Florida law says non-residents must carry extra driver's permit (not enforced and being repealed)

 

MODERATOR NOTE 3/15/2013:

Tourism is important to Florida, and state agencies want people to know that Florida’s doors and roadways are open as usual to all visitors.

Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles indicates that the permit requirement is not being enforced:

http://flhsmv.gov/FLVisitorsFAQs.htm

And a bill to officially delete the requirement is working its way through Florida's state senate:

http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2013/7022

ORIGINAL POST:

Alert to all Canadians travelling to Florida. Under the rules introduced Jan. 1, all visitors with foreign licences must have an international permit issued (IDP) by their country of residence in addition to a valid licence from home.

This is one link to understand better: http://news.ca.msn.com/ontario/guelph/florida-now-requires-c...

Tourism industry was not aware of this until a reporter broke the news. Now we have to wait until this is sorted out.

Confusion among Canadians link:
http://news.ca.msn.com/world/canadian-drivers-licences-valid...

Wait and see approach.

Unintended consequences?

Another law not thought out.

Lots of Canadian Snowbirds in FL. Think they will consider somewhere else to go?

--
Metricman Nuvi 660, GTM-20 Traffic Receiver Nuvi 3597 GTM-60 Traffic Receiver Williamsburg, VA

.

metricman wrote:

Lots of Canadian Snowbirds in FL. Think they will consider somewhere else to go?

I just did.

That's nothing new

In many parts of the world, international driving permit (IPD) is required to operate a motor vehicle. Simply because, driver license is issued in the language of issuing country, not the guest country. However, IPD is normally translated into many major languages of the world in one standard format booklet according to Vienna Convention on Road Traffic 1968.

I don't think reading/writing/speaking all type of foreign languages is a requirement for FL police officer, nor required to recognize every driver license issued by every single agencies of the world. How to you expect a police officer to verify a person's ability to drive if that officer can not understand the term/limitation defined in the license?

This is not a law against Canadian friends, but to treat all visiting guests equally.

Texas

Will be glad to have them.

--
3790LMT; 2595LMT; 3590LMT, 60LMTHD

For now

It's put on hold, we'll see with time how this turns out.

http://windsor.ctvnews.ca/florida-deferring-international-dr...

--
Nüvi 255WT with nüMaps Lifetime North America born on 602117815 / Nüvi 3597LMTHD born on 805972514 / I love Friday’s except when I’m on holidays ~ canuk

The law quite likely

The law quite likely violates one of the Geneva Conventions, thus it's on indefinite hold. Florida definitely did not think this through. But then again, thinking things through isn't a requirement in a world where knee-jerk reactions are the order of the day.

--
"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." --Douglas Adams

Sad but true

I think this is will apply to US citizens visiting Florida base on this:

the department said.

"Non-resident visitors to Florida who wish to drive while here will be required to have in their immediate possession a valid driver license issued in his or her name [ from another state or territory of the U.S.] or from their country of residence. However, the FHP will not take enforcement action based solely on the lack of an International Driving Permit."

How about that.

Florida

Drove there on vacation last month and no-one bothered me. Yes, i did have Ontario plates.

--
nuvi 855. Life is not fair. I don't care who told you it is.

nothing new for US residents

Icedog wrote:

I think this is will apply to US citizens visiting Florida base on this:

the department said.

"Non-resident visitors to Florida who wish to drive while here will be required to have in their immediate possession a valid driver license issued in his or her name [ from another state or territory of the U.S.] or from their country of residence. However, the FHP will not take enforcement action based solely on the lack of an International Driving Permit."

How about that.

That was the case before this law, to drive in most states you need a license, I'm from PA, according to this law my PA DL would be allowed to drive on in FL because it's issued by my home state in my name.

--
. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 550, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .

Nothing New??

I am Canadian and I don't mind saying that I will not consider Florida for another three onth stay if Canadians are not exempted. I am from Ontario and I can say with authority that most all licenses in Canada are printed in English. I cannot speak to French speaking Quebec but believe it possible that theirs is bilingual.
I think the new Florida law was ill thought through and they are shooting themselves in the foot.
In 2010 there were 3.1 million Canadians that visited Florida. Most stay for three months and spend on average about $3,000 dollars US per month here. Do the math and see how that might be buoying the Floridian economy.
Never has any North American jurisdiction reqired any other North American jurisdiction to have an International Drivers Permit. I for one will not purchase one and I think Florida is putting themselves on the same level as European "foreien countries". What a sham

--
Nuvi 2595LMT Oregon 450 - Always drink upstream from the herd.

As a

As a Canadian snowbird that has spent winters in Florida and now resides in Arizona for half the year, I'd say AZ would welcome any, and all, Canadians that want to move here from Florida. No extra costs, no humidity, no earthquakes, no hurricanes and no crazier state government than what you have in FL.

--
Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, DriveSmart 61, Garmin Backup Camera 40 and TomTom XXL540s.

waste of time.

One thing not mentioned is that it is a worthless piece of paper.
For me to get an International Drivers License in Iowa I have to go to the local AAA office, pay $10 and a (any)secretary will stamp a page in a booklet and then I have one. I needed one because the car rental company would not rent a car without one and had nothing to do with the government. This is not a legal document for the AAA is not a government agency. The secretary is not a government employee so basically the booklet says that I paid my $10 and they gave me a stamped booklet.
I believe that the power to regulate commerce between countries is the sole power of the Federal government under Section 8 of the Constitution and the state of Florida has no power to tell Canadians how they can enter their state.

Cuba is a favorite for some

Cuba is a favorite for some Canadians and has been for quite some time.

--
romanviking

Yes...

romanviking wrote:

Cuba is a favorite for some Canadians and has been for quite some time.

...but it's not a very convenient driving destination.... smile

Why not?

VersatileGuy wrote:
romanviking wrote:

Cuba is a favorite for some Canadians and has been for quite some time.

...but it's not a very convenient driving destination.... smile

Mount some pontoons to your vehicle and add a high HP outboard engine or 2 and voila - Cuba here you come!

After all, you are the VersitleGuy! wink

ML smile

--
Freedom isn't free...thank you veterans! Heard about the tests to detect PANCREATIC CANCER? There aren't any! In Memoriam: #77 NYPD-SCA/Seattle Mike/Joe S./Vinny D./RTC...and God bless Donald Trump!

This is quite interesting...

Driving privileges are issued by the local state, so how is international permitting going to fit in?

--
Striving to make the NYC Metro area project the best.

Law suspended for now

--
All the worlds indeed a stage and we are merely players. Rush

Canadian Written English Same As US English

cameotabby wrote:

In many parts of the world, international driving permit (IPD) is required to operate a motor vehicle. Simply because, driver license is issued in the language of issuing country, not the guest country. However, IPD is normally translated into many major languages of the world in one standard format booklet according to Vienna Convention on Road Traffic 1968.

I don't think reading/writing/speaking all type of foreign languages is a requirement for FL police officer, nor required to recognize every driver license issued by every single agencies of the world. How to you expect a police officer to verify a person's ability to drive if that officer can not understand the term/limitation defined in the license?

This is not a law against Canadian friends, but to treat all visiting guests equally.

With the exception of words like "colour" & "color" I would hope that a Florida policeman would be able to figure it out.

Now put yourself in our position. Florida expects me to spend about $75-$100 to get an IDP for my wife and I. This has to be done every year. All other US states say we can read your license. Where do you think I feel more welcome and more inclined to visit?

It was just plain nuts on the part of Florida. 3 million Canadians spend a pile of money every year in Florida and I'm sure Alabama or Georgia would love to get a chunk of it.

--
NUVI2555LMT, NUVI350

$25 + piece of paper IDP

In Ontario the IDP costs you $25 + 2 photos passport type and in the end goes up $10 more dollars. The license is $75 for 5 years.

Why?

What made Florida pass this law? Of all the states that welcome foreign visitors why did Florida think this was necessary? Did something happen, law suite maybe?

--
Wanted -Woman with GPS -send picture of GPS

Another driving tax for out

Another driving tax for out of state?

French

I am a Canadian French-speaking and my license is in French only. Did you know that your officers are bilingual.

Yes, they all managed to give us Tickets. Even if our license is in French.

.

metricman wrote:

Another law not thought out.

Lots of Canadian Snowbirds in FL. Think they will consider somewhere else to go?

Uh, no. They're not going to change their destination at all. They will comply with the law and enjoy themselves in Florida.

Apparently Florida apologized to Canada

--
All the worlds indeed a stage and we are merely players. Rush

sort of

stevel123 wrote:

Another driving tax for out of state?

Well, there is no profit if you actually obey the law and get the right papers before you come, just expense to you. The profit is on marks who don't know about the law or think they will not get caught paying big fines. Welcome tourists!

(Illegal Mexicans can still do whatever they want and if the Pres, has his way will get Florida drivers licenses, cheaper than the international paperwork!)

Permit

It is obvious that Florida lawmakers are complete idiots.

I spend my winter in Mexico and there is nothing that requires me to have an International driving licence!!!!!!!!!

--
Nuvi 350 long gone, Nuvi 855LMT, Nuvi 2797LMT, DriveSmart 50 LMT-HD, 3790LMT now my daughters. Using Windows 10. DashCam A108C with GPS.

driver licence

Good thing, Florida voted against this law last week, ouffff

Good News

--
Nüvi 255WT with nüMaps Lifetime North America born on 602117815 / Nüvi 3597LMTHD born on 805972514 / I love Friday’s except when I’m on holidays ~ canuk

Good News

Drive safe and enjoy.Common sense prevail. It was not about the law but how it was brought up. One more for the books...lol.
http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/florida-repeals-international-...

Canadians

How do they count the number of Canadians visiting Florida?

--
nuvi 855. Life is not fair. I don't care who told you it is.

Short-lived idea

This was repealed before it even got implemented. Somebody in Tallahassee is probably job hunting by now.

--
Gotta travel on ... with my nuvi 2450LM.

If I recall correctly, my

If I recall correctly, my rental of an auto in Europe required an international drivers license several years ago. Seemed reasonable to me.

Fred

count the grey haired people

Not2Bright wrote:

How do they count the number of Canadians visiting Florida?

and divide by two.

--
Illiterate? Write for free help.

My 2 cents

No matter what the law turns out to be, Canada should be exempted. Just one U.S. citizen, FL residents opinion. I'd also exempt the EU.

On The Canadian Side

Perhaps Canada can repeal its requirement to carry a Canadian insurance card. We don't require Canadians to carry a United States card. It is a real pain sometimes to get one.

--
I support the right to keep and arm bears.

Not quite the same

Aardvark wrote:

Perhaps Canada can repeal its requirement to carry a Canadian insurance card. We don't require Canadians to carry a United States card. It is a real pain sometimes to get one.

I do not think it have the same impact.
An internationnal driving license as rather minor consequence.
We're talking about $ 50.

Not having insurance is a lot of money if you need to be hospitalized.

yes it is the same

No one was talking about not having insurance, or even not having a piece of paper that shows you have it and gives your policy number. The complaint made, as I understood it, was that the hosers, who complained loudly when told that Florida wouldn't accept their Canadian drivers license, are requiring us to have special Canadian insurance cards rather than just accepting our Insurance cards that were issued in this country. Sounds like a pretty legitimate complaint to me.

MODERATOR NOTE

Tourism is important to Florida, and state agencies want people to know that Florida’s doors and roadways are open as usual to all visitors.

Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles indicates that the permit requirement is not being enforced:

http://flhsmv.gov/FLVisitorsFAQs.htm

And a bill to officially delete the requirement is working its way through Florida's state senate:

http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2013/7022

(I've also added this note to the original post)

JM

Yes

Frovingslosh wrote:

No one was talking about not having insurance, or even not having a piece of paper that shows you have it and gives your policy number. The complaint made, as I understood it, was that the hosers, who complained loudly when told that Florida wouldn't accept their Canadian drivers license, are requiring us to have special Canadian insurance cards rather than just accepting our Insurance cards that were issued in this country. Sounds like a pretty legitimate complaint to me.

Yes that is correct. I have valid New York State insurance cards but they are not valid in Canada. Yet a Canadian carrying a Canadian insurance card is valid in New York State. They do not need to get a New York State non-resident card or even a United States Proof of Insurance Card (which does not exist).

I should note that some insurance company's such as Allstate and USAA are claiming the Canadian card is no longer required in place of your existing U.S. cards. Others are claiming, including the U.S. Department of State travel advisory web site, they are. Go figure...

--
I support the right to keep and arm bears.

Maybe

this is the result of "No Fault insurance"?

It is "no fault" only for those who pay into the system.

I think this is more important than an "english" driver's permit.......

--
If the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem quickly resembles a nail. (Maslow's Hammer)

Canadian Insurance card Is Not Needed In Canada

Aardvark wrote:

Perhaps Canada can repeal its requirement to carry a Canadian insurance card. We don't require Canadians to carry a United States card. It is a real pain sometimes to get one.

I actually work for a major Auto Insurer in Canada. I believe you have been misinformed about the facts of Insurance. In Canada, you have to have insurance on the vehicle that you are driving. This ensures that all parties involved in an accident are protected. There is no legislation that says you have to have a CANADIAN Insurance card. If you have a valid US insurance card you are fine. Some states do not require your vehicle to be insured, this is why there is a requirement to have insurance. In that case a vehicle that you are driving may need to have an insurance card.

You have been misinformed.

From GPSgeeks daughter in law.

--
NUVI2555LMT, NUVI350

Canadian insurance card

GPSgeek wrote:
Aardvark wrote:

Perhaps Canada can repeal its requirement to carry a Canadian insurance card. We don't require Canadians to carry a United States card. It is a real pain sometimes to get one.

I actually work for a major Auto Insurer in Canada. I believe you have been misinformed about the facts of Insurance. In Canada, you have to have insurance on the vehicle that you are driving. This ensures that all parties involved in an accident are protected. There is no legislation that says you have to have a Military Style American Flag Decals. If you have a valid US insurance card you are fine. Some states do not require your vehicle to be insured, this is why there is a requirement to have insurance. In that case a vehicle that you are driving may need to have an insurance card.

You have been misinformed.

From GPSgeeks daughter in law.

When my wife and I vacationed in Niagara Falls, Canada I had my American insurance company issue me a Canadian insurance card valid only for a few weeks to cover the time I was in Canada. I was told I didn't need one but since they did have them I took one to be safe.

--
. 2 Garmin DriveSmart 61 LMT-S, Nuvi 2689, 2 Nuvi 2460, Zumo 550, Zumo 450, Uniden R3 radar detector with GPS built in, includes RLC info. Uconnect 430N Garmin based, built into my Jeep. .