Proximity Alerts (how do I eliminate prompt when loading?)

 

It appears that a number of POI files prompt me regarding "Proximity Alerts" when I am loading them.

I would like to NOT be asked that question for most of these files as that would allow me to load/reload much, much faster.

How can I turn off that switch in the POI file itself so that it does not pause to ask me by defaulting to on?

I load a number of POI files that I have only a cursory need for, and frankly the hassle is beginning to make me think I'd live easier not loading those that default to alerting me.

After the Red Light files there is precious little I need to be alerted to every time I get close to it. smile

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POI alerts

jombl2 wrote:

It appears that a number of POI files prompt me regarding "Proximity Alerts" when I am loading them.

I would like to NOT be asked that question for most of these files as that would allow me to load/reload much, much faster.

How can I turn off that switch in the POI file itself so that it does not pause to ask me by defaulting to on?

I load a number of POI files that I have only a cursory need for, and frankly the hassle is beginning to make me think I'd live easier not loading those that default to alerting me.

After the Red Light files there is precious little I need to be alerted to every time I get close to it. smile

These must be CSV files that contain keywords in the file name. Eliminate the keyword and you will eliminate the alert. Do a search on this site for a list of the keywords.

give us a few names

as jackj180 is suggesting, there is something going on that is eluding us.

Please give us a few file names (on your PC that you feed to POILoader) that are causing such a problem.

assuming

You have mostly CSV files you may also be loading them using Manual. If this is the case, you can also create two folders, one for the files you do not want alerts for and those you do. POILoader 2.6.1 will load each folder separately as a GPI file having the same default name as the folder. This allows you to load the nonalert files using express mode and the alerted files using manual mode.

Of course, the easiest way is to convert the files having alerts to GPX using Extra_POI_Editor. Use the Field Replace function (CTL-R) and select Proximity. Key ib the distance desired and save as GPX. The entire folder can then be loaded Express.

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These are the ones that kick out on me

These are the ones that kick out on me with preset alerts already switched on:

Factory_Outlets_Combined_r2.gpx
Kentucky_Lake_Fish_Attractors.csv
Lakes and Ponds of CT (v2.1).csv
Truck Stop Guide v6.22.gpx
101 Tastiest Places to Chowdown.csv
Best 50 Pizza Rachel Ray.gpx
Esquires 59 Best Breakfast Places in America.csv
historic_ships_us_can_2_2_5.gpx
101 Unique WV Dining.gpx
cheesesteaks 3.gpx
gluten free 2.csv
$40 a Day.csv

This file, and the red light/speed camera files are fine with the alerts on:

Highestpeaks of each of the 50 states.gpx

Then dozen of others that load express are fine as well.

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Numbers

Just wondering about the purpose of the numbers in the file names?

Are you having 'speed alert' problems using them?

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Take the NUMBERS out of the file names.

Problem solved.

all have numbers except

all have numbers except Kentucky_Lake_Fish_Attractors.csv.

remove all numbers.

try again

Take out the numbers

take out the numbers

try again

The file names are as they were found here.

ghayman wrote:

Just wondering about the purpose of the numbers in the file names?

Are you having 'speed alert' problems using them?

The file names are as they were found here, and downloaded. The problem with the "alerts" is that I don't want them for those files.

I'm going to rename the files and reload them - thank you all.

I just won't be able to try that immediately, nor will I be reporting the result of the rename until Sunday.

Time to use the GPS smile

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RE: The file names are as they were found here.

That doesn't mean they are always ready for install with that name.

Numbers in file names set speed alerts automatically. Extra periods in a name can cause other problems. Sometimes you just have to take the time to edit the file before submitting it to POILoader.

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That does not seem to always be the case.

I load about 270 separate POI files, and many of them have numbers in the title, odd characters or the dash as found in the redlight/speed camera files - but do not set off alerts.

Here are some examples:

10026 Combined US Campgrounds by rivopom.csv
2010 KS WIHA.csv
RestAreasCombined(Ver.AC).csv
EMS-USA.csv

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RE: That does not seem to always be the case.

from the help file in POILoader:

Speed Information

Speed information can be included in the file name or in the names of individual POIs within the file.

POI Loader determines speed information based on the following information, listed from highest to lowest priority:

Speed information included in the name of the individual Custom POI. For example, a POI named "SpeedZone@30" will have an alert speed of 30 regardless of the speed information specified in Manual mode or in the file name.

Speed information entered in Manual mode.

Speed information included in the file name. POI Loader interprets any numbers in the file name as speed information.

Hmmm, I thought I was a

Hmmm, I thought I was a 'heavy user' with 23 gpx/csv files and bmp and wav files for each, but you far surpass me.

Unless you have a specific need for a traffic alert file
(e.g. Redlight-Cameras@59.csv), ensure ALL gpx or csv files do not have numbers. Obviously the big numbers in your filenames are ignored but the smaller numbers are interpreted as speeds. I learned the hard way on my way to creating tourguide files.

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jgermann wrote:

from the help file in POILoader:

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Speed information included in the file name. POI Loader interprets any numbers in the file name as speed information.

It IS written like that but it is not entirely correct. It is only correct for whole numbers from 1 to 124 (1 to 199 metric). Higher numbers are not considered in automatic speed alert determinations that the Help File is discussing (Garmin doesn't tell you that).

I have writen several articles as how you can use that fact to your advantage in creating file names.

For example you could establish a file name: SpecialPlacesD5000.csv and use the number as a reminder when processing with POI Loader to tell you to set the distance alert to 5000 ft.

You can also use it in a .gpi file creation so that when looking at your nuvi's menu you will automatically know the alert distance set.

Gary Hayman
Garmin Tricks & Tips
http://bit.ly/garmin_gps_tricks

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@ Gary re numbers in file name

ghayman wrote:

It IS written like that but it is not entirely correct. It is only correct for whole numbers from 1 to 124 (1 to 199 metric). Higher numbers are not considered in automatic speed alert determinations that the Help File is discussing (Garmin doesn't tell you that).

Quite so - I have read your article and in fact use "D5000" in my twentyfour hour pharamacy POI files.

I should have added that info to my response.

Remove numbers in File name

I've removed the numbers and the files reloaded without stopping to prompt for an alert.

Then I started to work on those fails that fail to load because of an error on line 1.

In the future I'll try to rewrite the other file names that make no sense, and then perhaps I'll begin to cobble together the disparate 1 and 2kb files into larger and more useful 12kb files. Those would be the ones that are separated into things like parks on the left side of town and parks on the right side of town. smile

I think we are still quite clearly in the early days of POI files as far as ease of use. The Apple Corporation could make a killing in this space just by adding a little conciseness, clarity and conformity. smile

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That clears one issue...

jombl2 wrote:

I've removed the numbers and the files reloaded without stopping to prompt for an alert.

Then I started to work on those fails that fail to load because of an error on line 1.

The Line 1 problem is some authors put column headers in their CSV files and, as you have noted, POILoader barfs when the line doesn't meet their requirements.

But as to your comment about applying some polish a la Apple it will probably never happen as the only requirement for building a CSV file is that it have a minimum of 3 fields and a maximum of 4 each separated by a comma. Most authors/maintainers are aware the file can't have column headers, but then there are always new files being submitted by people that don't have a complete understanding of the software limitations.

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Perhaps Miss Poi

Box Car wrote:

Most authors/maintainers are aware the file can't have column headers, but then there are always new files being submitted by people that don't have a complete understanding of the software limitations.

Perhaps Miss Poi can be sure that new files are run through some basic checks.

are you volunteering?

jgermann wrote:
Box Car wrote:

Most authors/maintainers are aware the file can't have column headers, but then there are always new files being submitted by people that don't have a complete understanding of the software limitations.

Perhaps Miss Poi can be sure that new files are run through some basic checks.

I'm certain Miss POI has a lot on her plate right now and would love to have someone volunteer to help her clear out the various queues.

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@ Box Car - How could we help

Box Car wrote:

I'm certain Miss POI has a lot on her plate right now and would love to have someone volunteer to help her clear out the various queues.

I wonder how we could be of help. If we knew what POI files were new or updated, I suppose we could download them and try POILoader.

Any ideas?

send her a note

send her a note. Files are received into queues for the moderator to review, she would either have to grant moderator status or send you the file from the queue as a mail attachment.

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Just joking here

jombl2 wrote:

These are the ones that kick out on me with preset alerts already switched on:

Factory_Outlets_Combined_r2.gpx
Kentucky_Lake_Fish_Attractors.csv
Lakes and Ponds of CT (v2.1).csv
Truck Stop Guide v6.22.gpx
101 Tastiest Places to Chowdown.csv
Best 50 Pizza Rachel Ray.gpx
Esquires 59 Best Breakfast Places in America.csv
historic_ships_us_can_2_2_5.gpx
101 Unique WV Dining.gpx
cheesesteaks 3.gpx
gluten free 2.csv
$40 a Day.csv

This file, and the red light/speed camera files are fine with the alerts on:

Highestpeaks of each of the 50 states.gpx

Then dozen of others that load express are fine as well.

jombl2 ... glad you solved your loading problem.

And I hope you don't mind me poking a little fun here ... but I got a chuckle out of your set of POI's.

50 Best Pizza, Cheesesteaks and Gluten Free files all in the same set.

Got a feeling you are torn between two loves here.

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