Garmin 1300T stolen this morning

 

I am sleeping at 5:30 AM. I hear a car alarm going off, I finally wake up enough to wonder if it's mine.

I get up and walk outside and I can see it's not my car. Another car nearby has the interior lights on. I hear a door slam. I went in and went back to bed.

A few minutes later I can hear some neighbors talking about my make/model to someone. I get up again and go outside. They are on the phone with 911, and my side window is broken. Glass all over, my Garmin Nuvi 1300T is gone.

They scared the guys away, apparently. The Garmin unit is all they took. Other valuables are there plainly visible in the car are not taken. They must have run away.

So, I have to get a new window today which I did ($125), and now I can consider what kind of GPS with traffic I want.

I wasn't too thrilled with the Nuvi 1300T. I think it's a base model and lacks some features I have had on other units. Maybe a higher end unit would be better?

Can anyone tell me what features some higher models have that might be better than the 1300T?

One thing about the 1300T that I didn't like was that it didn't have auto power off, which all my previous Magellan units had.

I have to say I have sworn off Magellan, the last unit of theirs I tried I found pretty grim. Navigon software, I think. Magellan was bought out last year by Mitac Digital, the maker of those cheap Mio GPS units. You can tell it too.

So what's slick on the newer Garmins?

Does the speech recognition actually work?
I see 2350, 2360, 2370, 2450, so many models.

Any recommendations? I don't recommend the 1300T.

I like the Garmin Nuvi

I like the Garmin Nuvi 1490T. It seem to have most of the bells and whistles-and I think you can get it at Costco for around $150. Sorry to hear about the theft.

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76 csx & Nuvi 1490t

Beware of the 1490

philiplupe wrote:

I like the Garmin Nuvi 1490T. It seem to have most of the bells and whistles-and I think you can get it at Costco for around $150.

The 1490 is indeed a nice GPSR, and has most of the features anyone could want. That's exactly why I bought one.

The problem is that it only has 2GB of internal memory.
That is not enough memory to hold the latest map updates. You can gain more memory by deleting unnecessary files, or installing an additional SD card.

If you have the knowledge to delete the correct files, or you know the procedure for installing some maps on the internal memory, and other maps on the SD card, then the 1490 might work for you.

The 1490 has one additional problem being discussed in this thread http://www.poi-factory.com/node/33360

The problem is that the Garmin map installer will only install a small Junction View file on the 1490. This file is only 13% of the full Junction view file. So if you don't care about seeing Junction views, then again, the 1490 might work for you.

There are ways to get around all these problems eventually, if you have the knowledge. I returned mine because I don't want to go through the hassle required to make it work on the very first update.

2450LM

I bought the 2450LM because it had so many of the features that my Nuvi 750 had plus lifetime maps.

Go to garmin.com and select "Products" on the top menu and a drop down will appear, select "On the Road", then scroll down the page and select "Automotive".

This takes you to a page that you can click what you want and it tells you what models have what you want.
After you do that it is a good idea to asked people on this site how much space the unit you want has. Some only have 2gb. The 2450 has 4gb and I think the 2460 has 8gb but not sure.

My 2450 shuts down when we turn the key off. My car socket is not powered when the key is off so I don't know if it does this when there is a powered socket.

Do love my 2450LM

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

power down

I think the only way your unit would know to power down automatically is if the cig socket goes dead when the car is shut off.

2460

The 2460LMT is pretty cool. It has Voice Commands and they work really well. My only complaint is that you can't answer phone calls through voice commands.

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@Steevo - if you registered your Nuvi with Garmin then you might want to contact them and inform them that your unit was stolen.

Power Socket

rvrrat wrote:

I think the only way your unit would know to power down automatically is if the cig socket goes dead when the car is shut off.

Yes, that's the way my 660 works. I have one vehicle that leaves power to the socket when I stop the engine & remove the key - the 660 continues to run. My other vehicle removes power from the socket when the engine is shut off and my 660 displays a message that it will shut off in xx seconds or I can press a button to keep it running on it's own internal battery.

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Tampa, FL - Garmin nüvi 660 (Software Ver 4.90), 2019.30 CN NA NT maps | Magellan Meridian Gold

Another GPS Bites the Dust

Sorry to hear about your GPS, but it just shows that you can't and shouldn't leave anything in a vehicle no matter where you park it.

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johnm405 660 & MSS&T

Especially...

johnm405 wrote:

Sorry to hear about your GPS, but it just shows that you can't and shouldn't leave anything in a vehicle no matter where you park it.

...if it can be seen from outside the car. I keep mine in a storage compartment in the car when not actually in use.

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Tuckahoe Mike - Nuvi 3490LMT, Nuvi 260W, iPhone X, Mazda MX-5 Nav

bad advice

Tuckahoemike wrote:
johnm405 wrote:

Sorry to hear about your GPS, but it just shows that you can't and shouldn't leave anything in a vehicle no matter where you park it.

...if it can be seen from outside the car. I keep mine in a storage compartment in the car when not actually in use.

I've seen many more reports here about GPS stolen after being "cleverly hidden" in the console or under the seat than I have about the GPS being stolen after taken out of the car.

Actually I haven't seen any about the GPS being stolen if it is taken out of the car, although I can imagine that it could rarely happen.

Motel rooms

Frovingslosh writes

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Actually I haven't seen any about the GPS being stolen if it is taken out of the car, although I can imagine that it could rarely happen.

There have been several reports of GPS stolen from motel rooms, presumably by the cleaning maids.
But yeah, probably rare.

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1490LMT 1450LMT 295w

There's really nothing you can do.

Tuckahoemike wrote:
johnm405 wrote:

Sorry to hear about your GPS, but it just shows that you can't and shouldn't leave anything in a vehicle no matter where you park it.

...if it can be seen from outside the car. I keep mine in a storage compartment in the car when not actually in use.

My son's was stolen from the console, they smashed the window and went through the car. Nothing visible.

I really doubt they got more than $20 for the GPS as stolen property, but the window cost half a day and $125 to get replaced. There's nothing you can do. They might have broken that same window if there had been nothing of value in the car.

Gang kids, I think. That's what the cop said.

Locks

As the old saying goes locks are to keep and honest man honest. If they are out looking they will do what they want not matter what you do. Best thing is to keep everything in the house and set there with and alarm system a gun, and phone to call the cops.

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johnm405 660 & MSS&T

Looking at models.....

I've been looking at Garmin.com this morning.

There's a 2360lm and 2370ZLm, the difference seems to be the 2370 has traffic trends.

That was one thing the darned 1300T did. It always wanted to route me by a route that though it was abut 1 or 2 miles less distance always had *lots* more traffic, and I never went that way. So the darned thing kept saying to turn right. But on the right was the bad freeway with bad southbound traffic on the morning.

It appears the 2360LM is about $219 everywhere. The 2370LM is about $35 more everywhere. But I have just begun to look.

The difference between those and the higher end 3790T is the more expensive model 3790 has a capacitance touchscreen like mobile smartphones now, whereas my Nuvi 1300T was a dull looking and hard to use resistive touchscreen. That thing was a little infuriating. It missed clicks.

I just don't know.

There is also getting a new smartphone and just using google maps, which does work well as long as you have enough CPU and network speed. It works well on the Iphone 4 and on phones like the android powered Tmobile G2.

I have a Tmobile Mytouch 3G which has google maps but just doesn't have quite enough processor to use it for anything real. Frustrating. Sometimes the screen takes 10 seconds to refresh.

I do think that's the future and the idea of a dedicated gps unit will be pretty unthinkable in another few years.

1490 for $110

On ebay factory refurb 1490t units are about $110. with free shipping.

I guess that's a pretty good deal. one year Garmin warranty. I may go check one out at a retail store. It certainly has more features than my too basic 1300t had. And maybe with the bigger screen the buttons will be bigger for my big fingers. Heh.

2360 vs 2370

Steevo wrote:

... There's a 2360lm and 2370ZLm, the difference seems to be the 2370 has traffic trends...

I think both the 2360 and 2370 units have the "TrafficTrends" feature. The main difference is that the 2370 has both North America and Europe maps, while the 2360 has NA only. There may be additional internal memory on the 2370 to handle both map sets, but I am not sure of that. I also am not sure about your "Z" designation. Is it a typo? I have not heard of a 2370ZLm.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

Stolen GPS

How did we go from talking about stolen gps to the difference between the 2360 2370. I think it is postes in the wrong thread.

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johnm405 660 & MSS&T

The thread was never about the stolen gps,

The thread was never about the stolen gps, it was always about recommendations for a replacement.

Correct thread.

It seems Steevo is looking at these two units to replace the stolen one. I quoted him from this thread.

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Alan - Android Auto, DriveLuxe 51LMT-S, DriveLuxe 50LMTHD, Nuvi 3597LMTHD, Oregon 550T, Nuvi 855, Nuvi 755T, Lowrance Endura Sierra, Bosch Nyon

I think you're right, europe maps.

I think you're right, 2370 has europe maps. Too many models.

Garmin is crazy, their features are too granular. Prices $10 apart. There's just no need for that.

The Z was my typo, of course.

Correct thread.

Your right my mistake was reading about stolen and what to do nad not to do, forgot the bottom of the orginal post. smile

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johnm405 660 & MSS&T

I looked online at 1490T and the connected 1690. Comments?

I looked online at the Garmin 5" 1490T, and it seems you can get refurbished units on Amazon for about $103.

There is also a connected unit model 1690, with a two way google local connection for two years (with ads) for about $100, also refurbished on Amazon. It has traffic and a two way data connection. Gee whiz.

I don't really feel the need for a bigger screen like the 1490T, but the reviews on the 1690 make it seem a little flawed. The data connection seems to make the screen weird. Stuff like that.

But the connected idea is compelling. You can look up google local, for instance. Mobile internet!

Can anyone comment?

Got my stolen Nuvi back today.

Well, I can't really believe it.
The police called, they actually recovered my stolen Nuvi 1300T.

After a year and a half, and the guys are in custody.
I got the unit back today.

Now, that's real police work. Unbelievable.

It's completely as a result of my having the serial number, which of course was in my online garmin.com account. I just printed out the page showing the unit serial number and my name back then, and again today.

What are the chances? Gee whiz.

Amazing- Thanks For Sharing

That is really great news.
I'm wondering how the Police got your phone number and why they would suspect the unit was stolen.
It's possible he had lots of stolen property and they investigated to add on more charges.

Or maybe the thief left some of your information (stupid) on the Nuvi and they followed up on it. In any event it was good police work to unite you with your Nuvi once again.

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Nuvi 2460LMT 2 Units

TRACKS!!!

Man, check out the tracks and tell us what they show!

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KD5XB in DM84

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That is a great ending! I just read the thread, not realizing that it started in 2011, until seeing this month's posts.

Do tell us what you find when you download the tracks to MapSource or BaseCamp! In fact, I wouldn't do anything else before you do that, because new GPS recordings will overwrite past data.

So Great

Glad you got your unit back. Did you buy a new one? It is always good to have a back up.

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Mary, Nuvi 2450, Garmin Viago, Honda Navigation, Nuvi 750 (gave to son)

Good to hear

Was there any damage to the unit? Did you get your traffic cable / accessories back as well (assuming they were taken)?

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Matt

I had the serial number.

They knew it was mine because unlike most crime victims I did have the serial number of the unit, right there in my garmin.com account. The cop said most people never have that information.

It has the traffic receiver but the arm and suction cup are not there. I got another one from Garmin, no problem.

They had used it but home and all my favorites are still there. I had replaced the unit, with a 1690 which is both better and worse.

The cop said they were "doing something" when they were arrested. The GPS unit was in their possession at the time.

Good police work, huh?

Downloading tracks.

telecomdigest2 wrote:

That is a great ending! I just read the thread, not realizing that it started in 2011, until seeing this month's posts.

Do tell us what you find when you download the tracks to MapSource or BaseCamp! In fact, I wouldn't do anything else before you do that, because new GPS recordings will overwrite past data.

I have never downloaded tracks.

What's BaseCamp?
Is there software that can download and tell where the unit has been? That sounds so interesting.

Like a fly on the wall!

In fact, if there is detailed data as to these criminals travels the detective might be interested.

That's be something if that was used to convict them of other crimes. Time stamped and all.

I downloaded and installed Garmin BaseCamp.
Damn. You can see everything they did from the time they broke my window. They live about 2 blocks from me in an apartment areal.

They didn't use it very often. But there is a lot of data.

I gotta figure out how to download all that. I'll give it to the detective.

Heh Hilarious.

Great

I hope the detective can use that evidence.

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1490LMT 1450LMT 295w

I need better maps.

I got the data but in basecamp the maps are not detailed enough.

I'd like to go to the police department and do a show and tell for the detectives about what kind of data is available from these units.

It's quite interesting, the data in the unit from the say it was stolen, you can see where they went when they left here.

Does anyone know how to get the tracks out an in detail, like on google maps? Clearly if they left here and went to their home, that would be kind of damning.

Fascinating story! This is

just a crazy thought...

I don't know if your automotive-category Garmin unit is compatible with Garmin Connect http://connect.garmin.com/ or not... Garmin Connect is a cloud-based upload to view and analyze runs/rides from Garmin's line of fitness and outdoor devices. Once logged on, you can set a profile to be private -- not viewable to anyone other than you. (It accepts the same log in that I use for all my Garmin accounts, forums, etc.)

***IMPORTANT: I'm not sure if I would experiment and risk losing the tracks in question that are presently stored on your recovered device. I don't even know if it's possible to go in and save/backup your 1300T tracks first or not?***

Anyway, it might be worth asking Garmin support if your device could upload to GC. Once uploaded, map views are "zoom-able" in Google, Bing, satellite, and street mapping. I'm almost positive that IF you could somehow get those tracks into GC, you could actually get within a house or two of the perp's destination location. Another bugaboo might be if the thieves drove all over the country racking up thousands of miles of tracking that would just show up on GC as a huge plate of spaghetti?!

I'm sure some of the GPS brain surgeons here will be able to give you a much better and easier methodology, but it might be something maybe to make a few inquiries about if nothing better shows up?!

But whatever, keep us posted! Good luck. Regards.

Google Earth

Steevo wrote:

Does anyone know how to get the tracks out an in detail, like on google maps?

Don't know about Google Maps, but Google Earth has long had that feature. Just hook up your GPS receiver to the computer by USB, It is under Tools ->GPS ->Import in my version (which is likely out of date so I am not certain it didn't move but it should be easy enough to find).

Once you have the tracks in you can zoom in on each point and get lots of good information, including exact time and speed.

That would be worth asking Garmin.

Garmin Connect.

I have to actually take the data out. Chain of custody, ya know.

That would be worth asking Garmin.

Base Camp

It turns out I was wrong, the maps in basecamp come right out of the unit, so they are the detail that the unit has.