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Garmin New Car IN-Dash GPS Model Updates

 

I just test drove a new Chrysler 300 with a beautiful in dash GPS.
Must have been at least an 8 incher. It had a display that looks like my 3790T unit.

If I bought the car I started to wonder how one would be able to do custom POI's to the unit and do map upgrades and software upgrades etc. I mean there is no place I saw where you could plug in a micro SDHC or a place to plug a mini USB into it.

I would bet you would have to take it in to the Chrysler service department and have to pay $300 or more to have them pull it and upgrade it if it is even possible. Of course this is completely unacceptable.

I think all the electronics in newer vehicles is going to be a giant can of worms in the near future. Especially the black boxes.

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triliby wrote:

I just test drove a new Chrysler 300 with a beautiful in dash GPS.
Must have been at least an 8 incher. It had a display that looks like my 3790T unit.

If I bought the car I started to wonder how one would be able to do custom POI's to the unit and do map upgrades and software upgrades etc. I mean there is no place I saw where you could plug in a micro SDHC or a place to plug a mini USB into it.

I would bet you would have to take it in to the Chrysler service department and have to pay $300 or more to have them pull it and upgrade it if it is even possible. Of course this is completely unacceptable.

I think all the electronics in newer vehicles is going to be a giant can of worms in the near future. Especially the black boxes.

You could probably get the update on a CD or DVD.

Looks like the update is only $199 from Navteq Direct. (If I selected the correct model) See link below.

http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navt...

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Garmin Nuvi 1490LMT, Nuvi 750, Nuvi 255LT

In dash

In dash navigation systems used to be updated using a CD/DVD but I have no idea how they do it now, especially since manufactures are beginning to NOT put CD players in vehicles anymore. I think it was Ford that just announced that.

I have a new Volkswagen TDI and updates to various system software is done via an SD card placed in the card slot of the in dash radio. It still has a CD slot so that's available also.

You right, I suspect what ever system Chrysler uses it will require a trip to the service department with credit card or checkbook in hand.

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD and TomTom XXL540s

Chrysler Nav System

Here's from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

http://www.chrysler.com/en/owners/navteq/index.html

In-dash vs. nüvi

I have a 2011 Taurus Limited. It has the in-dash navigation system. I vastly prefer my nüvi 760. I've played with the built-in system but it just doesn't compare with my portable unit. There is no method available to add custom POI files either.

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GPSMAP 76CSx - nüvi 760 - nüvi 200 - GPSMAP 78S

Update

It would be nice if they could update the maps continually using a cell signal.

That would be great updating

That would be great updating the maps wirelessly, that is why I always have my garmin with me with updated maps and depend on that device than the unit that is currently installed in my 2011 Toyota

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NickJr Nuvi 3597LMT

Garmin New Car IN-Dash GPS Model Updates

I wonder if it could ever be a bargaining point when buying the vehicle. Say,"I'll buy the car at $600 under cost if you put in writing 10 years worth of updates to the in dash GPS."

I don't think so

triliby wrote:

I wonder if it could ever be a bargaining point when buying the vehicle. Say,"I'll buy the car at $600 under cost if you put in writing 10 years worth of updates to the in dash GPS."

Let's see that happen.

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TheProf wrote:

Here's from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

http://www.chrysler.com/en/owners/navteq/index.html

At $199 an update it looks like your better off buying a new Nuvi every time Navteq offer Chrysler owners a new CD/DVD.

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Nuvi 350, 760, 1695LM, 3790LMT, 2460LMT, 3597LMTHD and TomTom XXL540s

I had one for a while then pulled it out..

I had a Kenwood DNX8210 for a while. I really liked the all-in-one integration of features (GPS, XM, AM, FM, iPod controller, etc).

The problem was that it was a jack of all trades and a master of none. While I could accept the occasional bug each section had it's own unique bugs. Nothing horrible but all added together very annoying:

- The GPS (Garmin) would freeze up from time to time
- XM wouldn't respond from time to time
- The iPod interface would get confused every so often (like 'not authorized' errors)

These were the top issues but there were more. Worse, when you buy aftermarket stereos you'll get maybe one update and that's about it. They've moved onto the next model and you're stuck with whatever firmware they left you with.

With the built-in Garmin GPS, there was I think one firmware update and that was to fix some problem if you were driving in the Middle East. I think the issue is that since it's co-branded neither Garmin nor Kenwood want to pay much attention to it. The current nuvis and even older ones still have occasional updates.

Also, even though it was basically a StreetPilot on the inside and there was an accessible USB port (just like plugging in any other Garmin GPS) they wouldn't let you get lifetime updates to update it. You had to buy a new SD Map every year (about $100).

I'd have lived with that if the rest of the unit functioned well but it didn't. The interface, while having swirling graphical themes was clunky.

I really liked not having cables drape down on my dash but after 2 years of fooling with this unit I finally pulled it out, put the factory stereo back in, and now use an XM SkyDock and a Garmin Nüvi.

I'd be even less inclined to buy a navigation unit from the dealer. Even less support and greater cost.

Something I'd really love to see would be something like an iOS based in dash stereo (not the Pioneer AppRadio - I think it misses the mark). But if they were to release an iOS based stereo you'd have the ease of use of getting around. It'd be pretty instead of clunky, and you could choose from different GPS manufacturers.

Now you could do this with Android, too. It really doesn't matter. I'm just saying that the current market for all-in-ones seems to be rather crappy and limited. They cost a good deal and they come up short.

Auto Black Box GPS

I agree. I got a GPS in my 2006 Dodge Ram 3500. Cost me over $2000.00 including the radio, etc. Found out it was made by Alpine! They want $200.00 a year to keep the maps updated. It is about as user friendly as a rattlesnake with a fang ache! My Garmin 1490T works well but I can't use the suction mount to mount it to the screen of the Alpine or I would. Save your money and buy aftermarket GPS's. Free updates and when it breaks, throw it out and spend $200.00 for a new one.

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Bargaining

triliby wrote:

I wonder if it could ever be a bargaining point when buying the vehicle. Say,"I'll buy the car at $600 under cost if you put in writing 10 years worth of updates to the in dash GPS."

I didn't want the in-dash GPS unit. I have a perfectly good nüvi and a GPSMAP 78S and they both route just fine. I didn't want to spend a bunch of money for a built-in unit that costs a fortune to update, can't accept custom POI files, etc. I negotiated for a discount on the cost of the car as a condition of purchase because I didn't want to spend money on something I didn't want in the first place.

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GPSMAP 76CSx - nüvi 760 - nüvi 200 - GPSMAP 78S

Garmin New Car IN-Dash GPS Model Updates

thrak wrote:
triliby wrote:

I wonder if it could ever be a bargaining point when buying the vehicle. Say,"I'll buy the car at $600 under cost if you put in writing 10 years worth of updates to the in dash GPS."

I didn't want the in-dash GPS unit. I have a perfectly good nüvi and a GPSMAP 78S and they both route just fine. I didn't want to spend a bunch of money for a built-in unit that costs a fortune to update, can't accept custom POI files, etc. I negotiated for a discount on the cost of the car as a condition of purchase because I didn't want to spend money on something I didn't want in the first place.

I tend to agree now. I saw a Prius with a Garmin on the dash and it looked nice. Pretty funny going from a 66 Corvette to a Prius but times change.

Current in-dash models..

Reminds me of what 'smart phones' were before the iPhone.

I hated them. Everyone bought them with the promise that they'd be awesome but within 2 months no one liked the model that they had. The interfaces were clunky. The feature 'sort-of' worked.

I stayed with talk/SMS simple models for the most part because of it. When cameras became popular I eventually updated to one with a camera but the 'extra cool features' were always extra crappy.

I really think if someone built an aftermarket in-dash app with iOS or Android and a really nice user interface that they'd have a winner.

The Pioneer AppRadio is a clunky solution. It uses your iPhone as a host and you have to switch back and forth between the two to get everything done.

It's too bad they didn't just license iOS and maybe make it a non 3G (or 3G) version of the iPad/iPod Touch.

Would never buy an in-dash

I would never buy a vehicle with in-dash GPS.

As already discussed, aftermarket is way cheaper and more user friendly and cheaper to update maps.

Just this morning I got an email from Newegg:

Garmin 1350 $134.99. Use the Promo Code EMCYTZT686 and it's $109.99. Doesn't have Lifetime maps or Traffic, but that's a good price.

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Metricman Nuvi 660, GTM-20 Traffic Receiver Nuvi 3597 GTM-60 Traffic Receiver Williamsburg, VA

Theft & Looks

The biggest problems with after market units are theft and cosmetic integration.

Factory radio's are rarely stolen, regardless how fancy. And they usually integrate beautifully into the interior.

(FWIW: I'm a fan of aftermarket units over factory ones, but I've been the victim of theft because of them too)

Mercedes is a perfect example... a navigation head unit from Mercedes Benz can cost $5000 just for the head unit itself... most are made by Alpine (even though they say Becker on them). You can get a KILLER unit for $1000, and probably less....... but no one is breaking windows on a Benz to grab a $5000 factory head unit.

In Dash Units

The one thing I do liek about the In Dash units is the way they handle Bluetooth.

The ease of function and quality of the audio is way better than the portable units.

But I'm not willing to spend $2K just for quality Bluetooth.

In dash GPS

I have a new Chrysler 300 with a Garmin in dash GPS. There is a place for extras, but there is not a thing in there. How do I add extras?

it's probably in the car manual

davedeb wrote:

I have a new Chrysler 300 with a Garmin in dash GPS. There is a place for extras, but there is not a thing in there. How do I add extras?

But I would think you run POI Loader to create a GPI file on a flash drive which the car would then read.

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I'm a bit ignorant

I'm a bit ignorant when it comes to that. Looks like I will have to study a little bit. Thanks

P.S. the car manual, well I have seen better

try the dealer

davedeb wrote:

I'm a bit ignorant when it comes to that. Looks like I will have to study a little bit. Thanks

P.S. the car manual, well I have seen better

Most dealers now offer training on how to work the electronics in new cars. They're getting pretty sophisticated and the manuals aren't always the best.

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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy, 35th U.S. president

In dash GPS

My Hyundai Genesis is coming up to be 1 yr old in 2 months. The update is "ONLY" $99, but has to be installed by the dealer. I wonder how much the dealer is going to get me for that.

I wish I could have been able to get the tech package without the GPS. The unit does not even have TTS capability. I have to give it credit for booting up & running much faster than my Nuvi 765T though.

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-Garmin Nuvi 760 & 765T-

probably

jjc715 wrote:

My Hyundai Genesis ... I have to give it credit for booting up & running much faster than my Nuvi 765T though.

Probably because it doesn't "turn off" but goes into sleep mode where the electronics and possibly the GPS receiver is still receiving signals.

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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy, 35th U.S. president

With my 2011 Acura MDX...

all updates are done via the in-dash CD player.

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RKF (Bethesda, MD) Garmin Nuvi 660, 360 & Street Pilot

Or, USB

salleentn wrote:

It would be nice if they could update the maps continually using a cell signal.

Or, just give me a USB port that I can hook my WIFI attached laptop to to update it...

Its not in the manual, but here's how to do POIs

Box Car wrote:
davedeb wrote:

I have a new Chrysler 300 with a Garmin in dash GPS. There is a place for extras, but there is not a thing in there. How do I add extras?

But I would think you run POI Loader to create a GPI file on a flash drive which the car would then read.

I'm arriving Late to this thread but I wanted to post a link about setting Custom POIs on the Chrysler 300.

I've been writing myself notes on how to do this and
am sharing them here. I've gleaned this from the Chrysler300 forum and my own experimentation.

http://tinyurl.com/kw5tsug
See also: http://www.poi-factory.com/node/35832

I hope it is helpful. let me know if you have better info.

Tie-ins with navigation unit

thrak wrote:
triliby wrote:

I wonder if it could ever be a bargaining point when buying the vehicle. Say,"I'll buy the car at $600 under cost if you put in writing 10 years worth of updates to the in dash GPS."

I didn't want the in-dash GPS unit. I have a perfectly good nüvi and a GPSMAP 78S and they both route just fine. I didn't want to spend a bunch of money for a built-in unit that costs a fortune to update, can't accept custom POI files, etc. I negotiated for a discount on the cost of the car as a condition of purchase because I didn't want to spend money on something I didn't want in the first place.

the problem is the tie-in with the navigation units. usually the other options that I would want require that I get the package with the navigation unit.

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