Canadian Speed Limits

 

With the latest map update, my Garmin is now giving me Canadian speed limits on some freeways. Very happy to see it.

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Postal Search Works Fine in USA

t923347 wrote:

Excuse me, we all have Postal Code search, but I'm not sure what good it does you in the US since you use ZipCode which I don't believe are supported. That's what I was referring to.

Your experience does not match mine. Postal Code (i.e. "zip code") search works just fine here in the USA with my Nuvi 855. I usually find city name search more useful though.

Lots of canadians here>

Lots of canadians here>

Canadian Speed Limits

Nuvi 1350LMT
Downloaded latest map from Garmin and some speed limits are present. Last weekend we drove from Winnipeg, East on the TransCanada Highway (#1 in Manitoba, #17 in Ontario) to Kenora. No speed limits showing on Manitoba#1 but 90kmh limit showing for Ontario#17.

And yes, lots of Canucks here...

Speed limits in Canada?

If I had not read that discussion here by well-meaning people, I would have a hard time believing they have such thing as speed limit. Those driving south from BC area are the poster-persons for my observation. If I see any vehicle with a BC license place driving within speed limits here, I tend to think something was wrong with the vehicle. Just my observation; no intent to malign anyone or inflame passions here.

bak276; i have to agree with

bak276; i have to agree with you. Drivers from BC are one of the worst in Canada. Doesn't care of work zones or changing lanes on solid white and doing all sort of things ONE SHOULD NOT. If few officer stands on HWY 1 (work zone) entering Vancouver; I am sure they can make enough money for Police Budget for the whole year in one week.

Could they

Could they make any money writing speeding tickets there? I usually find that work zone more of a parking lot than a race track. grin

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Hit and Miss

I drove from Montreal to Ottawa this weekend and as soon as I crossed the border into Ontario I got the speed limit indicator. This lasted untill a few kilometers outside Ottawa when it promptly dissapeared. On the return journey it was the same, once past the outskirts of Ottawa the display came back on until we hit the border again. Also noticed that the junction views in Ottawa have been reduced in number.

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bpaine wrote:

I drove from Montreal to Ottawa this weekend and as soon as I crossed the border into Ontario

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QEW

Drove up to Toronto from NYC yesterday, crossing at Niagara Falls. After I got to around St. Catherines on the QEW, the speed limit icon showed up with 100kph. I noticed the estimated time of arrival was more accurate now.

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Canadian Speed Limits

I just received a Garmin nuvi 3790LMT for my Birthday the other day. Having owned 2 TomToms previously, there are some things TomTom has that I miss already. 1 being that the speed limits for the most part are on TomTom already. The other is being able to make changes to the map, if there is a change to the name of the road, or speed limit you can fix it. My original TomTom is still running an XL-S, however I bought a Go730, which died a couple weeks after updating my maps on it (about $80) TomTom support wouldn't do anything about it, so I switched to Garmin. I would love to see Garmin add a few things to their updates in the future

QEW Act II

I just upgraded to 2012.30 and will be driving up north at the end of the week. I'll check to see if there is any additional coverage in Canada, especially the QEW between St. Catherines and Niagara Falls.

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This upgrade is...

very helpful.

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just curious

On my new 2460LMT when there is no speed limit showing on a particular road or street it allows me to enter one, it then gets added to a db file in the Nüvi, does anyone knows if this file getes sent back to Garmin when doing upgrades and downloads or is that only for my unit to use in the future when traveling the same road?

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The only

The only way it would get sent back, if at all, is if you'd agreed to allow Garmin to obtain data from your device when it's connected to your PC/Internet.

You have to opt in to that as it's OFF by default. Can't recall where you opt in, but it maybe on the registration page in your myGarmin account.

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t923347 wrote:

The only way it would get sent back, if at all, is if you'd agreed to allow Garmin to obtain data from your device when it's connected to your PC/Internet.

You have to opt in to that as it's OFF by default. Can't recall where you opt in, but it maybe on the registration page in your myGarmin account.

I guess the same applies to the star ratings of POI, or a delete of a POI right in the unit.

I found the page to opt in or out, just finished changing it so they can collect my data and share it with others.

https://my.garmin.com/mygarmin/dashboard/dashboardPrefs.htm

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My Nuvi 1350 is now

displaying speed limits on the Transcanada Highway and #17 in Northwest Ontario - nice.

had speed data since previous update

I live in the Greater Montreal Area and have had speed data on most major highways since the previous update. (The one before NA 2012.30). With the large JCV file loaded in my SD card I get loads of Junction Views in the area also.

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May not be accurate

While I have found the speed limits are very good, I have just found one incorrect.

Usually the limit on the GPS changes precisely at the speed sign. However, I found the GPS was telling me the limit through Banff National Park is 70kph while it's really 90.

This is the first time I've found a wrong indicator.

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Yep

gpsomnia wrote:

Does anyone from BC area has seen the speed limit indicator on their GPS unit??

It shows a buck-ten limit on the 5A from Kamloops to Merritt...

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A buck?

Juggernaut wrote:

It shows a buck-ten limit on the 5A from Kamloops to Merritt...

We don't have that no more...it's called a Loonie.
So that'll be a Loonie and 10 laugh out loud

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Speed limits.

My unit shows speed limits on hwy 17 in North Eastern Ontario since update 2012.20.

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Latest Test

Driving with 2012.30 up the QEW from Niagara Falls, there is no change in the speed limit indicator. From 420 in Niagara Falls to 405 no speed limit is displayed. At the 405 junction on the QEW, a 100kph speed limit suddenly appears on the Nuvi display. From then on, I have speed limit display all the way to Mississauga. I imagine when I drive home next weekend, it will again disappear at the 405 junction southbound.

Unfortunately, I have no idea how to report speed limit information to Garmin or Navteq. Navteq's Map Reporter does not have a speed limit reporting feature and Garmin's map site has nothing either. There are few areas I need to correct back home, as well as this QEW limit, and I have no idea how to do it.

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Make a 'Speed' POI, right? wink

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Speed limits on nuvi 750

JGLabelle wrote:

Like "Ottawa Tony", I was on the 417 in Ottawa today with my 750 and the new version of the maps: no speed limits. Is there a problem with the 750s? Are speed limits in Canada only with "newer" Nuvis??? When I travel in the US, I do get speed limits.

I just updated my nuvi 750 and I get the speed limits on it in and around Calgary

maybe as I stated in previous posting

Aardvark wrote:

Unfortunately, I have no idea how to report speed limit information to Garmin or Navteq. Navteq's Map Reporter does not have a speed limit reporting feature and Garmin's map site has nothing either. There are few areas I need to correct back home, as well as this QEW limit, and I have no idea how to do it.

Perhaps is the same as in my 2460LMT, whenever I'm on a road or street without speed limit or that it has the wrong limit posted in the GPSr I can touch the speed limit sign and make the correction, it saves that information to a file in the Garmin directory for your future use and if you have your Garmin "My Dashboard Preference" set to "sharing your device usage data with us." whenever you connect to “My Dashboard” to check for or get updates the information your unit has collected gets transmitted back to Garmin.

The same is possible with internal POIs you have flagged to be edited “Report Error” or “Edit Phone Number” or added/changed the 5 star rating.

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As I Suspected

Heading down to the Rainbow Bridge on the QEW, the speed limit indicator disappeared as I passed to 405 ramp. For some reason, there is no speed limit information recorded on the QEW south of the 405 even though it is 100kph there like the rest of the road.

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Avoiding stop signs & gravel roads

I usually know the speed limit already so I just want speed limit info so that my Garmin nuvi 265W stops mapping dumb routes that go through residential streets (hence tons of stop signs) only because it's the shortest distance even though I have the GPS set to map the fastest route.

I once mapped from Winnipeg to New Bothwell in part because I could not find my paper map. It took me down a bunch of gravel roads because it was the shortest distance & the GPS did not take speed limits or road types into consideration!

And $90 for updated maps for life seems excessive to me. What if I upgrade to a newer GPS? Then do I pay $90 again for lifetime updates?

And as I continue to research getting Canadian maps with speed limits, I see posts from some saying Tom Tom GPSes have speed limits on Canadian maps. But I'm reluctant to buy a Tom Tom GPS after my Dad had quite a lot of trouble with it - including when Tom Tom support told him to download & install the latest update & when he tried, it didn't work either! Turns out even though Tom Tom told him it was possible to update via his Windows 7 PC, it did not work. We tried updating from a Windows XP laptop that I still had - it worked fine. At that point I swore I would never buy Tom Tom.

So what does one do in Canada???

And how are the latest map updates in Canada? Any regional street coverage? What about other provinces west of Ontario other than Alberta? Those seem to be the only 2 provinces with any real coverage based on what I've read thus far.

Shortest

Shortest distance is shortest distance.

I'm not sure why you would expect speed limits and road types to factor into a route calculation where you asked for shortest distance. On the other hand if you'd asked for a route using Faster Time I suspect you would not have been sent down gravel roads. Also other "avoidance" you have set can affect the route calculated. Have you turned on the Unpaved Road avoidance which would normally keep you off gravel roads unless there was no other alternative to get you from A to B.

I don't believe your current Nuvi supports displaying speed limits, but I could be wrong. Canadian speed limit data increases with each map update. I have seen data for parts of Vancouver and Montreal so it's not just in Ontario and Alberta.

If you buy a lifetime update for your current GPS you would have to buy another one if you purchased a new unit. On the other hand if you purchased a newer model you wouldn't pay $90 for lifetime maps as the difference between the price for a 3450, as an example, between the model with lifetime maps and the one without is only $40 list.

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My observation of speed limits

From what I've noticed, it seems to be the multi-lane roads that have the speed limits on them first, so far. For instance, the 5A from Merritt to Kamloops shows 110 KPH when I'm on it.

I'm sure this will improve as time goes on.

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I noticed

I noticed speed limits on Highway 1 westbound from Abbotsford the other day but they disappeared as we got closer to Vancouver question

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In Ontario

In Ontario it seems that only the 400 series highways (400, 401, 417,416, etc) display the speed limit on my Garmin 885T and 2460.

Automotive GPSRs have been calculating fairly accurate ETA's for 20 years prior to the "speed limit" sign appearing on the display. I don't think there is any doubt that the Garmin receivers already have the speed limit for every road contained in the internal map.

The fact that your Garmin does not display the "speed limit" does not indicate that it isn't aware of the speed limit.

As far as I am concerned, this is just another useless feature to help Garmin sell more units. Very similar to offering lifetime map updates on models that don't have enough internal memory for the very first update.

It was set to Faster Time

t923347 wrote:

Shortest distance is shortest distance.

I'm not sure why you would expect speed limits and road types to factor into a route calculation where you asked for shortest distance. On the other hand if you'd asked for a route using Faster Time I suspect you would not have been sent down gravel roads.

As mentioned, I had my GPS set to faster time when it took me down the gravel roads. I even double-checked after arriving.

t923347 wrote:

Also other "avoidance" you have set can affect the route calculated. Have you turned on the Unpaved Road avoidance which would normally keep you off gravel roads unless there was no other alternative to get you from A to B.

There were paved alternatives. I'm sure that I went through the GPS inside & out & never saw an Unpaved Road option, but I will check again just in case. Could it have been added in a firmware update? I did upgrade the firmware a few weeks ago.

t923347 wrote:

I don't believe your current Nuvi supports displaying speed limits, but I could be wrong. Canadian speed limit data increases with each map update. I have seen data for parts of Vancouver and Montreal so it's not just in Ontario and Alberta.

It does support speed limits. As soon as I cross the border into North Dakota, the speed limit appears, & disappears as I cross back into Manitoba.

We're going to do a west coast road trip this year or next so I'm hoping speed limits will be much more prominent should I decide to update the maps or just get a new GPS. I think that I used my 1-time free map update that came with the GPS already - otherwise I would wait right until just before whenever we do our west coast trip.

t923347 wrote:

If you buy a lifetime update for your current GPS you would have to buy another one if you purchased a new unit. On the other hand if you purchased a newer model you wouldn't pay $90 for lifetime maps as the difference between the price for a 3450, as an example, between the model with lifetime maps and the one without is only $40 list.

Good to know - thanks.

Mo money mo anything?

RickLeb wrote:

Automotive GPSRs have been calculating fairly accurate ETA's for 20 years prior to the "speed limit" sign appearing on the display. I don't think there is any doubt that the Garmin receivers already have the speed limit for every road contained in the internal map.

The fact that your Garmin does not display the "speed limit" does not indicate that it isn't aware of the speed limit.

I'm skeptical about that. I know on the rare occasion that I map to a place within Winnipeg, it takes seemingly odd routes to destinations (on the portions of the trip that I am already familiar with). Of course it's possible that the Garmin has generic speed limits for different types of streets for internal route calculations only.

But I've come across many occasions where in Winnipeg going a block or 2 the "wrong" way to get to a much faster route is not selected by the GPS in favour of a shorter route featuring blocks of stop signs & traffic lights at a slower speed limit before finally reaching the faster road. And then in say Minneapolis-St. Paul the GPS almost always directs us to a freeway no matter where we map to.

Obviously there are times when I must use my own discretion & ignore the suggested route, but when in a city that I don't know at all, it's nice if it takes as many factors as possible into consideration.

RickLeb wrote:

As far as I am concerned, this is just another useless feature to help Garmin sell more units. Very similar to offering lifetime map updates on models that don't have enough internal memory for the very first update.

That, or to upsell perhaps? It's always seemed strange that GPSes range from $100 to like $400+. I know it's no different when buying a car or computer - pay more, get more/better. But I've not yet understood what more you can get on just a GPS for double or triple the money besides a bigger screen. I'll have to do more research I guess.

faster time or shorter distance

The routing algorithm in your Garmin doesn't really see much difference between the two. As the type of road evidently doesn't factor into their choices, they will route you over secondary and surface streets rather than freeways and interstates because the distance may be a couple of feet shorter, so therefore it must be faster. You may see a difference between shortest and fastest, but the routing for fastest has always been hosed. You need to double check the route before telling it to GO!

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no difference.

Box Car wrote:

The routing algorithm in your Garmin doesn't really see much difference between the two. As the type of road evidently doesn't factor into their choices, they will route you over secondary and surface streets rather than freeways and interstates because the distance may be a couple of feet shorter, so therefore it must be faster. You may see a difference between shortest and fastest, but the routing for fastest has always been hosed. You need to double check the route before telling it to GO!

I agree, it really doesn't change over the two options.

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Box Car wrote:

[The Garmin in question] will route you over secondary and surface streets rather than freeways and interstates because the distance may be a couple of feet shorter, so therefore it must be faster.

Wow, that's very different from they way my TomTom works. It LOVES freeways and will often recommend a considerably longer journey when "fastest route" is selected and there's a freeway in the vicinity.

In fact, I usually compare the results of "fastest route" with "avoid freeways" and often find that the latter is more direct and only a couple of minutes longer than the "fastest route". In that case I'll usually take the secondary highways because they're so much more interesting than driving the "Interstates".

I Think

bluejaywpg wrote:

I've come across many occasions where in Winnipeg going a block or 2 the "wrong" way to get to a much faster route is not selected by the GPS in favour of a shorter route featuring blocks of stop signs & traffic lights at a slower speed limit before finally reaching the faster road.

I think your Garmin knows the speed limits of the roads, and determines it's routes based solely on the speed limits. However it will not be aware that there is a stop sign at every single intersection. It would also not be aware of how long it takes for traffic lights to cycle, and your model is not aware of traffic conditions.

The result of this, is when the Garmin calculates a fairly short route, it assumes that the 50 KPH route through city streets is faster than going out of your way a few blocks to take 100 KPH highways.

When calculating a long road trip I think you will see the calculations become better. At the very least the 5-10 minutes lost getting on to the highway becomes insignificant by the end of a long trip.

I got

bluejaywpg wrote:

There were paved alternatives. I'm sure that I went through the GPS inside & out & never saw an Unpaved Road option, but I will check again just in case. Could it have been added in a firmware update? I did upgrade the firmware a few weeks ago.

I got this off my 760 but it should be the same on your Nuvi.

Look in Tools - Settings - Navigation - Avoidances - Press the Down Arrow - check Unpaved Roads - OK

There are also lots of other things listed under Avoidances that you can select. Each one selected will then be avoided in route calculation if possible.

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Too late and too little for

Too late and too little for us Canadian. After years of wait, only main highway have speed limit which is useless. Secondary roads are much more important for speed limit.

I don`t see it as useless,

I don`t see it as useless, but yes limits are more effective on city streets..noticed some U.S. cities have it we travel into, but no up here yet..this would be nice!

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Well

Weird that they can do that, but they can't pin point where I live. They still show my place almost a 1/4 mile up the street.

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More Info

Speed2 wrote:

Weird that they can do that, but they can't pin point where I live. They still show my place almost a 1/4 mile up the street.

I have seen that occur on streets that have a large variation in property sizes. For example apartment or office buildings mixed with normal single family homes within the same block. Sometimes parkland can throw off the location as well.

Normally the corner homes are shown in the correct location, but as you move down the block, the positioning error continues to increase.

Does this description match your situation by chance?

yep BUT

No houses on the corner. Bin here for 25 years.
The address they show doesn't exist, mine doesn't exist.
All in All I don't exist...hmm wonder if they could find me if I don't pay my taxes laugh out loud

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Nuvi 660

Yes, My 660 shows my Postal Code as being a few houses down the street Different house number.
Maybe that is a good thing !!

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2014.10 has speed limits on major Toronto roads

Went downtown for the first time since updating maps to 2014.10. Noticed that Lakeshore Rd. and Bloor St. had speed limits in the map data. Using simulation mode when I got home, it seems that now most major Toronto roads have them - Lakeshore, Bloor, Lawrence, Eglington, Dundas, College, Yonge, Bathurst, Avenue Rd., Bayview, Islington...

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Works Great So Far

I just updated my map to the new 2014.10 and so far the Speed Limits have been working great in Ottawa and Montreal. Hopefully it works when I get home to Alberta.

I have noticed speed limits

I have noticed speed limits in Hamilton, Milton areas as well. Now Toronto's major streets are also showing speed limits as WAAsup mentioned.
Still missing lots of areas in Ontario. Hoping o see more areas covered in the future updates..

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they do

you will find speed limits work well in Alberta on most major roads

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Montreal

works great in Montreal area too smile

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