The Android OS is Eating away at the Apple IOS

AT&T's Android sales are catching up to iPhone
By Stacy Cowley @CNNMoneyTech October 20, 2011

AT&T activated 1 million new iPhones in the first few days after the launch, AT&T Mobility CEO Ralph de la Vega said Thursday on a conference call with analysts.

"It's been our most successful launch in history," he said.

But Google's (GOOG, Fortune 500) Android is chipping away at the iPhone's lead. Sales of Android devices doubled compared to last year, and almost half of the 4.8 million smartphones AT&T sold this quarter were Android devices, the company said.

Complete Story:
http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/20/technology/att_earnings/inde...

Read all about it:

http://www.talkandroid.com/43703-google-music-vs-apple-iclou...

Google music is still in Beta

I need to get the invite.

Samsung overtakes Apple as leading smartphone vendor: Samsung has overtaken Apple as the world’s leading smartphone vendor, according to a report from Bloomberg, as the two companies fight over patent issues in several courts across the globe. Samsung is currently the largest maker of smartphones that run Google’s Android platform and, according to a U.K.-based analytics firm, has also captured 23.8 percent of the world smartphone market. Apple, the report said, is now the world’s second-largest manufacturer, with 14.6 percent of the market, followed by Nokia.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/the-circu...

http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/11/09/google.chair.v...

It's just called good business practices

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/242706/the_pro...

There keep each other on there toe's! goood for the consumer!

No need to go any farther than the comments within the link you provided above. They say it all, just like the name of this forum topic. It's just happening much faster than most appleholics want to believe.

What about now?

Android is MUCH better than iOS

What may be better for you is not really so for another. It all comes down to what your are used to. I use Blackberry, Android, Mac, IOS, and windows all on a daily basis. I feel for what is available they are all pretty evenly matched. Just depends on what a person wants to spend and what they are comfortable with.

As mentioned early the Ipod is what every other MP3 player is compared to, Apple created the standard. Other manufactures have met and even exceeded that standard in one way or another.

What I will say about Android, at least my phone, it does not come from the manufacture or the phone provider with Mac software. My Blackberry came with software for both OS's and so does the Iphone. Does this make one better then the other? Not really. Again use what ever is comfortable for you.

For work I use the Ipad for most of the job because of the larger screen. The Android phone has my manuals also and I have used it but it is not easy to look at full pages on the phone. Yes I'm aware of larger devices that are Android capable.

From: AFP
December 07, 2011 6:51AM

MORE than 10 billion applications have been downloaded from Google's Android Market, which offers free and paid programs for Android smartphones and tablet computers.

"This past weekend, thanks to Android users around the world, Android Market exceeded 10 billion app downloads, with a growth rate of one billion app downloads per month," Eric Chu, director of Google's Android Developer Ecosystem, said in a blog post.

"We can't wait to see where this accelerating growth takes us in 2012," Chu said.

To celebrate achieving the 10-billion download mark, Google said Android developers would offer a selection of apps a day for the next 10 days for just 10 cents each.

Google's announcement comes exactly five months after Apple announced that more than 15 billion applications for the iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch have been downloaded from its App Store.

and both iPhone 4S and android ICS 4.0 hit the streets and apple followers were never so disappointed as they are now

many of them realized that being loyal to blood sucking apple is not always paying off and they turn to free (or less expensive in a long run) solutions, e.g. android phones

if you ask me, my personal opinion is that Steve Jobs'es vision was the motor of Apple. that vision was to introduce the best and nicest smart devices onto market and at same time to bind its users for paying for pretty much everything (iTunes). just compare pricing of similar products between Android Market and iTunes and you will see what I mean.

it doesn't help now that SJ's biography says black on white that Steve's mission, after his ways and Google ways went opposite directions (they used to be friendly partners in past), was to destroy Android... and now it comes back and bites Apple in their asses. And that I am grateful for

Android is bound to win in a long run, it's getting better and better, every month. only open source approach gets real love from communities, even Microsoft learned that tough lesson.

p.s. I have nothing personal against apple, but i just hate their business model (closed, tight, restrictive, expensive, full of marketing propaganda, etc.)

Itunes is free for Windows and Apple products.

There is free music, and podcasts on Itunes, not all of it has to be purchased.

There are free and low cost apps in the Apple store just as there is in the Android market.

I'll admit that Apple products are expensive. I admit I like my Apple products, Ipad and Apple Macbook. I also enjoy owning and using Blackberry, Android and Windows products. They all work well together. I can sync my calendar, mail, music and files between all of them easily with Google and Dropbox.

To be honest the Android phone gives me the most problems though. When it works it works well but I have to do a battery pull on it about once every other week. It gets to the point that everytime I goto the favorites screen I have to wait longer and longer for it to load so that I can use it. There are only 6 favorites on the page so it shouldn't take long for it to load. Don't get me wrong it is a great phone and works well.

I'm just saying that none of these products are all that they are cracked up to be. Just use whatever you like and enjoy.

Having grown up on Windows, I was under the impression that this was a valuable feature of the techmonology!

is crazy. Android phone and devices do everything as well or better than Apple for less money.

Easiest way to clear all memory that is not used as a semi-permanent storage

yup, I understand about iTunes being free as a software and so on. it's just most paid apps in there are much more expensive than their equivalents in Android Market.

besides with android phone you can load the content to its memory or SD card like it was an external hard drive
try doing it with iWhatever ... nope, it must get accepted, approved and optimized through iTunes, period. oh, and using Flash on apple products? is it even possible yet? on androids it works normally, Flash Player is free in Android Market.

as per your problem requiring pulling the battery out. I had this sort of trouble with early android OS on my G2, back in times when I was running 2.2 Froyo. GB 2.3 should be free of this problem. I honestly only restart my phone every other weekend and charge it up like every 2-3 days and have only 1 minor trouble with it (again related to current android version bug)...

I just wish that android phone makers were more "together" into releasing the OS updates faster and preferably at same time, because what is out there now is a mess. some devices got stuck with 1.6, some others are still being updated to 2.2 while others already did to 2.3 and on top of that ICS 4.0 is out already ... it should made more clear which phone can get which maximum version of android OS (some are limited by hardware in getting updates). this is the only mess with android I can really see.

Apple has a tiny slice of the personal computer market, and makes iPods and a couple other things. Apple is also one of the largest market caps, up there with XOM.

GOOGLE doesn't come close. Microsoft doesn't come close.

Do you think that Porsche gets worried when VW announces they increased sales?

Neither does Apple.

Seeing as how VW owns Porsche, they might get worried if Porsche introduced a new model and they don't increase sales.

http://www.toomanycars.info/CarRelationship/Car_Rel-Image2.h...

Check the above link if it works. Very interesting page of auto manufactures of who owns who.

Well, the point was that VW and Porsche are two very different products for different market segments, regardless of ownership or lineage.

Just as there are those that desire the Apple user experience and there are those that feel the need to rebel against what is superior or root for the underdog.

I doubt Apple has any interest in buying Google.

No, but they do want them out of business, That was in fact a known "dream" and goal of Steve Jobs, who allegedly pledged at one point to spend his fortune driving them out of business.

I found this amusing.

http://goo.gl/OELBw

This is what Steve said about Android.

SAN FRANCISCO (The Blaze/AP) — Google can only hope that Steve Jobs‘ final vendetta doesn’t haunt the Internet search leader from his grave.

The depths of Jobs‘ antipathy toward Google leaps out of Walter Isaacson’s authorized biography of Apple’s co-founder. The book goes on sale Monday, less than three weeks after Jobs’ long battle with pancreatic cancer culminated in his Oct. 5 death. The Associated Press obtained a copy Thursday.

The biography drips with Jobs‘ vitriol as he discusses his belief that Google stole from Apple’s iPhone to build many of the features in Google’s Android software for rival phones.

It’s clear that the perceived theft represented an unforgiveable act of betrayal to Jobs, who had been a mentor to Google co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin and had welcomed Google’s CEO at the time, Eric Schmidt, to be on Apple’s board.

Jobs retaliated with a profane manifesto during a 2010 conversation with his chosen biographer. Isaacson wrote that he never saw Jobs angrier in any of their conversations, which covered a wide variety of emotional topics during a two-year period.

After equating Android to “grand theft” of the iPhone, Jobs lobbed a series of grenades that may blow a hole in Google’s image as an innovative company on a crusade to make the world a better place.

“I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple’s $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong,” Jobs told Isaacson. “I‘m going to destroy Android because it’s a stolen product. I’m willing to go to thermonuclear war on this. They are scared to death because they know they are guilty.”

HP has recently decided to open up WebOS as open source. Although it may be weak and small, but it has way less licensing and intellectual property issues (money) than Android. It may give hardware manufacturers another boost to the Linux crowd. Give it time, it may join Android to totally overtake IOS.

As if Mr. Jobs had clean hands when it came to lifting technology.

exactly .... and it seems the biggest hypocrites usually scream loudest when someone "steals their" shared/joint idea and makes something a little different (and maybe better) ...
IMHO Apple stands no chance in defending their products in courts and suing everybody else for making something similar. reason is simple, others made it better and The Rotten Apple is scared it WILL loose its pie.

I think the "Patent Wars" we are observing between all software and hardware companies are going either to destroy them all or leave only the strongest last one standing ... it's ridiculous, because at same time it's setting the whole industry backwards, limiting growth, jobs, sales, development, etc.

I wish the times came back when lawyers had nothing to do with software and internet, because so far it seems that the loudest whining b*tch having strongest army of lawyers keep winning and that is NOT GOOD.

Very bizarre to believe that android is a stolen product. google is taking over our lives, good or bad, I don't think we should stop living. It's "as you were." My employer just spend over a million dollars putting us on gmail at the enterprise level. Simply amazing, google is not just fun and games.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57351164-37/apples-ios-gra...

what the article is comparing is not smartphones the figures don't include tablets (a category which the iPad dominates) and smartphone-like media devices (a category in which the iPod Touch has almost no competition whatsoever).

Now the real numbers & why the Android OS is Eating away at the Apple IOS.

December 2011
A very solid analysis of 42 major countries, that cover 72% of the world's mobile phone subscriptions with countries included from all six inhabited continents.
And here are the numbers for the operating systems:

Android . . . . . . . . . 190 M . . . 31%
Symbian . . . . . . . . 190 M . . . 31%
iOS . . . . . . . . . . . . 114 M . . . 17%
Blackberry . . . . . . . 93 M . . . 14%
Windows Mobile . . 17 M . . . 3%
bada . . . . . . . . . . . 8 M . . . 1%
Windows Phone . . 5 M . . . 1%
Others . . . . . . . . . 33 M . . . 5%
Total . . . . . . . . . . . 649 M

Source: TomiAhonen Consulting December 2011

Wow!

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57355900-37/iphone-4s-inch...

iPhone is good for simple users that are not demanding.

Android is better if you want to take ownership of your phone and customize to your heart's content.

I can do things with my Android that iPhone users can only dream about - like multitasking!

Multitasking? Been doing that on my iPhone for almost 2 years now.

http://goo.gl/BB2Y

And as far as customizing, I can do all of that with Cydia, etc. on my iPhone.

http://www.ijailbreak.com/cydia-tweaks/

iphone (Apple) does not play well with others! That is to say, that they are way too proprietary!!

That's the complaint I have with Sony as well. Far too proprietary for my tastes.

News of their demise is greatly exaggerated.

http://bit.ly/wJ3Nj5

http://bit.ly/yrcma6

yes, for this same reason I avoid Dell & emachines computers like fire and stay away from Sony laptops (and Apple products) ...

nicely done open source (or universal) solutions are always best and that goes for most of good things

most of companies that started making big money on eye candy proprietary products experienced only a short (however intense) growth ... and then decline (all of them at that point use their "reputation" and marketing gimmicks to increase sales) ... then crisis (along with CEO shuffling) ... and an epic fail on the end.

What doesn't the iPhone do that is so proprietary, detrimental, etc?

Please list it all.

Tried upgrading the memory on an Iphone lately?

I like my Ipad but when it comes to upgrading the memory it is near, if not, impossible.

Most other phones you can add more memory to them, the Iphone and Ipad you cannot. This is why I bought the biggest capacity Ipad when I got it.

Other than that this Droid versus Mac issue is a waste. Use whatever you like that works for you.

Owner of the following"
Blackberry 9700, 16GB card, T-Mobile
HTC (Android), 16GB card, Sprint
Ipad 64GB 3G, ATT
Mac Book
XP PC
Vista PC
Windows 7 PC

One of the coolest things I've ever seen was, a Win 7 phone that someone took apart, that had a 16 gig micro SD card (class 10) that held the OS, and other files. It was buried in the phone, however... Great idea though.

It also had the storage SD available that was user accessible.

Upgrading iPhone memory is a non-issue. Choose what memory level you can afford, need, want or plan to grow into, that's all. I've had phones with expansion memory cards and now I have plenty of these cards laying around. I like the Apple iPhone approach to memory.

EXTRA!! EXTRA!!! Read all about it!

http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/01/18/nielsen.says.i...

It is very impressive to see the iPhone market share given the few carriers at this point, and that Android devices and services have been available from many manufacturers and carriers. As more carriers get the iPhone, iPhone market share will continue to expand at the expense of Android.

It's a matter of when, not if.

I find it very entertaining that the title of this thread is "The Android OS Is Eating Away At The Apple IOS" where it is actually the other way around... Apple iOS is devouring Android OS share. lol

Apple iOS is running away with the show!!!

http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/01/18/ios.edges.ahea...

http://goo.gl/Dk0Nt

And more news.

http://goo.gl/7rvLY

The BetaMax of smart phones is doing pretty good.

Reuters reports on new data from research firm Kantar Worldpanel ComTech showing that Apple slipped past Android by the narrowest of margins in fourth quarter U.S. smartphone sales, with Apple's iPhone taking 44.9% of the market and Android taking 44.8%.
"Apple has continued its strong sales run in the U.S., UK and Australia over the Christmas period," Dominic Sunnebo, global consumer insight director at the research firm said.

"Overall, Apple sales are now growing at a faster rate than Android across the nine countries we cover," Sunnebo added.
The results, driven by Apple's blockbuster quarter in the wake of the iPhone 4S launch, saw Apple double its U.S. sales share year-over-year while Android slipped from its 50% share a year ago. Apple yesterday reported sales of 37 million iPhones during the quarter, far exceeding expectations.
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Oh, Apple shares up over $26/share today.

I wonder how well Apple would do if they didn't use sweat shop labour like Foxconn.

If Foxconn were suddenly gone, Apple would be in the same boat as:
Company (HQ Country)
Acer Inc. (Taiwan)
Amazon.com (United States)
ASRock (Taiwan)
Asus (Taiwan)
Barnes & Noble (United States)
Cisco (United States)
Dell (United States)
EVGA Corporation (United States)
Hewlett-Packard (United States)
Intel (United States)
IBM (United States)
Lenovo (China)
Logitech (Switzerland)
Microsoft (United States)
MSI (Taiwan)
Motorola (United States)
Netgear (United States)
Nintendo (Japan)
Nokia (Finland)
Panasonic (Japan)
Philips (Netherlands)
Sharp (Japan)
Sony Ericsson (Japan/Sweden)
Toshiba (Japan)
Vizio (United States)

Some interesting facts here that dispute that Apple outsold Android: http://androidforums.com/lounge/489610-iphone-outselling-all...

Enjoy.

I just could't exert myself to do that response.

Thank you.

Hey juggernaut, do you really think Apple is the only company using off-shore manufacturing? I wonder how all those Droid handset companies would be doing without FoxConn and other similar contract manufacturing facilities.