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660 Free Space Remaining after latest map upgrade...

 

After the upgrade last night, I had 70.5Mb free on my 660. I had taken out some of the voices and pictures, music....

I took out more tonight, and about 1/3 of the non-english help files.....

I do have a question about one file...

In the 660, in the MP3 directory, there is a 109Kb file named: Welcome to AudioLunchBox.mp3

Should the file be replaced with a smaller mp3 of same name, or can it be safely deleted to free up space??

As of now I have 91.5Mb free

Thanks...

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2x Nuvi 660'sOne with -- Lifetime Maps -- Lifetime Traffic And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that Doesn't support External POI's BOO HOO!

Carefully continued on....

Carefully continued on.... Removing files...
I'm still deciding to stay away from any file deletion in the gpx directory...

But finished deleting all help directories except English, and I'm down to 3 vehicles, and only one voice.

I'm still wondering about the MP3 file Mentioned above... I'm considering replacing it with a short silence piece of same name, then if there is anything needed about the filename, it would still be there........ but for now file still remains.

The FAQ mentions a Text directory, but I don't see one....

I now have 108Mb free.... After removing a couple POI's I don't need any more... I believe I'm within 3 files --- (2 vehicles and the MP3 file listed above) of having it as cleaned up as possible...

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2x Nuvi 660'sOne with -- Lifetime Maps -- Lifetime Traffic And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that Doesn't support External POI's BOO HOO!

AudioLunchBox.mp3

That file is only 198KB so it’s an insignificant change. Why keep it at all, it's only an introduction about the MP3 player and an advertisement to buy additional tracks for .20 cents from their site.
The file is useless and can safely be deleted without consequences.

I recall from a previous thread you are unable to backup your 660.

I still can't understand why you refuse to delete the corrupted files in your GPX folder. Let me explain how it works. The only file you need there is the current.gpx file. It is stored in memory that is not accessible. Every time you boot it recreates itself so even if you deleted it will reappear.

Now if you have any other .gpx files in the Garmin\GPX folder, when the Nuvi reboots it will add those files to the current .gpx file. As long as those files remain in the .GPX folder it will attempt to add them on every reboot.

The corrupted files you have there are not routes since the 660 is not capable of transferring routes.

IT IS SAFE TO DELETE all files in the GPX directory Except the current.gpx file.

If you still refuse to delete those files I'm afraid there is no more help I can offer you.

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Nuvi 660 2460LMT Sold My 765T

Corrupted filenames. They

Corrupted filenames. They aren't as easily deleted as you might think. Given his 660 uses USB 1.1, I can understand why he doesn't want to pull everything off the device, format it, and put everything back on. He'd be at it for hours.

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I appreciate what you are

I appreciate what you are saying....

If you could see the file directory here, I think you'd understand why I'm not doing as you suggest..
The filenames, extentions, Date & Timestamps are all "Gobbledy-Gook"... with Illegal characters in the names... UGLY!!

I posted my alternate email address in another thread, but no one asked to see the screen grab... Looks quite ugly... and claims to be many many Gb in size... Far, Far greater than the size of the drive itself, and the 'Current' file being only date & Time stamped file that makes any sense, or 'legal' name.

I've done about 3-4 Map updates since I discovered I couldn't do a backup.... So the map update I did a couple days ago only held a slight concern... for it's success...

So at this point, I'm just freeing up as much as possible, and continuing on... As I'm not going to delete any files there, in the off chance they are 'cross-linked'.... You know how bad that would be.... if a cross-linked file was deleted....

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2x Nuvi 660'sOne with -- Lifetime Maps -- Lifetime Traffic And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that Doesn't support External POI's BOO HOO!

@JanJ

I've reread your earlier post on the issue.

You indicated you could back up most of the files Except the Garmin folder. Try backing up the folder by selecting all the sub folders BUT NOT the GPX folder. If that worked, attempt to back up the current.gpx file ONLY.
This way you will have a complete backup of the 660 and only the GPX folder missing but still have the current.gpx file on your PC.

I see you never mentioned doing a hard reset, this will restore the nuvi to factory but delete your favorites (current.gpx).

To do so place a finger or pencil eraser at the bottom right of the screen and hold the power button on until you reach the screen that shows ""do you really want to erase all user data?", answer YES.

What this does is recreates a new current.gpx file.

If that didn't help, I inclined to believe Strephon_Alkhalikoi suggestion of it being a corrupt Master Boot record.

I will send you an email giving you my email address so you can forward the jpg of the GPX directory and I'll post it here.

If anyone interested in JanJ's original post here is the link: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/37189

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Nuvi 660 2460LMT Sold My 765T

Email Sent

Did a current capture to 2 jpeg's...

Shows all but 2 files....

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2x Nuvi 660'sOne with -- Lifetime Maps -- Lifetime Traffic And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that Doesn't support External POI's BOO HOO!

Corrupt FAT/MBR, Part Deux

JanJ wrote:

If you could see the file directory here, I think you'd understand why I'm not doing as you suggest..
The filenames, extentions, Date & Timestamps are all "Gobbledy-Gook"... with Illegal characters in the names... UGLY!!

I know this wasn't directed at me, but I didn't have to see your directory listing. Just from the description you gave in your other thread I could tell what the problem was and provided a solution. But I also understand how much of a pain it would be to implement that solution: copy (not move) all the data you can off the 660 then format the internal memory. USB 1.1 is rather pokey these days and the entire process will take about five hours because of it. Two or so hours to pull the data off, a few minutes to format the internal memory, then two additional hours to put the data back on.

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"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." --Douglas Adams

Let's wait until the

Let's wait until the pictures get posted....

They are pretty ugly...

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2x Nuvi 660'sOne with -- Lifetime Maps -- Lifetime Traffic And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that Doesn't support External POI's BOO HOO!

Gpx Directory Pics

The pics I received were not very clear and you had to scroll to see them all. Hopefully you can see enough to get an idea, indeed it is a mess.

Right click on the link and choose open
Then
Left click on the photo to enlarge.

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab32/muell9k/JanJ%20Jpgs/...

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab32/muell9k/JanJ%20Jpgs/...

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Nuvi 660 2460LMT Sold My 765T

Links

muell9k wrote:

The pics I received were not very clear and you had to scroll to see them all. Hopefully you can see enough to get an idea, indeed it is a mess.

Right click on the link and choose open
Then
Left click on the photo to enlarge.

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab32/muell9k/JanJ%20Jpgs/...

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab32/muell9k/JanJ%20Jpgs/...

I couldn't get the 2nd link to display but guessed at what it should be and came up with:

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab32/muell9k/JanJ%20Jpgs/...

Given that jj is able to use the 660 and even do map updates, I agree that I'd be pretty fearful of trying to "fix" it. I'd live with it (as jj has been doing over several past map updates) and accept that some day, the device will fail and look for a replacement purchase at that point.

...or, as I mentioned in the first thread, if JJ is looking for an excuse to buy a newer more feature-filled GPS, what better opportunity is there than trying to "fix" (but unfortunately "brick") the unit in hand? wink

I agree with CraigW

I agree with CraigW, attempting to fix it may brick the unit. In the future if you run out of space just buy an SD card.

The GPX folder only contains one gpx file (current.gpx 31KB.
The rest I have no idea what they are.

Some really crazy folders in there with stamp dates of 2031,2032,2035, etc.

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Nuvi 660 2460LMT Sold My 765T

Sorry it didn't come out

Sorry it didn't come out better, but as you see... It's pretty bad....

But (He says with tougue-in-cheek) Since the 660 doesn't know it's FUBAR..... It keeps on working!!!

Map Updates... POI Updates... Even adding new, or deleting old Favorites works flawlessly!!!

Therefore... I'm going to stick my head solidly in the sand.... (now that I've freed up almost as much space as I can....) and take the approach:

"What? Me Worry?" and keep on going... as if nothing was wrong....

At this point, I'm going to do just that!!

If it dies... Well... I'll deal with that when that happens!!!

Ignorance is Bliss!!

(Well.... Maybe in THIS CASE!!! smile! )

Thanks for your suggestions....
(We now Return this thread to it's normally scheduled conversations! smile! )

Really..... Thanks!!

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2x Nuvi 660'sOne with -- Lifetime Maps -- Lifetime Traffic And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that Doesn't support External POI's BOO HOO!

Can lead a horse to water but can't make them drink

muell9k wrote:

I agree with CraigW, attempting to fix it may brick the unit. In the future if you run out of space just buy an SD card.

The GPX folder only contains one gpx file (current.gpx 31KB.
The rest I have no idea what they are.

Some really crazy folders in there with stamp dates of 2031,2032,2035, etc.

Leaving it alone I don't feel is wise, however it seems I'm the lone voice crying wolf in the wilderness. It would bug me to no end that my GPS was doing this since it's clearly not functioning correctly. But I'm very particular, almost obsessive/compulsive about my electronics. They either work properly or I fix them until they do. smile

At least if things get worse people know what to do.

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Lone Wolf Not Alone

Strephon_Alkhalikoi wrote:

[Leaving it alone I don't feel is wise, however it seems I'm the lone voice crying wolf in the wilderness. It would bug me to no end that my GPS was doing this since it's clearly not functioning correctly. But I'm very particular, almost obsessive/compulsive about my electronics. They either work properly or I fix them until they do. smile
At least if things get worse people know what to do.

I still own a 66o and it remains one of my favorites, it's simple to use and has never failed me. Saying that, if my 660 behaved like JanJ's I would have deleted those corrupt files, if that didn't work I would have formatted as you suggested.

I too am a stickler on things working properly so I would have tried those methods even with the gamble
of bricking the unit. But that's just me and I respect JanJ's decision of leaving it alone.

As an anoalgy, if my cars emergency brake wasn't working at peak performance, and I failed to get it repaired. Quite possibly one day I would need it, but it didn't stop me from having an accident.
Quite possible the same may hold true for the Nuvi.

No two people are alike, what's important to some may not be to others so I try my best to have an open mind.

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Nuvi 660 2460LMT Sold My 765T

You are not alone either

Those are corrupt files. I would at least do my best to back up the 660, even if it is 1 file at a time.
Then instead of deleting all files at one time I would delete a few at a time and make note of which ones.

But the end result is Janj's decision and I also respect that.

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Nuvi 650 and 1350.

the pack grows

pwohlrab wrote:

Those are corrupt files. I would at least do my best to back up the 660, even if it is 1 file at a time.

But the end result is Janj's decision and I also respect that.

The pack grows. I also believe the corrupt files should be cleaned fro the unit.

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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy, 35th U.S. president

I had to buy an SD card to

I had to buy an SD card to fit my maps

low free space causes keyboard entry lag?

Has anyone noticed that low free space seems to cause considerable lagging when entering information, for example entering addresses?

I'm not familiar with how

I'm not familiar with how low is low space....

I've always had a minimum of 50Mb free...
At present... 108Mb free....

And with that stated.... No, I've not encountered that... Though sometimes in the past year or so it takes longer to get satellites....

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2x Nuvi 660'sOne with -- Lifetime Maps -- Lifetime Traffic And a 2011 Ford Escape with Nav System that Doesn't support External POI's BOO HOO!

@JanJ

muell9k wrote:

... You indicated you could back up most of the files Except the Garmin folder. Try backing up the folder by selecting all the sub folders BUT NOT the GPX folder. If that worked, attempt to back up the current.gpx file ONLY.
This way you will have a complete backup of the 660 and only the GPX folder missing but still have the current.gpx file on your PC.

I see you never mentioned doing a hard reset, this will restore the nuvi to factory but delete your favorites (current.gpx).

To do so place a finger or pencil eraser at the bottom right of the screen and hold the power button on until you reach the screen that shows ""do you really want to erase all user data?", answer YES.

What this does is recreates a new current.gpx file. ...

Curious, as muell9k asked, can you copy the current.gpx file?

Can you copy all the other Garmin sub-folders excluding the GPX sub-folder?

Can you copy all other folders excluding the Garmin folder?

If so, you have a complete backup. Then I would suggest formatting the drive and then re-storing your files, renaming the current.gpx to temp.gpx and placing it in the new GPX sub-folder.

Why pretend to not be concerned (head in sand) or depend on a unit you truely don't have any faith in.

My 2 cents - No guts, no glory! Go for it!

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Zumo 665, (2) Nuvi 765Ts & 1450LMT | 2005 Harley Road King, Black Cherry Pearl / Black Pearl

Music -

Music is probably the 2nd biggest occupier of space - first being the maps - on your 660. I keep all my music on an SD Card. That way I have plenty room on My 660 for maps and POIs.

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