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As far vas the Having a Firearm goes

Wife and I are CCW Instructors, I never go anywhere without several levels of protection. But the first and most important part of a CCW course, is not the firearm and using it, but how to avoid getting into situations that might requirer deadly force!

So having a GPS inform you this is not an area you want to be in unless absolutely neccesary is a good thing. We teach levels of awareness, always have escape plan and such, this would just be an extra level of protection when traveling.

I would rather be called "Racist" then DEAD!

Seems like a good idea to me

We've all been in that situation before and if we can avoid it in the future, all the better.

Sometimes the fastest route is not the best route

Then or Than?

windwalker wrote:

I would rather be called "Racist" then DEAD!

Windwalker I hope you meant "rather be called a Racist than Dead", not THEN dead!

Iam surprised

I am surprised that Bing or Google Maps do not have this either.

I am in favor of both

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JRoz -- DriveSmart 55 & Traffic

I could see this being a

I could see this being a very good option.. But how would you define it?

sounds like a good feature

I'd use this feature - high crime areas are not a place I want to go through by accident, simply because I am unfamilar with an area.

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___________________ Garmin 2455, 855, Oregon 550t

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BruceMck wrote:
windwalker wrote:

I would rather be called "Racist" then DEAD!

Windwalker I hope you meant "rather be called a Racist than Dead", not THEN dead!

very true smile

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"You can't get there from here"

Custom avoidances

muell9k wrote:
MarkZiemba wrote:

No, this is a great feature -- especially for people who travel a lot and like to take walks in the evening. Now I wish the capability can be established in our Garmin GPS units -- perhaps a POI file for the most dangerous localities in America?

Actually it is already present to some degree with some more current Nuvi's that hav CUSTOM AVOIDANCES.
It is NOT based on crime statistics but merely a certain area, road, or road portion you want to avoid.

Under Custom Avoidances you can choose Road or Area, A specific are is achieved by zooming in map to appropriate level to encompass the area, then hit two corner points of the map, then hit done.You can now give it a name.

Is there really such an option?

Statiscal Base Only

As long as the avoidance is based on Crime Statistics and not racial profiling, that would be a great feature. The reason we use GPS is because we are often in areas that we're not familiar with.

We have traffic avoidance available, it only adds one more good feature.

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DriveSmart 65, NUVI2555LMT, (NUVI350 is Now Retired)

racial?

GPSgeek wrote:

As long as the avoidance is based on Crime Statistics and not racial profiling, that would be a great feature. The reason we use GPS is because we are often in areas that we're not familiar with.

We have traffic avoidance available, it only adds one more good feature.

I believe the word "ghetto" has nothing to do with a specific race or national origin, it has to do more with human behavior and life style.

What we know as ghetto in Camden NJ doesn't have the same race make up in San Francisco or in Dallas, Miami,LA or NY

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Garmin 38 - Magellan Gold - Garmin Yellow eTrex - Nuvi 260 - Nuvi 2460LMT - Google Nexus 7 - Toyota Entune NAV

Me To in Newark

jmkthird wrote:

in a section of Baltimore MDvthe last time I was there! I had to run 3 red lights because every time I stopped at a red light, I was a sitting target with my brand new rented SUV Very scary to say the least! I'll never do that again...

The same happened to me. All of the construction around the airport at the time had me in a wrong lane while leaving the airport. The rental company gave my sedan away and gave me a free upgrade to the only car they had left, a top of the line Mustang GT I think. I could tell it was definitely a desireable sports car from the way they came off the sidewalk at me at the stop light. I checked out the gears pretty quick. Didn't stop til I was out of the neighborHOOD.

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Harley BOOM GTS, Zumo 665, (2) Nuvi 765Ts, 1450LMT, 1350LM & others | 2019 Harley Ultra Limited Shrine - Peace Officer Dark Blue

new name

Agreed that a new name is needed. Maybe.."High radiation area". Who could this offend?

I didn't..

johnm405 wrote:
jmkthird wrote:
Juggernaut wrote:

I'd suggest this could have been better handled by naming the avoidance "Dangerous Areas". That would include high crime, drug, and other related things.

All things said and done, there's just as much 'white trash' as Hispanic, black etc. all over the world. It comes down to socio-economic reasons, not colour.

Mind you, looking at Wall Street, that doesn't ring true either! wink

in a section of Baltimore MDvthe last time I was there! I had to run 3 red lights because every time I stopped at a red light, I was a sitting target with my brand new rented SUV Very scary to say the least! I'll never do that again...

Just lock the doors and wait what would you have told the cop if you had a wreck or stoped for running a redlight. (Sorry officer I am afaid of the neighborhood) don't think that would go over very good.

want to take the chance. Besides, at the time of night that it was, there was no traffic, and I did look first...lock the doors? Are you serious, have you seen "Family Vacation?" I think that was filmed in downtown Baltimore.!

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"Backward, turn backward, oh time in your flight, make me a child again, just for tonight."

I think...

dagarmin wrote:
jmkthird wrote:

in a section of Baltimore MD the last time I was there! I had to run 3 red lights because every time I stopped at a red light, I was a sitting target with my brand new rented SUV Very scary to say the least! I'll never do that again...

I hope you had your Red Light Camera POI loaded so you knew how many tickets to expect to get bills for from the car rental company! Baltimore loves them some RLCs. And yes, there are definitely large sections of Baltimore that are best avoided.

I don't know how much agreement you'd get on a lot of neighborhoods in a lot of cities, though. Sure, in some neighborhoods, most people would say, not good, but in others, you'd have an argument. People have varying levels of tolerance on this. Some want to make a u-turn with the first metal grate they see pulled across a storefront. Others are oblivious to gunfire going off around them.

All of this plays into our desire to take things that have gradations of challenge on multiple dimensions and make it one or the other--life isn't that simple.

I remember Miss POI posting, Not on my watch will we have a POI file like THAT.

you have to be the best judge in the long run.

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"Backward, turn backward, oh time in your flight, make me a child again, just for tonight."

You are...

johnm405 wrote:
jmkthird wrote:
Juggernaut wrote:

I'd suggest this could have been better handled by naming the avoidance "Dangerous Areas". That would include high crime, drug, and other related things.

All things said and done, there's just as much 'white trash' as Hispanic, black etc. all over the world. It comes down to socio-economic reasons, not colour.

Mind you, looking at Wall Street, that doesn't ring true either! wink

in a section of Baltimore MDvthe last time I was there! I had to run 3 red lights because every time I stopped at a red light, I was a sitting target with my brand new rented SUV Very scary to say the least! I'll never do that again...

Just lock the doors and wait what would you have told the cop if you had a wreck or stoped for running a redlight. (Sorry officer I am afaid of the neighborhood) don't think that would go over very good.

so right. It just so happens that was the section we were in. Every "old" city has it's depressed areas, but I was not at that time taking an "ethnic" poll, I just wanted to find "95" and get the hell out of there.

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"Backward, turn backward, oh time in your flight, make me a child again, just for tonight."

Hear no evil...See no evil

TMK wrote:

I'd form and participate in a citizens watch group and make sure the scum got a plain lesson in community togetherness...when people cede their neighborhoods to thugs of any race, color or creed it's their own fault. I have plenty of friends that are cops in Philly that try to investigate crime and are told "I didn't see anything, I didn't hear anything"...well, all righty then, don't complain about crime...many is the "ghetto" neighborhood that got cleaned up when citizens finally had had enough.

Isn't using a GPS program to avoid high crime areas just an electronic form of "I didn't see anything, I didn't hear anything"?

Seems like this GPS program is anathema to a citizens group.

Just sayin'.....

I'm a proud High School drop out

Took my GED in the ARMY before going to Nam, didn't have Then and Than on the test. Did you understand my point?

spotcrime

There is always http://spotcrime.com

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-Quest, Nuvi 1390T

Pretty neat

ddeerrff wrote:

There is always http://spotcrime.com

This is a neat site - one can use this to attempt to make a POI file such as the one mentioned in the original post - not racial as other have brought up, just crime based.

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JRoz -- DriveSmart 55 & Traffic

I would have...

dagarmin wrote:
jmkthird wrote:

in a section of Baltimore MD the last time I was there! I had to run 3 red lights because every time I stopped at a red light, I was a sitting target with my brand new rented SUV Very scary to say the least! I'll never do that again...

I hope you had your Red Light Camera POI loaded so you knew how many tickets to expect to get bills for from the car rental company! Baltimore loves them some RLCs. And yes, there are definitely large sections of Baltimore that are best avoided.

I don't know how much agreement you'd get on a lot of neighborhoods in a lot of cities, though. Sure, in some neighborhoods, most people would say, not good, but in others, you'd have an argument. People have varying levels of tolerance on this. Some want to make a u-turn with the first metal grate they see pulled across a storefront. Others are oblivious to gunfire going off around them.

All of this plays into our desire to take things that have gradations of challenge on multiple dimensions and make it one or the other--life isn't that simple.

I remember Miss POI posting, Not on my watch will we have a POI file like THAT.

welcomed the police, and the cost of the violation would have been well worth it, believe me!!

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"Backward, turn backward, oh time in your flight, make me a child again, just for tonight."

Avoid Ghetto

ACLU is already screaming - What if people can't drive on MLK -

Call it whatever you want I

Call it whatever you want I like the idea. I travel sometimes for work and ended up a few times in places I didn't want to be. Funny in some countries such a Mexico and Brazil they patrol certain sections with assault rifles and who complains about that. This country listens too much to political correctness. I despise racism but people need to wake up that some places are dangerous to be in. I really don't care what the color of the skin is if they are a threat then I want to avoid it.

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