi® 2460LMT (loved it, until I dropped it), Garmin nüvi® 255W

Thank you

Thank you so much mgarledge - I hadn't even noticed the View in Google Earth option!

I'm getting tired and frustrated tonight with the whole thing though, I made a ton of changes in Basecamp to my gps data which of course didn't save. I ended up manually deleting things in my gps. I'm about ready to delete everything and start over...favorites...pois...everything!

Or, I'll get a good night sleep and start over in the morning smile

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Save as after each item

My Mapsource crashes a lot.
It is a hassle but after I do one or two things in Mapsource I do Save As and pick GPX that way if (when) it crashes I have most of the work.

Did not like Basecamp and deleted it but with the new maps I should get a new one and will try again to learn it. Why did Basecamp not save your data?

I keep a file on my computer called
Things currently in Jill
Then in this file is the file named POI.
In the POI file I have all my Main Folders (Business, People, Vacation Cities, etc.)
I then have my GPX files in each of these sub folders (People... dr, friends etc.)
I work in these on Mapsource.
I change anything I need to, make new sub folders or whatever I need to do. After I do any changes I go to POI loader and delete all my files on Jill and my SD card. I then reload to SD card in Jill my entire file. I direct Mapsource to the file named POI that way I get all my subfolders and anything I have changed. I then turn on Jill and let her save it to the GPS.

So far this has worked great for me. Hope it helps.

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Why not use Waypoints?

If one wants to travel a certain route then irregardless of what GPS unit one uses you must tell it where to go. It doesn't make sense to go out of the way umpteen miles to avoid a $1.50 toll when the price of gas is high.
I also use the toll road from Wichita to Kansas City but I35 leaves the toll road and it turns into I335 to Topeka Kansas which my Garmin wants me to take to KC.
I set the way point at Emporia Kansas and then Olathe Kansas to save 13 miles and the extra toll.
On my trips to LA, I set way points to my motel because the shortest route is the slowest one. A detour of 15 miles can save 45 minutes plus of crawling.
The only avoidance I have is dirt roads. The only time I used a ferry was during my trip to Ireland.

Mgarledge

Have you ever used turboccc ExtraPoiEditor? It works well for me to create personal pois, such as destination cities and personal contacts.
Mapsource works great for planning trips. Crashing? That seems to have started with 2013.4 update. That's my experience anyway.

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Have EPE

spokybob wrote:

Have you ever used turboccc ExtraPoiEditor? It works well for me to create personal pois, such as destination cities and personal contacts.
Mapsource works great for planning trips. Crashing? That seems to have started with 2013.4 update. That's my experience anyway.

I have only used it to change files to gpx. Have not tried it for making pois. Does it have the view in Google Earth option?

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Google Earth and More

Google Map, Satellite, Hybrid, Terrain and Google Earth
Starting a new file seems easy.
Open EPE
Click Add new POI
Copy and paste name from your source.
Copy and paste the complete address.
Click Geocode for long/lat
Click Grab
Click OK
Click Save (optional)
Add new POI
....
Click Save As xxx
Does not create routes. At least I don't know how.

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Thanks

spokybob wrote:

Google Map, Satellite, Hybrid, Terrain and Google Earth
Starting a new file seems easy.
Open EPE
Click Add new POI
Copy and paste name from your source.
Copy and paste the complete address.
Click Geocode for long/lat
Click Grab
Click OK
Click Save (optional)
Add new POI
....
Click Save As xxx
Does not create routes. At least I don't know how.

This looks like an easier way to get coordinates than what I do. Will try it.
Thanks again.

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Sorry..

I apologize for laughing at the misfortunes above with routing, but they are hilarious as long as they don't happen to me. I was traveling to an unknown location in the Chicago area, and the darned thing tried to get me to turn into a side street to get to the main thoroughfare instead of going another 1000 feet to the main road.